(Universal Basic Income) Freedom Dividend of $1K/Month
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Been talking with a couple Alaskan friends about this, and they both got really turned off by the idea of a UBI after seeing how the Alaska Permanent Fund is being weaponized in this manner. Suffice to say, they're not getting Yang's vote in the primary.
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The best ubi is called nationalization. Everything else is just a prelude to inflation or a substitute for a more targeted welfare state. If you're not going to nationalize major industries a negative tax is a far better approach to the problems posed by automation.
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How hard were you laughing when you typed that?Mickey wrote:The best ubi is called nationalization. Everything else is just a prelude to inflation or a substitute for a more targeted welfare state. If you're not going to nationalize major industries a negative tax is a far better approach to the problems posed by automation.
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I don't think the problem of automation is a laughing matterBi_3 wrote:How hard were you laughing when you typed that?Mickey wrote:The best ubi is called nationalization. Everything else is just a prelude to inflation or a substitute for a more targeted welfare state. If you're not going to nationalize major industries a negative tax is a far better approach to the problems posed by automation.
VinylGuy wrote:its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
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It most certainly is not. But the idea that furthering government ownership of industry is the solution is farcical.Mickey wrote:I don't think the problem of automation is a laughing matterBi_3 wrote:How hard were you laughing when you typed that?Mickey wrote:The best ubi is called nationalization. Everything else is just a prelude to inflation or a substitute for a more targeted welfare state. If you're not going to nationalize major industries a negative tax is a far better approach to the problems posed by automation.
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Oh well in that case I have surely been proven wrong.Bi_3 wrote:It most certainly is not. But the idea that furthering government ownership of industry is the solution is farcical.Mickey wrote:I don't think the problem of automation is a laughing matterBi_3 wrote:How hard were you laughing when you typed that?Mickey wrote:The best ubi is called nationalization. Everything else is just a prelude to inflation or a substitute for a more targeted welfare state. If you're not going to nationalize major industries a negative tax is a far better approach to the problems posed by automation.
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Tulsi said on the JRE she is looking into UBI. She's very interested in implementing it, also, but working out the details, she said.
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There is no solution there. Like MMT, it's an academic pipe dream.tree_ wrote:Tulsi said on the JRE she is looking into UBI. She's very interested in implementing it, also, but working out the details, she said.
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I'm no economist but from the research I've done, it looks good. It needs to be done right, like any other thing, in order to succeed.Bi_3 wrote:There is no solution there. Like MMT, it's an academic pipe dream.tree_ wrote:Tulsi said on the JRE she is looking into UBI. She's very interested in implementing it, also, but working out the details, she said.
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The *real issue* is how soon we can turn our teachers into Youtube algorithms. Peak dumb-guy shit.The main inflation we currently experience is in sectors where automation has not been applied due to government regulation or inapplicability – primarily housing, education, and healthcare. The real issue isn’t Universal Basic Income, it’s whether technology and automation will be allowed to reduce prices in different sectors.
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Machine learning could be used to develop and improve IEPs or customize coursework for students with learning disabilities or other disadvantages. There is nothing dumb-guy about that.Mickey wrote:The *real issue* is how soon we can turn our teachers into Youtube algorithms. Peak dumb-guy shit.The main inflation we currently experience is in sectors where automation has not been applied due to government regulation or inapplicability – primarily housing, education, and healthcare. The real issue isn’t Universal Basic Income, it’s whether technology and automation will be allowed to reduce prices in different sectors.
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Yeah unfortunately that doesn't touch on what he said at all but good try. You can try to dress up Yang because the issue he identifies is a pressing one (you might even be tempted to say that he articulates a crisis point in capitalism itself), but his way of broaching it and the way he positions automation within a broader cultural and economic landscape is no less boneheaded than Democrats' just-go-back-to-school-dad! plans.Bi_3 wrote:Machine learning could be used to develop and improve IEPs or customize coursework for students with learning disabilities or other disadvantages. There is nothing dumb-guy about that.Mickey wrote:The *real issue* is how soon we can turn our teachers into Youtube algorithms. Peak dumb-guy shit.The main inflation we currently experience is in sectors where automation has not been applied due to government regulation or inapplicability – primarily housing, education, and healthcare. The real issue isn’t Universal Basic Income, it’s whether technology and automation will be allowed to reduce prices in different sectors.
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I don't think you know what AI is capable of.Mickey wrote:Yeah unfortunately that doesn't touch on what he said at all but good try. You can try to dress up Yang because the issue he identifies is a pressing one (you might even be tempted to say that he articulates a crisis point in capitalism itself), but his way of broaching it and the way he positions automation within a broader cultural and economic landscape is no less boneheaded than Democrats' just-go-back-to-school-dad! plans.Bi_3 wrote:Machine learning could be used to develop and improve IEPs or customize coursework for students with learning disabilities or other disadvantages. There is nothing dumb-guy about that.Mickey wrote:The *real issue* is how soon we can turn our teachers into Youtube algorithms. Peak dumb-guy shit.The main inflation we currently experience is in sectors where automation has not been applied due to government regulation or inapplicability – primarily housing, education, and healthcare. The real issue isn’t Universal Basic Income, it’s whether technology and automation will be allowed to reduce prices in different sectors.
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I definitely think it's capable of eliminating your make-work position, if that's what you're driving at.
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And every other job.Mickey wrote:I definitely think it's capable of eliminating your make-work position, if that's what you're driving at.
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Imagine a world where no one needs to post.tree_ wrote:And every other job.Mickey wrote:I definitely think it's capable of eliminating your make-work position, if that's what you're driving at.
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No one needs to post as it is. What an odd thing to say.Mickey wrote:Imagine a world where no one needs to post.tree_ wrote:And every other job.Mickey wrote:I definitely think it's capable of eliminating your make-work position, if that's what you're driving at.
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Desire is defined by its condition of never achieving its object. Ceaselessly we are borne back into the fray (the forum)tree_ wrote:No one needs to post as it is. What an odd thing to say.Mickey wrote:Imagine a world where no one needs to post.tree_ wrote:And every other job.Mickey wrote:I definitely think it's capable of eliminating your make-work position, if that's what you're driving at.
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"It's about the climb." - Miley CyrusMickey wrote:Desire is defined by its condition of never achieving its object. Ceaselessly we are borne back into the fray (the forum)tree_ wrote:No one needs to post as it is. What an odd thing to say.Mickey wrote:Imagine a world where no one needs to post.tree_ wrote:And every other job.Mickey wrote:I definitely think it's capable of eliminating your make-work position, if that's what you're driving at.