Couldn't read the full article as I didn't want to subscribe, but I'm bothered by people going after someone's legacy when they're not around to defend themselvesBi_3 wrote:Yes, but watching/laughing at a rape is differentRangi Guy wrote:Isn't it well known that he was having multiple affairs? Don't think it takes away at all from all the good he did. The man was human and had a weakness
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He was a philanderer, we knew that.
It doesn't change what he did and the change he brought about.
It doesn't change what he did and the change he brought about.
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Nobody's perfect.
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I don't know the particulars (I'm firewalled from reading the full piece), but I do agree with Mickey that putting trust in FBI reports when Hoover expressly weaponized the agency against MLK is going out on a bit of a limb, to put it lightly (though I'm not saying the writer's doing that).
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The author did win a Pulitzer writing about Dr. King so I’m not sure he’d be one to attempt to destroy the guys legacy with with such charges. Apparently the audio is classified for another 8 years so it’ll just beat album 11 out of the gate. God knows what the Kennedys did.digster wrote:I don't know the particulars (I'm firewalled from reading the full piece), but I do agree with Mickey that putting trust in FBI reports when Hoover expressly weaponized the agency against MLK is going out on a bit of a limb, to put it lightly (though I'm not saying the writer's doing that).
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History is revised every 5 years or so.
Hoover dressed up in women's clothes, Lincoln liked sleeping with other dudes, MLK fucked a lot of women who weren't his wife and LBJ was a fucking redneck.
It doesn't stop the social and policy changes they made.
Hoover dressed up in women's clothes, Lincoln liked sleeping with other dudes, MLK fucked a lot of women who weren't his wife and LBJ was a fucking redneck.
It doesn't stop the social and policy changes they made.
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Yeah, definitely, that makes sense; I think I'm less skeptical of the author than the source material.Bi_3 wrote:The author did win a Pulitzer writing about Dr. King so I’m not sure he’d be one to attempt to destroy the guys legacy with with such charges. Apparently the audio is classified for another 8 years so it’ll just beat album 11 out of the gate. God knows what the Kennedys did.digster wrote:I don't know the particulars (I'm firewalled from reading the full piece), but I do agree with Mickey that putting trust in FBI reports when Hoover expressly weaponized the agency against MLK is going out on a bit of a limb, to put it lightly (though I'm not saying the writer's doing that).
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I don't know if I think the author is attempting to do anything of the sort--he's reporting what he's found in the FBI files (he may have any such motive for doing so). My point is simply that what he's reporting--that the FBI claims to have a tape wherein MLK passively watches a rape--should be viewed with suspicion: it's well within the realm of possibility that the tape is doctored, fake, or that it doesn't exist at all.digster wrote:Yeah, definitely, that makes sense; I think I'm less skeptical of the author than the source material.Bi_3 wrote:The author did win a Pulitzer writing about Dr. King so I’m not sure he’d be one to attempt to destroy the guys legacy with with such charges. Apparently the audio is classified for another 8 years so it’ll just beat album 11 out of the gate. God knows what the Kennedys did.digster wrote:I don't know the particulars (I'm firewalled from reading the full piece), but I do agree with Mickey that putting trust in FBI reports when Hoover expressly weaponized the agency against MLK is going out on a bit of a limb, to put it lightly (though I'm not saying the writer's doing that).
It's also pretty widely known that MLK was a philanderer. Abetting a rape would certainly be a much more disturbing allegation and would absolutely necessitate complicating historical narratives about him, but the other shit--that he slept around, that he said "pussy eater" or whatever--isn't news.
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I agree everyone should be highly skeptical given Hoover’s disgusting treatment of MLK.Mickey wrote:I don't know if I think the author is attempting to do anything of the sort--he's reporting what he's found in the FBI files (he may have any such motive for doing so). My point is simply that what he's reporting--that the FBI claims to have a tape wherein MLK passively watches a rape--should be viewed with suspicion: it's well within the realm of possibility that the tape is doctored, fake, or that it doesn't exist at all.digster wrote:Yeah, definitely, that makes sense; I think I'm less skeptical of the author than the source material.Bi_3 wrote:The author did win a Pulitzer writing about Dr. King so I’m not sure he’d be one to attempt to destroy the guys legacy with with such charges. Apparently the audio is classified for another 8 years so it’ll just beat album 11 out of the gate. God knows what the Kennedys did.digster wrote:I don't know the particulars (I'm firewalled from reading the full piece), but I do agree with Mickey that putting trust in FBI reports when Hoover expressly weaponized the agency against MLK is going out on a bit of a limb, to put it lightly (though I'm not saying the writer's doing that).
It's also pretty widely known that MLK was a philanderer. Abetting a rape would certainly be a much more disturbing allegation and would absolutely necessitate complicating historical narratives about him, but the other shit--that he slept around, that he said "pussy eater" or whatever--isn't news.
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More Max Landis stuff
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theplatypus wrote:More Max Landis stuff
Absolutely no difficulty in believeing any allegation against him.
He’s a vile stain
Calibrate your enthusiasm
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You don’t like him because he called Rey a Mary Sue.dimejinky99 wrote:theplatypus wrote:More Max Landis stuff
Absolutely no difficulty in believeing any allegation against him.
He’s a vile stain
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Nothing to do with that at all. Seriously.wease wrote:You don’t like him because he called Rey a Mary Sue.dimejinky99 wrote:theplatypus wrote:More Max Landis stuff
Absolutely no difficulty in believeing any allegation against him.
He’s a vile stain
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Yikes, that Landis article
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I have no idea who Max Landis is other than that his dad is John Landis.
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I mean, dudes with power are always scumbags.
I think we like to pretend "creative types" are somehow better than that, but they are actually worse.
I think we like to pretend "creative types" are somehow better than that, but they are actually worse.
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You think Epstein became a billionaire by secretly filming very powerful people having sex with teenagers?
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Corey Feldman was right all along.
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He’s incredibly intelligent and worked with ultra high net worth investors. He made his money hiding theirs. But I would bet good money he’s got a ton of tapes and that’s why charges never stuck.tragabigzanda wrote:I've also wondered thisBurtReynolds wrote:You think Epstein became a billionaire by secretly filming very powerful people having sex with teenagers?
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