tragabigzanda wrote:Are there direct lyrical connection between that book and the SY song?
Yep. Here's a character description of the main character, from Wiki
Aged 32 during the events of Pattern Recognition, Cayce lives in New York City. Though named by her parents after Edgar Cayce, she pronounces her given name "Case".[4] She is a freelance marketing consultant, a coolhunter with an unusual intuitive sensitivity for branding,[5] manifested primarily in her physical aversion to particular logos and corporate mascots.
dimejinky99 wrote:I could destroy any ai chatbot you put in front of me. Easily.
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
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Not the first time SY looked to William Gibson for inspiration, either. There’s one or two references on Daydream Nation as well. Most obviously, The Sprawl, a direct title reference his Sprawl trilogy, beginning with the seminal novel, Neuromancer.
dimejinky99 wrote:I could destroy any ai chatbot you put in front of me. Easily.
Mickey wrote:My absolute favorite sci-fi factlet is that in the 1970s and 80s the American Marxist literary critic Fredric Jameson wrote extensively about science-fiction through his theory on the political efficacy of narrative. One of his most used examples was Philip K. Dick. At some point Dick got word of this and wrote a letter the CIA asking them to get this communist fucker to stop writing about him.
Weird that Jameson was mentioned right before I started talking about William Gibson in this thread. I dove a little bit into the wikipedia page for Pattern Recognition and came across these quotes from him.
The novel's language is viewed as rife with labeling and product placements.[28] Postmodern theorist Fredric Jameson calls it "a kind of hyped-up name-dropping ... [where] an encyclopaedic familiarity with the fashions ... [creates] class status as a matter of knowing the score rather than of having money and power".[29] He also calls it "postmodern nominalism"[29] in that the names express the new and fashionable.[29]
VinylGuy wrote:its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
