We haven't seen what he's capable of yet. He might never be great, but we'll see. It's just odd that his rookie stats are so similar to Jets and Bills rookie QBs last year, yet Rosen was on the worst team in the league with the worst O-Line, yet people are so excited and hopeful for those QBs but not Rosen. He has the same potential as they do.durdencommatyler wrote:Rosen is terrible. I hope the Dolphins cut him. The team deserves better.
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I have seen it. He's awful. He doesn't belong in the NFL. I like the Dolphins and want them to succeed. They need to ditch Rosen.
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If you're referring to his rookie season with the Cardinals, it's an unfair evaluation. That team was a mess. Give him an actual chance to prove himself then judge him. Also, as I just mentioned, he played pretty much as well as Darnold and Allen. Not that bad, especially considering the circumstances.durdencommatyler wrote:I have seen it. He's awful. He doesn't belong in the NFL. I like the Dolphins and want them to succeed. They need to ditch Rosen.
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I'm not just referring to that. I was anti-Rosen coming into the draft. He's terrible.tree_ wrote:If you're referring to his rookie season with the Cardinals, it's an unfair evaluation. That team was a mess. Give him an actual chance to prove himself then judge him. Also, as I just mentioned, he played pretty much as well as Darnold and Allen. Not that bad, especially considering the circumstances.durdencommatyler wrote:I have seen it. He's awful. He doesn't belong in the NFL. I like the Dolphins and want them to succeed. They need to ditch Rosen.
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Do you just hate his personality or what? How did you come to this opinion of the man?durdencommatyler wrote:I'm not just referring to that. I was anti-Rosen coming into the draft. He's terrible.tree_ wrote:If you're referring to his rookie season with the Cardinals, it's an unfair evaluation. That team was a mess. Give him an actual chance to prove himself then judge him. Also, as I just mentioned, he played pretty much as well as Darnold and Allen. Not that bad, especially considering the circumstances.durdencommatyler wrote:I have seen it. He's awful. He doesn't belong in the NFL. I like the Dolphins and want them to succeed. They need to ditch Rosen.
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I watched him play in college. I do happen to think he's a punk, but that has nothing to do with this conversation. He's not a good QB.tree_ wrote:Do you just hate his personality or what? How did you come to this opinion of the man?durdencommatyler wrote:I'm not just referring to that. I was anti-Rosen coming into the draft. He's terrible.tree_ wrote:If you're referring to his rookie season with the Cardinals, it's an unfair evaluation. That team was a mess. Give him an actual chance to prove himself then judge him. Also, as I just mentioned, he played pretty much as well as Darnold and Allen. Not that bad, especially considering the circumstances.durdencommatyler wrote:I have seen it. He's awful. He doesn't belong in the NFL. I like the Dolphins and want them to succeed. They need to ditch Rosen.
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Hmm... I never really watched him play, other than highlights, so I'll take your word for it. I just hope the Dolphins start him at least several games so all of us fans can see who he is. The good news is, if he fails miserably, they will be able to draft a QB early next year and keep Rosen as a back up for next to nothing for a few years. Then maybe he can develop into at least a trade-able commodity.durdencommatyler wrote:I watched him play in college. I do happen to think he's a punk, but that has nothing to do with this conversation. He's not a good QB.tree_ wrote:Do you just hate his personality or what? How did you come to this opinion of the man?durdencommatyler wrote:I'm not just referring to that. I was anti-Rosen coming into the draft. He's terrible.tree_ wrote:If you're referring to his rookie season with the Cardinals, it's an unfair evaluation. That team was a mess. Give him an actual chance to prove himself then judge him. Also, as I just mentioned, he played pretty much as well as Darnold and Allen. Not that bad, especially considering the circumstances.durdencommatyler wrote:I have seen it. He's awful. He doesn't belong in the NFL. I like the Dolphins and want them to succeed. They need to ditch Rosen.
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Look, I hope I'm wrong. Like I said, I like the Dolphins and I hope they succeed. I just don't think, based on what I've seen, that Rosen is the future. And I know Fitzmagic is a stop-gap at best. They need a real franchise guy to take them to the next level. I don't believe that's Rosen. But hey I'm wrong a lot. I hope he does well for you guys. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.tree_ wrote:Hmm... I never really watched him play, other than highlights, so I'll take your word for it. I just hope the Dolphins start him at least several games so all of us fans can see who he is. The good news is, if he fails miserably, they will be able to draft a QB early next year and keep Rosen as a back up for next to nothing for a few years. Then maybe he can develop into at least a trade-able commodity.durdencommatyler wrote:I watched him play in college. I do happen to think he's a punk, but that has nothing to do with this conversation. He's not a good QB.tree_ wrote:Do you just hate his personality or what? How did you come to this opinion of the man?durdencommatyler wrote:I'm not just referring to that. I was anti-Rosen coming into the draft. He's terrible.tree_ wrote:If you're referring to his rookie season with the Cardinals, it's an unfair evaluation. That team was a mess. Give him an actual chance to prove himself then judge him. Also, as I just mentioned, he played pretty much as well as Darnold and Allen. Not that bad, especially considering the circumstances.durdencommatyler wrote:I have seen it. He's awful. He doesn't belong in the NFL. I like the Dolphins and want them to succeed. They need to ditch Rosen.
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Thanks. I'm happy with either scenario. I just hope if he's not the guy, the team gets few wins as possible so they can get their QB of the future next year. I don't want a mediocre season then get a mediocre QB or have to trade a bunch of picks.durdencommatyler wrote:Look, I hope I'm wrong. Like I said, I like the Dolphins and I hope they succeed. I just don't think, based on what I've seen, that Rosen is the future. And I know Fitzmagic is a stop-gap at best. They need a real franchise guy to take them to the next level. I don't believe that's Rosen. But hey I'm wrong a lot. I hope he does well for you guys. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.tree_ wrote:Hmm... I never really watched him play, other than highlights, so I'll take your word for it. I just hope the Dolphins start him at least several games so all of us fans can see who he is. The good news is, if he fails miserably, they will be able to draft a QB early next year and keep Rosen as a back up for next to nothing for a few years. Then maybe he can develop into at least a trade-able commodity.durdencommatyler wrote:I watched him play in college. I do happen to think he's a punk, but that has nothing to do with this conversation. He's not a good QB.tree_ wrote:Do you just hate his personality or what? How did you come to this opinion of the man?durdencommatyler wrote:I'm not just referring to that. I was anti-Rosen coming into the draft. He's terrible.tree_ wrote:If you're referring to his rookie season with the Cardinals, it's an unfair evaluation. That team was a mess. Give him an actual chance to prove himself then judge him. Also, as I just mentioned, he played pretty much as well as Darnold and Allen. Not that bad, especially considering the circumstances.durdencommatyler wrote:I have seen it. He's awful. He doesn't belong in the NFL. I like the Dolphins and want them to succeed. They need to ditch Rosen.
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I haven't watched a lot of Rosen play, but when he got demolished by the Broncos last season he looked completely lost, and I don't think all of that can be blamed on the terrible O-line he had. Joey would have also watched him play against the Chiefs, and his stat line isn't much better from that game, either.
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Yeah man. I totally get that. That's the Chiefs way! That was my life for decades. I feel you, homie.tree_ wrote:Thanks. I'm happy with either scenario. I just hope if he's not the guy, the team gets few wins as possible so they can get their QB of the future next year. I don't want a mediocre season then get a mediocre QB or have to trade a bunch of picks.durdencommatyler wrote:Look, I hope I'm wrong. Like I said, I like the Dolphins and I hope they succeed. I just don't think, based on what I've seen, that Rosen is the future. And I know Fitzmagic is a stop-gap at best. They need a real franchise guy to take them to the next level. I don't believe that's Rosen. But hey I'm wrong a lot. I hope he does well for you guys. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.tree_ wrote:Hmm... I never really watched him play, other than highlights, so I'll take your word for it. I just hope the Dolphins start him at least several games so all of us fans can see who he is. The good news is, if he fails miserably, they will be able to draft a QB early next year and keep Rosen as a back up for next to nothing for a few years. Then maybe he can develop into at least a trade-able commodity.durdencommatyler wrote:I watched him play in college. I do happen to think he's a punk, but that has nothing to do with this conversation. He's not a good QB.tree_ wrote:Do you just hate his personality or what? How did you come to this opinion of the man?durdencommatyler wrote:I'm not just referring to that. I was anti-Rosen coming into the draft. He's terrible.tree_ wrote:If you're referring to his rookie season with the Cardinals, it's an unfair evaluation. That team was a mess. Give him an actual chance to prove himself then judge him. Also, as I just mentioned, he played pretty much as well as Darnold and Allen. Not that bad, especially considering the circumstances.durdencommatyler wrote:I have seen it. He's awful. He doesn't belong in the NFL. I like the Dolphins and want them to succeed. They need to ditch Rosen.
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Another excuse being thrown around is the offensive coordinator being fired. He was often lost, no doubt about it, but it was a rookie season in a chaotic environment. Let us just see if he can progress at all this year. I just saw a quote today that he admits he's just now figuring out how to identify the mike and make certain pre-snap adjustments. Did they not teach him that last year? People say he's smart, so we'll see if he can figure it out under this coaching staff and play more comfortably.Green Habit wrote:I haven't watched a lot of Rosen play, but when he got demolished by the Broncos last season he looked completely lost, and I don't think all of that can be blamed on the terrible O-line he had. Joey would have also watched him play against the Chiefs, and his stat line isn't much better from that game, either.
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I'm happy for you that you found your QB. If he gets injured I'll be devastated for you.durdencommatyler wrote:Yeah man. I totally get that. That's the Chiefs way! That was my life for decades. I feel you, homie.tree_ wrote:Thanks. I'm happy with either scenario. I just hope if he's not the guy, the team gets few wins as possible so they can get their QB of the future next year. I don't want a mediocre season then get a mediocre QB or have to trade a bunch of picks.durdencommatyler wrote:Look, I hope I'm wrong. Like I said, I like the Dolphins and I hope they succeed. I just don't think, based on what I've seen, that Rosen is the future. And I know Fitzmagic is a stop-gap at best. They need a real franchise guy to take them to the next level. I don't believe that's Rosen. But hey I'm wrong a lot. I hope he does well for you guys. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.tree_ wrote:Hmm... I never really watched him play, other than highlights, so I'll take your word for it. I just hope the Dolphins start him at least several games so all of us fans can see who he is. The good news is, if he fails miserably, they will be able to draft a QB early next year and keep Rosen as a back up for next to nothing for a few years. Then maybe he can develop into at least a trade-able commodity.durdencommatyler wrote:I watched him play in college. I do happen to think he's a punk, but that has nothing to do with this conversation. He's not a good QB.tree_ wrote:Do you just hate his personality or what? How did you come to this opinion of the man?durdencommatyler wrote:I'm not just referring to that. I was anti-Rosen coming into the draft. He's terrible.tree_ wrote:If you're referring to his rookie season with the Cardinals, it's an unfair evaluation. That team was a mess. Give him an actual chance to prove himself then judge him. Also, as I just mentioned, he played pretty much as well as Darnold and Allen. Not that bad, especially considering the circumstances.durdencommatyler wrote:I have seen it. He's awful. He doesn't belong in the NFL. I like the Dolphins and want them to succeed. They need to ditch Rosen.
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Ah, Mike McCoy, who got fired immediately after that aforementioned blowout by Denver, the same team that fired him midseason the year before.tree_ wrote:Another excuse being thrown around is the offensive coordinator being fired.
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I appreciate that, man. Thank you for saying that. Obviously, I feel the same.tree_ wrote:I'm happy for you that you found your QB. If he gets injured I'll be devastated for you.durdencommatyler wrote:Yeah man. I totally get that. That's the Chiefs way! That was my life for decades. I feel you, homie.tree_ wrote:Thanks. I'm happy with either scenario. I just hope if he's not the guy, the team gets few wins as possible so they can get their QB of the future next year. I don't want a mediocre season then get a mediocre QB or have to trade a bunch of picks.durdencommatyler wrote:Look, I hope I'm wrong. Like I said, I like the Dolphins and I hope they succeed. I just don't think, based on what I've seen, that Rosen is the future. And I know Fitzmagic is a stop-gap at best. They need a real franchise guy to take them to the next level. I don't believe that's Rosen. But hey I'm wrong a lot. I hope he does well for you guys. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.tree_ wrote:Hmm... I never really watched him play, other than highlights, so I'll take your word for it. I just hope the Dolphins start him at least several games so all of us fans can see who he is. The good news is, if he fails miserably, they will be able to draft a QB early next year and keep Rosen as a back up for next to nothing for a few years. Then maybe he can develop into at least a trade-able commodity.durdencommatyler wrote:I watched him play in college. I do happen to think he's a punk, but that has nothing to do with this conversation. He's not a good QB.tree_ wrote:Do you just hate his personality or what? How did you come to this opinion of the man?durdencommatyler wrote:I'm not just referring to that. I was anti-Rosen coming into the draft. He's terrible.tree_ wrote:If you're referring to his rookie season with the Cardinals, it's an unfair evaluation. That team was a mess. Give him an actual chance to prove himself then judge him. Also, as I just mentioned, he played pretty much as well as Darnold and Allen. Not that bad, especially considering the circumstances.durdencommatyler wrote:I have seen it. He's awful. He doesn't belong in the NFL. I like the Dolphins and want them to succeed. They need to ditch Rosen.
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speaking of the broncos...biggest game of the year tomorrow nightGreen Habit wrote:Ah, Mike McCoy, who got fired immediately after that aforementioned blowout by Denver, the same team that fired him midseason the year before.tree_ wrote:Another excuse being thrown around is the offensive coordinator being fired.
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Yeah, ... and for a rookie still learning the basics of playing a very complicated position, I'd say he did well, considering...Green Habit wrote:Ah, Mike McCoy, who got fired immediately after that aforementioned blowout by Denver, the same team that fired him midseason the year before.tree_ wrote:Another excuse being thrown around is the offensive coordinator being fired.
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Have yall already forgotten Goff and his rookie season? Rosen could absolutely improve, and majorly.
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To me, Rosen's ceiling is Jay Cutler, and that's not good enoughOrpheus wrote:Have yall already forgotten Goff and his rookie season? Rosen could absolutely improve, and majorly.