What makes you think he'll suddenly come up with new and interesting things to say after the last two albums? I really wish people would stop bringing up the rich 50 year old family man crap.verb_to_trust wrote:I'm not interested in a rich 50 year old family man's self references. I think the better choice would be to dream up some interesting things to say rather than Future Days type subject matter. Hopefully we get more of that...harmless wrote:He's "too boring" and yet you want him to make "interesting shit" up? Good luck with that.verb_to_trust wrote:Ed is too boring to be self referencing. Make some interesting shit up, I say.WtOB? wrote:and i don't want him to go there again. jg was awful. much worse than inside job.harmless wrote:Ed has always self-referenced. I'm OK with it. I'd rather that than him trying to write something with a new subject. Johnny Guitar is the furthest he got.
If Ed self-references, he can only be as boring as the original songs imo. Anything that self-references my favourite PJ songs is at least worth giving a go. I also think Johnny Guitar was the best song on Backspacer, but it was most definitely a witty pop song and I wouldn't want it to represent Pearl Jam.
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I don't know, I think looking for meaning in rock lyrics is a fool's errand. I think of vocals as an instrument in themselves: the sounds being made by the voice is what really matters, not what words are being sung.
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Especially these days, because the band isn't a powerhouse anymore, so I wish the lyrics had got stronger to compensate. But it doesn't look like it.WtOB? wrote:lyrics are also more important in some bands than others. in pearl jam, they're definitely an important factor.
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Looks like they'll be saving them for Lost Dogs 2 along with OTE.E.H. Ruddock wrote:So no cold confession or let it ride then?
Unless we finally get that EP, or they release them as bonus tracks/b-sides to the next few singles.
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I don't need a song to mean a great deal, I just don't really want it to sound stupid or like a 10 year old could've written it.Birds in Hell wrote:I don't know, I think looking for meaning in rock lyrics is a fool's errand. I think of vocals as an instrument in themselves: the sounds being made by the voice is what really matters, not what words are being sung.
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yeah yeah yeah!harmless wrote:I don't need a song to mean a great deal, I just don't really want it to sound stupid or like a 10 year old could've written it.Birds in Hell wrote:I don't know, I think looking for meaning in rock lyrics is a fool's errand. I think of vocals as an instrument in themselves: the sounds being made by the voice is what really matters, not what words are being sung.
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Johnny Guitar means nothing. But it's really well-written.WtOB? wrote:yeah yeah yeah!harmless wrote:I don't need a song to mean a great deal, I just don't really want it to sound stupid or like a 10 year old could've written it.Birds in Hell wrote:I don't know, I think looking for meaning in rock lyrics is a fool's errand. I think of vocals as an instrument in themselves: the sounds being made by the voice is what really matters, not what words are being sung.
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harmless wrote:I don't need a song to mean a great deal, I just don't really want it to sound stupid or like a 10 year old could've written it.Birds in Hell wrote:I don't know, I think looking for meaning in rock lyrics is a fool's errand. I think of vocals as an instrument in themselves: the sounds being made by the voice is what really matters, not what words are being sung.
Sometimes those aren't half bad.
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yeah, but i don't wanna turn on a pearl jam record and hear about johnny guitar's chronic masturbation problem.harmless wrote:Johnny Guitar means nothing. But it's really well-written.WtOB? wrote:yeah yeah yeah!harmless wrote:I don't need a song to mean a great deal, I just don't really want it to sound stupid or like a 10 year old could've written it.Birds in Hell wrote:I don't know, I think looking for meaning in rock lyrics is a fool's errand. I think of vocals as an instrument in themselves: the sounds being made by the voice is what really matters, not what words are being sung.
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The music to "Inside Job" isn't bad, just dull. The harmonic promise of the opening bars resolves in nothing, just musical onanism. It's dragged further down by virtue of Eddie's hammy delivery and those awful fucking lyrics-- there's really no overstating just how bad they are. If you take that away, it's just a bland, inoffensive rock tune, akin to a million others you can find in Bandcamp. It'd be a better song.Birds in Hell wrote:The music of Inside Job isn't bad.
And I mean, really, who cares about lyrics? They're just words.
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Sorry, I can't listen as I don't want to wake anyone and my headphones are broken. But I guess if I have something which sounds very naive and childlike, that's OK, but there has to be a knowing sense of irony there. It has to know it's being slightly silly. Supersonic has no idea it's being silly.super nintendo chalmers wrote:harmless wrote:I don't need a song to mean a great deal, I just don't really want it to sound stupid or like a 10 year old could've written it.Birds in Hell wrote:I don't know, I think looking for meaning in rock lyrics is a fool's errand. I think of vocals as an instrument in themselves: the sounds being made by the voice is what really matters, not what words are being sung.
Sometimes those aren't half bad.
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trufe. ed is earnestly singing about how he doesn't need music to live anymore and shit. it's embarrassing.harmless wrote:Sorry, I can't listen as I don't want to wake anyone and my headphones are broken. But I guess if I have something which sounds very naive and childlike, that's OK, but there has to be a knowing sense of irony there. It has to know it's being slightly silly. Supersonic has no idea it's being silly.super nintendo chalmers wrote:harmless wrote:I don't need a song to mean a great deal, I just don't really want it to sound stupid or like a 10 year old could've written it.Birds in Hell wrote:I don't know, I think looking for meaning in rock lyrics is a fool's errand. I think of vocals as an instrument in themselves: the sounds being made by the voice is what really matters, not what words are being sung.
Sometimes those aren't half bad.
HS wrote that when he was about twelve.
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And that's why, although I really like it, something like MYM makes me happier because it might not be a better song, but it's more Pearl Jam. Wait, that point has nothing to do with my previous one. I'm tired.WtOB? wrote:yeah, but i don't wanna turn on a pearl jam record and hear about johnny guitar's chronic masturbation problem.harmless wrote:Johnny Guitar means nothing. But it's really well-written.WtOB? wrote:yeah yeah yeah!harmless wrote:I don't need a song to mean a great deal, I just don't really want it to sound stupid or like a 10 year old could've written it.Birds in Hell wrote:I don't know, I think looking for meaning in rock lyrics is a fool's errand. I think of vocals as an instrument in themselves: the sounds being made by the voice is what really matters, not what words are being sung.
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"I wanna live my life with the volume full!" Fucking hell.WtOB? wrote:trufe. ed is earnestly singing about how he doesn't need music to live anymore and shit. it's embarrassing.harmless wrote:Sorry, I can't listen as I don't want to wake anyone and my headphones are broken. But I guess if I have something which sounds very naive and childlike, that's OK, but there has to be a knowing sense of irony there. It has to know it's being slightly silly. Supersonic has no idea it's being silly.super nintendo chalmers wrote:harmless wrote:I don't need a song to mean a great deal, I just don't really want it to sound stupid or like a 10 year old could've written it.Birds in Hell wrote:I don't know, I think looking for meaning in rock lyrics is a fool's errand. I think of vocals as an instrument in themselves: the sounds being made by the voice is what really matters, not what words are being sung.
Sometimes those aren't half bad.
HS wrote that when he was about twelve.
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Johnny Guitar is fantastic.
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He's boring an uninteresting to me as a person, that's all. Its not his fault. Younger Eddie was at least interesting. Its okay to fake it through some lyrics at 50 if it means we don't have to listen to love songs to his model wife and kids.harmless wrote:What makes you think he'll suddenly come up with new and interesting things to say after the last two albums? I really wish people would stop bringing up the rich 50 year old family man crap.verb_to_trust wrote:I'm not interested in a rich 50 year old family man's self references. I think the better choice would be to dream up some interesting things to say rather than Future Days type subject matter. Hopefully we get more of that...harmless wrote:He's "too boring" and yet you want him to make "interesting shit" up? Good luck with that.verb_to_trust wrote:Ed is too boring to be self referencing. Make some interesting shit up, I say.WtOB? wrote:and i don't want him to go there again. jg was awful. much worse than inside job.harmless wrote:Ed has always self-referenced. I'm OK with it. I'd rather that than him trying to write something with a new subject. Johnny Guitar is the furthest he got.
If Ed self-references, he can only be as boring as the original songs imo. Anything that self-references my favourite PJ songs is at least worth giving a go. I also think Johnny Guitar was the best song on Backspacer, but it was most definitely a witty pop song and I wouldn't want it to represent Pearl Jam.
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Yes.Birds in Hell wrote:Johnny Guitar is fantastic.
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i don't need you to live, but i'll never let you go eah-eah. eah yeah yeah.harmless wrote:"I wanna live my life with the volume full!" Fucking hell.
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I don't give a shit whether he's 50 and rich, or his wife is a model. Being married and having kids is fucking wonderful and I don't mind if he sings about it. The experience isn't less true because he's rich and his wife is a model. Maybe you'd feel differently if you were a model.verb_to_trust wrote:He's boring an uninteresting to me as a person, that's all. Its not his fault. Younger Eddie was at least interesting. Its okay to fake it through some lyrics at 50 if it means we don't have to listen to love songs to his model wife and kids.harmless wrote:What makes you think he'll suddenly come up with new and interesting things to say after the last two albums? I really wish people would stop bringing up the rich 50 year old family man crap.verb_to_trust wrote:I'm not interested in a rich 50 year old family man's self references. I think the better choice would be to dream up some interesting things to say rather than Future Days type subject matter. Hopefully we get more of that...harmless wrote:He's "too boring" and yet you want him to make "interesting shit" up? Good luck with that.verb_to_trust wrote:Ed is too boring to be self referencing. Make some interesting shit up, I say.WtOB? wrote:and i don't want him to go there again. jg was awful. much worse than inside job.harmless wrote:Ed has always self-referenced. I'm OK with it. I'd rather that than him trying to write something with a new subject. Johnny Guitar is the furthest he got.
If Ed self-references, he can only be as boring as the original songs imo. Anything that self-references my favourite PJ songs is at least worth giving a go. I also think Johnny Guitar was the best song on Backspacer, but it was most definitely a witty pop song and I wouldn't want it to represent Pearl Jam.
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theplatypus wrote:Yes.Birds in Hell wrote:Johnny Guitar is fantastic.