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Boris and the Tories gunning for a no deal.
But somehow it’s the Taoiseachs fault....riiiight
But somehow it’s the Taoiseachs fault....riiiight
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It's abuser logic "it's your fault I hit you because you wouldn't stop mouthing off".
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This is huge. But fair play. Any man you put at a checkpoint of any kind is going to be a target.
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good on them
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You missed the report about fleet of new customs cars to patrol the border and the first armed Gardai unit started patrolling this week?
Our response seems to be no hard border just fluid random checks.
Still impossible though.
Our response seems to be no hard border just fluid random checks.
Still impossible though.
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It seems that’s every organization of note in NI that has come out against this bizarre proposal of Johnson’s. Apart from the DUP.
This is all political theater. No way was his plan going to fly and he knows it.
His cabinet met today. And the Hungarian diplomats in the same building.
He’s up to something. Probably getting them to block any further extension request. It only takes one EU state to object.
This is all political theater. No way was his plan going to fly and he knows it.
His cabinet met today. And the Hungarian diplomats in the same building.
He’s up to something. Probably getting them to block any further extension request. It only takes one EU state to object.
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Oh boy. This on BBC last night. Naturally she’s a hero here today. Not so much in Britain
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Johnson to send letter requesting extension before October 19th
After MONTHS of do or die we’re leaving on the 31st
After MONTHS of do or die we’re leaving on the 31st
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This is ongoing and not getting any notice. British government trying to worm out of its GFA commitments via the courts. It’s bizarre it’s not on every headline. They’re undoing it via the back door
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I can tell you there are 5 million jaws on the floor all over Ireland that Varadkar even said this. But he said it. First. On his list of options to solve this. Reunification.
Language from him unthinkable even a year ago
Language from him unthinkable even a year ago
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Seriously hard language from Barnier. Basically, Enough of your fucking around. This is your own fault. Own it.
Speculation growing that the EU will not be granting any further extensions for Brexit. This interview is well worth a read
Speculation growing that the EU will not be granting any further extensions for Brexit. This interview is well worth a read
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Here come the threats. Paywalled so can’t see the full thing
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news ... -jmrpl2lrw
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news ... -jmrpl2lrw
The Republic of Ireland will face potential disruption of medical supplies, customs delays, the loss of fishing rights and a ban on the transport of horses to the UK in the event of a no-deal Brexit, a paper drawn up in Whitehall has warned.
Michael Gove’s Brexit operations committee has compiled a list of the issues that Dublin will face in a no-deal Brexit, to be used as “leverage” during last-ditch discussions in the event that negotiations break down.
The Times understands that issues raised by ministers include:
• The fact that 60 per cent of Ireland’s medicines come from the UK.
• Customs checks causing lengthy delays on the bridge to Holyhead, from where freight traffic travels to Ireland.
• The potential loss of fishing…
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Full article. Have a look at the comments to get a view into the british mindset. Fucking hell
Ireland warned to expect disruption to medicines and fishing in no-deal Brexit
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Steven Swinford, Deputy Political Editor | Henry Zeffman, Political Correspondent | The Times
October 6 2019, 6:00pm, The Sunday Times
The Republic of Ireland will face potential disruption of medical supplies, customs delays, the loss of fishing rights and a ban on the transport of horses to the UK in the event of a no-deal Brexit, a paper drawn up in Whitehall has warned.
Michael Gove’s Brexit operations committee has compiled a list of the issues that Dublin will face in a no-deal Brexit, to be used as “leverage” during last-ditch discussions in the event that negotiations break down.
The Times understands that issues raised by ministers include:
• The fact that 60 per cent of Ireland’s medicines come from the UK.
• Customs checks causing lengthy delays on the bridge to Holyhead, from where freight traffic travels to Ireland.
• The potential loss of fishing rights off the coast of Northern Ireland.
• Disruption to “equine transport” between the Republic and the UK.
Ministers are also considering a range of “sweeteners” to offer Dublin, including a commitment to help fund the infrastructure needed to enforce customs checks between the North and South.
Stephen Barclay, the Brexit secretary, suggested that Britain could amend its proposals to give Northern Irish parties a veto on the regulations that apply in the province after Brexit.
Speaking this morning on the BBC’s Andrew Marr Show, Mr Barclay said: “The key issue is the principle of consent. That’s why the backstop was rejected three times. That was the concern in terms of both sides in Northern Ireland not approving of the backstop.
“So the key is the principle of consent. Now, of course in the mechanism, as part of the intensive negotiations, we can look at that and discuss that.”
Mr Barclay reiterated that Northern Ireland giving consent to abiding by regulations set in Brussels was “the key issue of principle” but added that “we can obviously as part of the intense negotiations in the coming days discuss that mechanism”.
Under the existing UK proposal, Northern Ireland’s Stormont assembly would vote every four years on whether to remain aligned with the EU’s single market rules for goods. But the Irish government opposes this, as does every major Northern Irish party but for the DUP, the Conservatives’ allies in Westminster.
Asked if the government was “going to move” on its current proposal, Mr Barclay said: “Well, we’ve set out a broad landing zone, so in the detail of the negotiations of course we can get into the detail as to how operationally they work [and] what legal certainty is required by the commission as of October 31.
“But the point is the commission themselves proposed customs checks away from the border, and in terms of the all-of-Ireland economy that would have had a bigger impact in terms of trade to Great Britain than it does to Northern Ireland.”
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Just one small example of how complex the border is. He’s one among thousands.
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Joshnson said he hadn’t received any response to from the EU to his plan.
Sock horror. He lied.
Revealed: the EU's point-by-point rejection of Johnson's Brexit plan
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... rexit-plan
Sock horror. He lied.
Revealed: the EU's point-by-point rejection of Johnson's Brexit plan
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... rexit-plan
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Lot to unpack here. Johnson spoke to Merkel this morning. Number 10 ‘source’ immediately released this statement. Thing is. She never said any of these things. Especially ‘Eu want no deal / Eu happy to torpedo Good Friday agreement.
Huuuuuuuge. In no universe would Merkel use such language or make such suggestions. They’ve basically been caught putting words in the German leaders mouth.
EU President Tisk came out immediately against it
Huuuuuuuge. In no universe would Merkel use such language or make such suggestions. They’ve basically been caught putting words in the German leaders mouth.
EU President Tisk came out immediately against it
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British Prime Minister Boris Johnson is facing a new rebellion from his cabinet over concerns of a no-deal Brexit, with a group of cabinet ministers poised to resign, The Times newspaper reported on Wednesday.
Culture Secretary Nicky Morgan, British Minister for Northern Ireland Julian Smith, Justice Secretary Robert Buckland, Health Minister Matt Hancock and Attorney General Geoffrey Cox are all on a "resignation watch list", according to The Times report.
An unnamed cabinet minister cited by the newspaper said that a "very large number" of Conservative members of parliament would also quit if it came to a no-deal Brexit.
The Times said that ministers had warned Johnson in a cabinet meeting about the "grave" risk of the return of direct rule in Northern Ireland and raised concerns about Dominic Cummings, Johnson's most senior adviser.
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NI secratary of state Julian Smith tweeted this yesterday. Its very much openly breaking ranks. But standing up for his role as SoS after security info between Europe and U.K. is being thrown out the window by Johnson
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