The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

[Norah]

I guess that video has been around for a while, but if it's been shown at Trump events that's really fucked up.

[McParadigm]

Worlds greatest negotiator tweets out detailed promises before an agreement is signed, giving the other side all of the power that was there to be had.

[Bi_3]

In case you haven’t seen it yet

Noticeably absent: Alternative Nation

[BurtReynolds]

funny how no one was upset when it was just red state Christians being slaughtered at church by a posh British elite.

[Strat]

funny how no one was upset when it was just red state Christians being slaughtered at church by a posh British elite.

You know how many red state Christians were probably shot at that god awful country music festival in Vegas?

[BurtReynolds]

funny how no one was upset when it was just red state Christians being slaughtered at church by a posh British elite.

You know how many red state Christians were probably shot at that god awful country music festival in Vegas?

Is that The Kingsman's fault?

[McParadigm]

It’s weird how people think that a violent movie is ok, but that altering footage from the same movie to shape a memetic fantasy about a bloodbath of real people is somehow not cool.

[BurtReynolds]

Yeah totally. Slapping a CNN logo on a guy's head is so much more dangerous.

[McParadigm]

Yeah totally. Slapping a CNN logo on a guy's head is so much more dangerous.

The left would be free of most of these silly accusations of instigating violence if like 95% of dumbass celebrities weren't left wing.

[McParadigm]

To be clear, I think the video is like super, super dumb, and the organization that hosted the event it was shown at has had Roger Stone and Don Jr as keynote speakers, so it’s basically grown man daycare.

The existence of the video though, and its prolonged appreciation within that circle, is just another example of the right’s fetishizing of the feeling of victory over those who disagree with them to the point of dehumanizing anyone who is not them

[BurtReynolds]

To be clear, I think the video is like super, super dumb, and the organization that hosted the event it was shown at has had Roger Stone and Don Jr as keynote speakers, so it’s basically grown man daycare.

The existence of the video though, and its prolonged appreciation within that circle, is just another example of the right’s fetishizing of the feeling of victory over those who disagree with them to the point of dehumanizing anyone who is not them

What was the original scene about but a "fetishizing of the feeling of victory over those who disagree with them to the point of dehumanizing anyone who is not them (in this case, liberal Hollywood)"?

[McParadigm]

Burt, there is no version of this world where I’m going to pretend to humor the spin that a lowbrow movie’s jackoff violence porn is equatable to a political action organization’s fantasizing about their cult leader executing those who disagree with or report on him. And there’s no version of this world where I don’t think that you are forcing that association out of ideological, defensive need.

This isn’t the source material. This isn’t the very stupid movie. This isn’t, in fact, **any** movie. Picture Chelsea Clinton speaking at an event that coops Django and Inglorious Basterds footage to meme the torture and execution of Republicans, reporters, and any Democrat that didn’t bend the knee to Hillary. Picture members of antifa sharing it gleefully, months after Fox News was the recipient of multiple bomb threats. Really imagine that. While President Hillary Clinton was daily telling her frothing supporters that conservative media was the enemy of the people. Picture President Hillary not condemning the bloodbath her followers laughed at, and instead continuing to vilify anyone who critiqued her at all in the aftermath.

Picture the BurtReynolds account mocking conservatives for being uptight/upset about the obviously harmless joke. Ask yourself honestly if he would.

[Peeps]

Yeah totally. Slapping a CNN logo on a guy's head is so much more dangerous.

burt im going to be lazy here so let me know

when kathy griffin posed with that fake trump head im sure you were just as blase about it since it wasnt real, right? cause lord knows no one was offended by that in the least

[Bi_3]

Burt, there is no version of this world where I’m going to pretend to humor the spin that a lowbrow movie’s jackoff violence porn is equatable to a political action organization’s fantasizing about their cult leader executing those who disagree with or report on him. And there’s no version of this world where I don’t think that you are forcing that association out of ideological, defensive need.

This isn’t the source material. This isn’t the very stupid movie. This isn’t, in fact, **any** movie. Picture Chelsea Clinton speaking at an event that coops Django and Inglorious Basterds footage to meme the torture and execution of Republicans, reporters, and any Democrat that didn’t bend the knee to Hillary. Picture members of antifa sharing it gleefully, months after Fox News was the recipient of multiple bomb threats. Really imagine that. While President Hillary Clinton was daily telling her frothing supporters that conservative media was the enemy of the people. Picture President Hillary not condemning the bloodbath her followers laughed at, and instead continuing to vilify anyone who critiqued her at all in the aftermath.

Picture the BurtReynolds account mocking conservatives for being uptight/upset about the obviously harmless joke. Ask yourself honestly if he would.

I am really appreciating this last minute push to take the noodle brained division

[BurtReynolds]

Burt, there is no version of this world where I’m going to pretend to humor the spin that a lowbrow movie’s jackoff violence porn is equatable to a political action organization’s fantasizing about their cult leader executing those who disagree with or report on him. And there’s no version of this world where I don’t think that you are forcing that association out of ideological, defensive need.

This isn’t the source material. This isn’t the very stupid movie. This isn’t, in fact, **any** movie. Picture Chelsea Clinton speaking at an event that coops Django and Inglorious Basterds footage to meme the torture and execution of Republicans, reporters, and any Democrat that didn’t bend the knee to Hillary. Picture members of antifa sharing it gleefully, months after Fox News was the recipient of multiple bomb threats. Really imagine that. While President Hillary Clinton was daily telling her frothing supporters that conservative media was the enemy of the people. Picture President Hillary not condemning the bloodbath her followers laughed at, and instead continuing to vilify anyone who critiqued her at all in the aftermath.

Picture the BurtReynolds account mocking conservatives for being uptight/upset about the obviously harmless joke. Ask yourself honestly if he would.

And there is that famous handwaving I've come to expect: "that was just a dumb movie! This is IMPORTANT!"

I can see how you would think this is more important after years now of heavy doses of brainwashing to believe that we are surrounded by literal Nazis and that even the slightest hint of danger in art will translate into some incel shooting up a school. You are probably too far gone to help.

But I assure you, a few boomers laughing about this scene being turned around on the type of people who made it is no worse than the premiere cultural exporter in the world demonizing southern churchgoers.

Apply your hypothetical to yourself, and I imagine you'd be shrugging that it's no big deal.

But my point here is that both are roughly the same in severity and you are too hypocritical to notice.

[BurtReynolds]

Yeah totally. Slapping a CNN logo on a guy's head is so much more dangerous.

burt im going to be lazy here so let me know

when kathy griffin posed with that fake trump head im sure you were just as blase about it since it wasnt real, right? cause lord knows no one was offended by that in the least

The right certainly played that up to the fullest, though in my opinion it mostly just illustrates the hypocrisy of the left saying the right is the sole promoter of violence (if you can even call it that) against the other side.

I don't remember if I thought Griffin's stunt was dangerous or not at the time (it certainly seems silly to me now), but if calling me a hypocrite about it would allow people to move on to arguing the point I'm making, I'll accept the label.

Lately, I see these things as symptoms of increasing division, not drivers of it, but I guess that's the age old question about whether life imitates art or vice versa.

[BurtReynolds]

Now if you'll excuse me I have to get back to my paper about how Zootopia is anti-nietzschean slave morality trash.

[tragabigzanda]

Those sloths sure were funny

[BurtReynolds]

Those sloths sure were funny

NO THEY WEREN'T

[Bi_3]

Now if you'll excuse me I have to get back to my paper about how Zootopia is anti-nietzschean slave morality trash.

There is no way to avoid it, the Fox was black people