The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
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Lads this interview is packed with gold. And bombshells.
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That's fair. Agreed.tragabigzanda wrote: I think those numbers really need some context to be of any use, and the quick headline is essentially useless and misleading, because it almost paints the picture that farmers were fine until Trump came along.
I'm sure that many AG pros do feel as you describe. I fundamentally oppose government policies designed to shield certain businesses from competition, though I do admit that there are legitimate concerns about the entire business model of farming and it is extremely sensitive to all sorts of fluctuations, so reasonable arguments can be made to support their side, even if I will likely end up disagreeing in the end.tragabigzanda wrote: And then my followup point was only that while trade wars are largely unpopular for the very reasons you've shared, those are all very immediate impacts; and that Trump, for all his tomfuckery, has what many lifelong ag professionals see as a valid tactical approach (I do not necessarily subscribe to this belief): Dig in your heels and upend the markets in hopes of renegotiating trade deals down the line.
On the other hand, I'm extremely skeptical of this digging in and renegotiating plan actually working. And that's before we remember that Trump is a staggeringly incompetent buffoon who undercuts himself with breathtaking dexterity.
I agree with the first sentence obviously. And just as obviously I don't agree with the second part. Well, I mean I would renegotiate, but to further liberalize trade and movement of goods and people.tragabigzanda wrote: He's done a miserable job of implementing this tactic -- see my prior post re: a hammer vs. a scalpel -- but I think that the reporting around it has completely missed the fucking point of what seems to be a valid gripe for certain sectors: That trade deals dating back to the 1940s don't favor major U.S. export producers, and it's beyond time to renegotiate.
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"Very sloppy"
Giuliani asked Apple genius to help unlock iPhone after being named Trump's cybersecurity adviser: report
Giuliani asked Apple genius to help unlock iPhone after being named Trump's cybersecurity adviser: report
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dimejinky99 wrote:Lads this interview is packed with gold. And bombshells.
Trump reckons he’ll be running against Warren
And of course called her Pocahontas
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4/5 wrote:That's fair. Agreed.tragabigzanda wrote: I think those numbers really need some context to be of any use, and the quick headline is essentially useless and misleading, because it almost paints the picture that farmers were fine until Trump came along.
I'm sure that many AG pros do feel as you describe. I fundamentally oppose government policies designed to shield certain businesses from competition, though I do admit that there are legitimate concerns about the entire business model of farming and it is extremely sensitive to all sorts of fluctuations, so reasonable arguments can be made to support their side, even if I will likely end up disagreeing in the end.tragabigzanda wrote: And then my followup point was only that while trade wars are largely unpopular for the very reasons you've shared, those are all very immediate impacts; and that Trump, for all his tomfuckery, has what many lifelong ag professionals see as a valid tactical approach (I do not necessarily subscribe to this belief): Dig in your heels and upend the markets in hopes of renegotiating trade deals down the line.
On the other hand, I'm extremely skeptical of this digging in and renegotiating plan actually working. And that's before we remember that Trump is a staggeringly incompetent buffoon who undercuts himself with breathtaking dexterity.
I agree with the first sentence obviously. And just as obviously I don't agree with the second part. Well, I mean I would renegotiate, but to further liberalize trade and movement of goods and people.tragabigzanda wrote: He's done a miserable job of implementing this tactic -- see my prior post re: a hammer vs. a scalpel -- but I think that the reporting around it has completely missed the fucking point of what seems to be a valid gripe for certain sectors: That trade deals dating back to the 1940s don't favor major U.S. export producers, and it's beyond time to renegotiate.
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What were they chanting “lock her up”, for again?tragabigzanda wrote:"Very sloppy"![]()
Giuliani asked Apple genius to help unlock iPhone after being named Trump's cybersecurity adviser: report
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Here’s that interview with Farage and trump. It’s really really worth listening to
The most bonkers thing you will ever hear.
The most bonkers thing you will ever hear.
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i don't think farmers as a bloc clearly support trump
they are suffering, for a variety of reasons. trump can't fix it and is making it worse in certain ways
in general when a group is suffering, the incumbent pays the price for it
look at the whole rust belt issue
they are suffering, for a variety of reasons. trump can't fix it and is making it worse in certain ways
in general when a group is suffering, the incumbent pays the price for it
look at the whole rust belt issue
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Farmers will never break from Trump. They will do some mental gymnastics and convince themselves Trump is just being handcuffed by the libs.
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yeah you're probably right i am giving them too much credit
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Happy polling day everybody!
National poll: Texas only: Pennsylvania:
National poll: Texas only: Pennsylvania:
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But McP the New York Times gave Hillary a 99% chance to win in 2016 so Trump is going to win in 2020!!!!
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Now he’s no longer a resident of New York State.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-d ... on-2019-11
I’m sure he thinks it will get him out of any tax-based lawsuits.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-d ... on-2019-11
I’m sure he thinks it will get him out of any tax-based lawsuits.
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we have a Florida Man as president, lord Jesus help us.
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But would he read the redacted or unredacted version?
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[ ... ]wease wrote:But would he read the redacted or unredacted version?
Everything's perfectly all right now. We're fine. We're all fine here, now, thank you. How are you?
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I can't stand don lemon
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Can anyone tell me what is actually going on here??
This is weirder by far than Michael Jackson having kids flock around him to touch him while doing his messiah shit
This is weirder by far than Michael Jackson having kids flock around him to touch him while doing his messiah shit
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