Film: The Irishman (Scorsese soonish)

[verb_to_trust]

So are we shitting on this because MS shit on Black Panther? I'm probably going to watch it later tonight and need to know how I'm supposed to react.

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[96583UP]

this movie is f**** great

[verb_to_trust]

This was excellent. Not perfect, but excellent nonetheless.

Spoiler: show

I kind of want to judge each act separately.

The first act: Frank's rise from lowly truck driver, to mob errand boy, and finally to confidant of both Hoffa and Bufalino, was perfect. Felt on equal footing with Goodfellas and Casino.

The second act: Hoffa's time in prison, and the power struggle between himself and the mob-backed Provenzano, was where things sort of dragged for me. It was a little difficult for me to keep up with what was going on, and my wife and I sort of had to parse things out together. And it also felt a little slow here, like they couldn't lose 15-20 minutes or so.

The third act: Frank's hit on Hoffa, the unraveling of the extended family, the mobsters all meeting up all in prison again and falling apart, and Frank's final days as a lonely man whose children hate him, was awfully sad. And unlike the downward spiral parts of Goodfellas or Casino, this one didn't offer any sort of dark humor or shocking turns; just old age getting the best of men who had previously thought themselves on top of the world.

Not quite as good as Goodfellas, but I may actually like this better than Casino, which I've always found to be very mean-spirited and sort of scummy despite its undeniable thrills.

That's interesting. Casino is a favorite of mine.

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[verb_to_trust]

This was excellent. Not perfect, but excellent nonetheless.

Spoiler: show

I kind of want to judge each act separately.

The first act: Frank's rise from lowly truck driver, to mob errand boy, and finally to confidant of both Hoffa and Bufalino, was perfect. Felt on equal footing with Goodfellas and Casino.

The second act: Hoffa's time in prison, and the power struggle between himself and the mob-backed Provenzano, was where things sort of dragged for me. It was a little difficult for me to keep up with what was going on, and my wife and I sort of had to parse things out together. And it also felt a little slow here, like they couldn't lose 15-20 minutes or so.

The third act: Frank's hit on Hoffa, the unraveling of the extended family, the mobsters all meeting up all in prison again and falling apart, and Frank's final days as a lonely man whose children hate him, was awfully sad. And unlike the downward spiral parts of Goodfellas or Casino, this one didn't offer any sort of dark humor or shocking turns; just old age getting the best of men who had previously thought themselves on top of the world.

Not quite as good as Goodfellas, but I may actually like this better than Casino, which I've always found to be very mean-spirited and sort of scummy despite its undeniable thrills.

That's interesting. Casino is a favorite of mine.

It's an awesome movie! It kind of makes me feel shitty though.

I've watched it so many times and yeah, there isn't any redemption. The opening scene with Sam getting blown up is always very jarring to me because he quite clearly turns into a stiff and not particularly realistic mannequin right before the explosion. Not sure how they missed that in editing.

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[Mecca]

I felt this movie lacked the charm of Goodfellas and Casino.

[verb_to_trust]

De Niro and Pesci are just so damn old. The time jumps don't hit me right. Not much difference between old as hell and even older.

[verb_to_trust]

When De Niro is talking about being in the war? What war? Of 1812?

[Jorge]

A couple of bizarre editing moments in this one. Not sure if glitches or just odd choices

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[Ensign9]

I couldn't get past the aging effects CGI -- too distracting throughout. It made the acting feel muted and a step removed from reality -- almost as if we were seeing an echo of their performances. De Niro's eyes, in particular, looked off whenever he was de-aged. Pacino's face looked like it was floating independent of his head in some scenes. I think they were mostly successful with Pesci. All of this caused a disconnect that made the 3.5 hours FEEL like 3.5 hours because I was never truly immersed in the story.

Side note: based on his appearance in the half-hour conversation featurette with Scorsese, Pesci, De Niro and Pacino, Joe is trying hard to hold onto his youth...and failing.

[digster]

Though I will say that outside of one scene where they were eating ice cream and the chewing motions looked weird, the deageing otherwise didn’t bother me at all

Yeah, I found that the general word on the de-aging I'd be reading in interviews turned out to be correct; when it first shows up on the screen, you notice it a little bit, but it disappears almost immediately, and you really only ever notice it with Deniro, if at all (probably because he's in almost every scene).

Anyways, great movie with an astonishing final third (and it was a final third that likely wouldn't have hit the way it did without the long buildup that preceded it).

[doug rr]

my wife and i really enjoyed it..we treated it like a mini series and watched 45 minutes or so at a time..took thursday and friday..still liked casino better

[Mecca]

The blood fx were awful

[VinylGuy]

Though I will say that outside of one scene where they were eating ice cream and the chewing motions looked weird, the deageing otherwise didn’t bother me at all

Yeah, I found that the general word on the de-aging I'd be reading in interviews turned out to be correct; when it first shows up on the screen, you notice it a little bit, but it disappears almost immediately, and you really only ever notice it with Deniro, if at all (probably because he's in almost every scene).

Anyways, great movie with an astonishing final third (and it was a final third that likely wouldn't have hit the way it did without the long buildup that preceded it).

Yeah this was also my experience with the de aging thing....at first it was noticeable, specially on De Niro. Then, it went away completely.
Great work. The scope of this movie is also amazing.

[96583UP]

my wife and i really enjoyed it..we treated it like a mini series and watched 45 minutes or so at a time..took thursday and friday..still liked casino better

feeling this. was actually thinking they should have done this as a ‘Part I’ and ‘Part II’ bc we conditioned consumers lack the self-control to know when to take a breather and pick up later and instead just keep watching until we’re blind and then complain it was too long

[VinylGuy]

yeah, i guess these days people are more used to see their contents that way on tv. It was quite the experience to see it on the cinema...it grabbed my attention and never let go. People were hooked from the start until the very end.

Also, seeing this one after Ford Vs Ferrari was fucking good too...two great movies, with these scope, this cast, this narrative. It made me really happy.