Election 2020

[McParadigm]

TV ads are a waste of money. Nobody likes ads. It's not 1996.

It’s far more effective to turn them into a 24-7 “news” channel.

[McParadigm]

[BurtReynolds]

The Democratic Party right now:

1. A mostly young, activist class with massive grass roots organizing power, an aggressive online presence, no patience, and an almost completely rewritten agenda.

2. An increasingly moderate and intransigent old guard who are more comfortable attacking far left ideas than they are taxing the rich.

3. A remarkably large group of parasitic, often powerful people who recognize the opening that the divide between groups one and two creates, but don’t understand what it means or how to exploit it.

I am still not so sure that the public is so far off these “crazy liberal” ideas (at least the base of the ideas without too far of a discussion into the rabbit hole). Democrats just lack adequate salespeople to make the ideas more palatable. They need someone who can say, for instance, I believe unapologetically that everyone is entitled to good health care and access to medicine as a human right. Exactly how we get there needs to be negotiated with everyone, but we need health care for everyone as a uncompromised value. It doesn’t take a moderate to say I am willing to talk to everyone, listen, and work toward the best solution. Far left should understand that all or nothing is as perverse as what’s happening now in the other direction, but moderates should understand that standing for nothing doesn’t win you elections. There needs to be somewhere in the middle of those two things.

Isn't that platform overwhelmingly popular? Dems have never had a shortage of good salespeople.

They're far more successful at pushing their ideas than conservatives, who conserve nothing.

[McParadigm]

Joe Biden is a disaster.

[96583UP]

the nerve. where does he think he is, Bolivia?

[96583UP]

Joe Biden is a disaster.

legitimately wondering if Biden has dementia now; or if he is just his same aloof self but we hadn't seen in a while but now that he looks like the walking dead it comes across as dementia

[Bi_3]

Joe Biden is a disaster.

I understand, without condoning or condemning, we need the GOP

[BurtReynolds]

we're always gonna have two pretend choices.

[McParadigm]

Joe Biden is a disaster.

I understand, without condoning or condemning, we need the GOP

The best way to ensure that the GOP course corrects from the path that it’s on is for it to not experience too bad a loss on Election Day, I’m sure.

Just as the best get out the vote messaging for a primary front runner is “I’m worried that we will do too well.”

[McParadigm]

To be fair, no one party has ever controlled both the executive and legislative branches at the same time before, so we have no way of knowing what the consequences of Joe Biden‘s nightmare scenario might be.

[McParadigm]

What an immeasurable dipshit.

[verb_to_trust]

How is Bernie still whip smart but Joe's brain is applesauce? We all age differently I guess

[PHATJ]

Thank you, leftists. Thank you for showing America the way.

You realize that approximately half (at minimum) of the population of the United States is a supporter of Trump, right? You also realize that other than in spots like NYC, LA, and Chicago, Trump is FAR more popular than democrats, right? And you do understand that this impeachment nonsense has actually raised his popularity among conservatives and independents, right? And you know it’s made Democrats look like incompetent, petulant, sore losers that have no interest in due process, right? You can see that everything that the Dems are doing is pushing everyone that isn’t a far left zealot to the right, right? You realize that there is a significantly high percentage of minorities that are abandoning the leftist plantation and are finally starting to see through the liberal charade of envy, jealousy, and faux social justice, right?

As you embrace more and more extreme views on society, you are losing your base of rational average-joe Americans. As you mock and ridicule normal people that work hard, believe in personal liberty, and the power of free markets and capitalism, the average American sees what huge assholes and arrogant pricks the left is.

You are losing. The left is losing. And America is winning. Thank you.

That’s why your politicians have gone absolutely fucking bonkers. They are desperate and unhinged. The only thought they have is “Orange Man bad!!”

All this continues while Donald Trump is exposing the left for the frauds that they are. He pushes your buttons and you always take the bait. Thank you.

As the economy booms, and unemployment hits record lows for all people - especially the minorities that Trump supposedly hates, and Republicans introduce bills and laws to protect LGBT people, unborn children, and individual liberty; liberals just keep screaming, crying, and turning more hateful and violent. You think you are on the right side of history when it’s becoming more clear every day that you aren’t.

Your party is obsessed with power and is riddled with insane corruption. It’s poisonous. And we are watching as the Democratic Party begins to tear apart at it’s seams.

Republicans, independents, and reformed liberals are banding together. We are welcoming an inpouring of former Democrats that refuse to follow socialism and the ridiculous extremes of your hate-mongering “social justice warriors”. We are now clearly the “party of the people” that you always claimed to be, even if you had no right to such claims.

Thank you for being such extremists and such huge assholes about it. You are helping us MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN! Thank you!

#MAGA #DrainTheSwamp #WalkAway #AmericaFirst #ThankYouLeftistGoons #Trump2020

[Norah]

lol

[Norah]

Thank you, leftists. Thank you for showing America the way.

You realize that approximately half (at minimum) of the population of the United States is a supporter of Trump, right? You also realize that other than in spots like NYC, LA, and Chicago, Trump is FAR more popular than democrats, right? And you do understand that this impeachment nonsense has actually raised his popularity among conservatives and independents, right? And you know it’s made Democrats look like incompetent, petulant, sore losers that have no interest in due process, right? You can see that everything that the Dems are doing is pushing everyone that isn’t a far left zealot to the right, right? You realize that there is a significantly high percentage of minorities that are abandoning the leftist plantation and are finally starting to see through the liberal charade of envy, jealousy, and faux social justice, right?

As you embrace more and more extreme views on society, you are losing your base of rational average-joe Americans. As you mock and ridicule normal people that work hard, believe in personal liberty, and the power of free markets and capitalism, the average American sees what huge assholes and arrogant pricks the left is.

You are losing. The left is losing. And America is winning. Thank you.

That’s why your politicians have gone absolutely fucking bonkers. They are desperate and unhinged. The only thought they have is “Orange Man bad!!”

All this continues while Donald Trump is exposing the left for the frauds that they are. He pushes your buttons and you always take the bait. Thank you.

As the economy booms, and unemployment hits record lows for all people - especially the minorities that Trump supposedly hates, and Republicans introduce bills and laws to protect LGBT people, unborn children, and individual liberty; liberals just keep screaming, crying, and turning more hateful and violent. You think you are on the right side of history when it’s becoming more clear every day that you aren’t.

Your party is obsessed with power and is riddled with insane corruption. It’s poisonous. And we are watching as the Democratic Party begins to tear apart at it’s seams.

Republicans, independents, and reformed liberals are banding together. We are welcoming an inpouring of former Democrats that refuse to follow socialism and the ridiculous extremes of your hate-mongering “social justice warriors”. We are now clearly the “party of the people” that you always claimed to be, even if you had no right to such claims.

Thank you for being such extremists and such huge assholes about it. You are helping us MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN! Thank you!

#MAGA #DrainTheSwamp #WalkAway #AmericaFirst #ThankYouLeftistGoons #Trump2020

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[PHATJ]

lol

This is about as much intelligence as you can muster isn’t it, chode?

[Simple Torture]

You realize that approximately half (at minimum) of the population of the United States is a supporter of Trump, right?...And you do understand that this impeachment nonsense has actually raised his popularity among conservatives and independents, right?

You've made sweeping statements like this before regarding the President's popularity without being able to point to any empirical evidence that demonstrates a clear trend in support changing in any significant way--his popularity has been stagnant at somewhere between 41-42.5% for months and months (with the only noticeable blip being a blip downward to below 40% during the federal government shutdown about a year ago). Contrary to what you say here, the reaction to the impeachment probe has basically split along the lines of the President's popularity--which, of course, you could argue is not good for the Democratic leadership that's pushing the probe, because they're not changing anyone's mind, it seems, at least at this stage. Could you link us to some of the studies that have persuaded you and led you to your conclusions?

[McParadigm]

Thank you, leftists. Thank you for showing America the way.

You realize that approximately half (at minimum) of the population of the United States is a supporter of Trump, right? You also realize that other than in spots like NYC, LA, and Chicago, Trump is FAR more popular than democrats, right?

And you do understand that this impeachment nonsense has actually raised his popularity among conservatives and independents, right? And you know it’s made Democrats look like incompetent, petulant, sore losers that have no interest in due process, right?

Support for impeachment among independents was floating around 35% before hearings started. What does polling from December say so far?

American sees what huge assholes and arrogant pricks the left is.

I’m familiar with this “Democrats are so full of hate! Oh how I hate them for their endless hate!” zealotry. Every grievance you don’t share must be faked. Every political ambition you oppose must be secretly corrupted. Every policy idea you dislike must be a scheme. When you feel anger towards others, it is legitimate. When others feel anger towards your political teammates, it is unhinged bitterness. Every fear you don’t share is just a manipulative posture. You look at people whose values and desires are different from you and can’t see anything but hate. And in that righteousness, you are able to recognize the falseness of any evidence to the contrary.

There’s a lot of this attitude in the place where I grew up, and my experience is that the people who enter into it often have very little trouble reaching the next logical step: when I hurt you, it is justified.

[wease]

The thing of it is, if Obama or Biden or Clinton or any other despicable democrat had been the one to ask Ukraine for “favors”, the Republicans would already have them out of office. So, to say the impeachment proceedings aren’t “nonsense”. The Republicans will be setting a very, VERY dangerous precedent when they acquit him in the Senate. They will be telling the world that it’s ok for the President to leverage anyone in order to gain personal political favors. It’s not good in this case and it wouldn’t be good if it was a Democrat in the hot seat right now.

[Simple Torture]

Are you going to respond in the NFL thread too, McP?