Lightning Bolt: the official album thread

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Rank Lightning Bolt

5 stars
1
1%
4 stars
4
5%
3 stars
29
37%
2 stars
30
38%
1 star
14
18%
 
Total votes: 78

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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Jaeti wrote:This album is going to have several really good songs.
I'm getting this good vibe that BS and Ole was a phase or just a one off and not the direction the band was going in. I'll have to hear LB before I know, obviously, but if that's the case and this sounds nothing like its predecessor, it will make me appreciate BS even more.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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"your whole tone for anticipating the album is "I want this" and "something that sounds like this song would be great". You sound like someone operating a jukebox."

If that's not unnecessarily confrontational, I really don't know what is.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Mine wrote:I don't know if this was mentioned before but those few reviews are in contrast with that B'OB' quote.
he seemed like a cool guy that was happy to answer fan questions.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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I think it's very possible that Lightning Bolt and Future Days will be, in general, two of the least-liked songs on the album. I think they'll be least representative of the mood as a whole. I think this album will feel a lot like Binaural, with a dash of Riot Act tossed in, and that this will be a very good recipe indeed.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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harmless wrote:I might be late posting this, but the latest few comments on the Pit from 'wolkenlos' (Frans):

Benz, that was your vinyl? Haha...we saw that and wanted to steal it, but then it was gone suddenly!

I couldn't agree more with Martin, that's definitely how I felt too. Well, except that I thought from the start that I might like this album better than Backspacer :lol:

Sirens & Getaway are very catchy. At least those are the 2 songs that are stuck in my head today. It's funny, yesterday I couldn't remember the melodies anymore but this morning they were back in my head. Chris could play a few chords of sirens on guitar, he might make a little video clip today :D

And it is really sooo hard, because now that I know the songs I want to listen to them even more, but it's only 38 days if I counted correctly.

The London soundcheck is Infallible, we recognized it straight away today, there is a special melody at the end of the verses or something like that that Chris wrote down & the rhythm is really quite unique to the other songs on the record.

Pendulum might also be one of my favorites, as is Sirens. I want to hear those damn songs again!!! Hopefully they'll leak soon :D
I wrote that Bleeding Muddy Water by Lanegan reminded me of the song Yellow Moon, I can't describe why, it's moody too. I just had this Lanegan song stuck in my head the whole time while Yellow Moon played, I guess that there might be a similar melody.

Oh boy, bring on october!!
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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harmless wrote:"your whole tone for anticipating the album is "I want this" and "something that sounds like this song would be great". You sound like someone operating a jukebox."

If that's not unnecessarily confrontational, I really don't know what is.
Here's what sounds unneccesarily confrontational: "go away".
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Jaeti wrote:I think it's very possible that Lightning Bolt and Future Days will be, in general, two of the least-liked songs on the album. I think they'll be least representative of the mood as a whole. I think this album will feel a lot like Binaural, with a dash of Riot Act tossed in, and that this will be a very good recipe indeed.
Those, mixed with a little yield and a bit of Backspacer polish. This sounds really light, dark, straightforward, strange, slow, fast. Eclectic. I'm hoping for that, it seems like the best scenario for a rock band with a pop producer. If BO'B needs this record to have some pop in it, throw some darkness in and have loads of sounds disagreeing and clashing.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Jaeti wrote:I think it's very possible that Lightning Bolt and Future Days will be, in general, two of the least-liked songs on the album. I think they'll be least representative of the mood as a whole. I think this album will feel a lot like Binaural, with a dash of Riot Act tossed in, and that this will be a very good recipe indeed.
As far as Wrigley, I guess if you're going to premier new songs in front of mix of hardcore, middle of the road and neutral fans, LB and FD might make more sense than some of the moodier songs that people are referring to.

So through no fault of the band, we got a weird taste in our mouth for LB almost immediately.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Tuolumne wrote:
harmless wrote:"your whole tone for anticipating the album is "I want this" and "something that sounds like this song would be great". You sound like someone operating a jukebox."

If that's not unnecessarily confrontational, I really don't know what is.
Here's what sounds unneccesarily confrontational: "go away".
You'll live. I could've been ruder about it. I want you to stop assuming I'm being negative about the new album based on zero evidence. Or if you can't do that, yes, go away. Please.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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harmless wrote:
Tuolumne wrote:
harmless wrote:"your whole tone for anticipating the album is "I want this" and "something that sounds like this song would be great". You sound like someone operating a jukebox."

If that's not unnecessarily confrontational, I really don't know what is.
Here's what sounds unneccesarily confrontational: "go away".
You'll live. I could've been ruder about it. I want you to stop assuming I'm being negative about the new album based on zero evidence. Or if you can't do that, yes, go away. Please.
how about U stop being a dickhead?
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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warehouse wrote:
harmless wrote:
Tuolumne wrote:
harmless wrote:"your whole tone for anticipating the album is "I want this" and "something that sounds like this song would be great". You sound like someone operating a jukebox."

If that's not unnecessarily confrontational, I really don't know what is.
Here's what sounds unneccesarily confrontational: "go away".
You'll live. I could've been ruder about it. I want you to stop assuming I'm being negative about the new album based on zero evidence. Or if you can't do that, yes, go away. Please.
how about U stop being a dickhead?
:?
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Cleverman wrote:
Mine wrote:I don't know if this was mentioned before but those few reviews are in contrast with that B'OB' quote.
he seemed like a cool guy that was happy to answer fan questions.
This is the quote I'm reffering to
"If you like Pearl Jam, you'll love this. And if you haven't listened to Pearl Jam in awhile, I think it's going to bring you in. That's the whole idea."
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Have fun dudes.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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harmless wrote:
Jaeti wrote:I think it's very possible that Lightning Bolt and Future Days will be, in general, two of the least-liked songs on the album. I think they'll be least representative of the mood as a whole. I think this album will feel a lot like Binaural, with a dash of Riot Act tossed in, and that this will be a very good recipe indeed.
Those, mixed with a little yield and a bit of Backspacer polish. This sounds really light, dark, straightforward, strange, slow, fast. Eclectic. I'm hoping for that, it seems like the best scenario for a rock band with a pop producer. If BO'B needs this record to have some pop in it, throw some darkness in and have loads of sounds disagreeing and clashing.
i.e. a logical extension of Backspacer. I think its going to be very difficult for them to escape that mold of tighter songwriting - and letting the songs breathe more. I speculate, at least, they've tried to do a bit of that with this album. But, the similarities will still be quite noticeable.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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So apparently Getaway has an insane breakdown where Eddie screams "DON'T EVER TAKE SIDES AGAINST THE JAMILY AGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIN"
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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EJ wrote:
harmless wrote:
Jaeti wrote:I think it's very possible that Lightning Bolt and Future Days will be, in general, two of the least-liked songs on the album. I think they'll be least representative of the mood as a whole. I think this album will feel a lot like Binaural, with a dash of Riot Act tossed in, and that this will be a very good recipe indeed.
Those, mixed with a little yield and a bit of Backspacer polish. This sounds really light, dark, straightforward, strange, slow, fast. Eclectic. I'm hoping for that, it seems like the best scenario for a rock band with a pop producer. If BO'B needs this record to have some pop in it, throw some darkness in and have loads of sounds disagreeing and clashing.
i.e. a logical extension of Backspacer. I think its going to be very difficult for them to escape that mold of tighter songwriting - and letting the songs breathe more. I speculate, at least, they've tried to do a bit of that with this album. But, the similarities will still be quite noticeable.
Yeah that's what I'm expecting.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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harmless wrote:
Tuolumne wrote:
harmless wrote:"your whole tone for anticipating the album is "I want this" and "something that sounds like this song would be great". You sound like someone operating a jukebox."

If that's not unnecessarily confrontational, I really don't know what is.
Here's what sounds unneccesarily confrontational: "go away".
You'll live. I could've been ruder about it. I want you to stop assuming I'm being negative about the new album based on zero evidence. Or if you can't do that, yes, go away. Please.

Man alive, you need a hug.

So, what I'm also hoping with this album, is that it will change the dynamic of the live show. If it is a little bit heavier/moodier than backspacer then perhaps songs from Binaural and Riot Act will find easier placement in the setlist.

I can see how the mood of Backspacer dictated how those shows/tours were. Fitting in with the whole light hearted celebratory vibe the band was going for....
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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I think Matt Cameron is an OK drummer, who's style is not well suited for PJ.

As for a songwriter, just my opinion, but I think he's absolute garbage. By far the worst in the band. That said, he came up with one great tune: Cropduster. I'll give him credit for that.

The songs he's written (solo) outside of that all blow - Evacuation, You Are, Get Right and In the Moonlight.

I'll give him a bit of credit for his parts in Unemployable, Save You, and Johnny Guitar.... and even The Fixer is also mediocre (musically, lyrics suck). But, who knows how involved he was in each. To me, I feel like I know exactly what he contributed. I can hear it.

You can tell immediately when it's a Matt Cameron song (or if he was involved in writing) because it's schizophrenic rhythmically on guitar. In my opinion Evacuation describes his writing style. It's all over the place. I kinda wish he never joined PJ. I think they'd be a better band.
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IlluminEddie wrote:I think Matt Cameron is an OK drummer, who's style is not well suited for PJ.

As for a songwriter, just my opinion, but I think he's absolute garbage. By far the worst in the band. That said, he came up with one great tune: Cropduster. I'll give him credit for that.

The songs he's written (solo) outside of that all blow - Evacuation, You Are, Get Right and In the Moonlight.

I'll give him a bit of credit for his parts in Unemployable, Save You, and Johnny Guitar.... and even The Fixer is also mediocre (musically, lyrics suck). But, who knows how involved he was in each. To me, I feel like I know exactly what he contributed. I can hear it.

You can tell immediately when it's a Matt Cameron song (or if he was involved in writing) because it's schizophrenic rhythmically on guitar. In my opinion Evacuation describes his writing style. It's all over the place. I kinda wish he never joined PJ. I think they'd be a better band.

This made me sick to my stomach. Go away.
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Mine wrote:
Cleverman wrote:
Mine wrote:I don't know if this was mentioned before but those few reviews are in contrast with that B'OB' quote.
he seemed like a cool guy that was happy to answer fan questions.
This is the quote I'm reffering to
"If you like Pearl Jam, you'll love this. And if you haven't listened to Pearl Jam in awhile, I think it's going to bring you in. That's the whole idea."
yea, i was agreeing, but i didn't make that clear at first. sorry 8-)
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