Lightning Bolt: the official album thread

[Chris_H_2]

skinny jeans FTW

[IlluminEddie]

You think Matt's drumming has ruined PJ. That's a pretty massive divergence from 'most PJ fans'.

That's a separate argument.

We were discussing his songwriting. I believe it was you who claimed he was the best in the band. I said he's the worst. PJ fans as whole would most likely agree with me.

But clearly the 'majority' opinion isn't always right, by your own admission, so it's not evidence for anything. It's a separate argument that doesn't suit you because you can't squirm out of the contradiction.

Of course majority opinion isn't always right. But, in terms of tastes, the are often right.... particularly if they are "exposed" to all alternatives. In this case, that's why I used PJ fans as the total population.

What I'm providing evidence of is:

Matt's songs are not well liked by the over-all PJ fan base. I'm quite sure if you polled PJ fans, even one's that could name every song and every record, he would appear down the bottom of the list in terms of his "songwriting ability". That's what I'm saying. Meanwhile, you're saying he's better than the guys who wrote: Alive, Evenflow, Jeremy, Daughter, Rearviewmirror, Nothingman, Present Tense, In My Tree, Given to Fly and so on.

I find that stupid.

I doubt that, and jesus you're starting to get annoying.

So who would? Ed? Stone? Jeff? or Mike?

[HardTI]

Guys, that Town Hall thing that vedder316 found and posted is pretty cool. Has the band done a Q&A like this before?

[malice]

You think Matt's drumming has ruined PJ. That's a pretty massive divergence from 'most PJ fans'.

That's a separate argument.

We were discussing his songwriting. I believe it was you who claimed he was the best in the band. I said he's the worst. PJ fans as whole would most likely agree with me.

To be devil's advocate (and to probably wade in where I know I shouldn't be), most PJ fans don't really give a shit about this level of analysis of who wrote what.

don't worry about it, he'll just call you stupid and then you'll know you're on the right message board...

[harmless]

So, um...
Dutch reviews?

There aren't any yet. To be honest I wouldn't be writing PJ reviews if I was out on the town in the Netherlands either.

[wilkins]

Midlake and Mudhoney to open some of the tour...Q & A sounds awesome, hopefully the don't pre-screen the Qs...where're the Amster-damn reviews!?

[harmless]

Guys, that Town Hall thing that vedder316 found and posted is pretty cool. Has the band done a Q&A like this before?

Yeah it is cool. Not that I've heard. Very stylish move. It's a rare opportunity for some communication now.

[stip]

Yes, drummers learn music in a different way - via beats. They aren't note or melody inclined.

Wow, this is news to me. Because on the very first day of my 5-year-old's drum lessons, he learned whole notes, half notes, quarter notes, and eighth notes. And his teacher, who drummed for Buddy Guy for 20 years, knows a thing or two about drumming.

if his teacher was any good wouldn't he STILL be drumming for Buddy Guy?

He was a session drummer and got named director of the music school. He's making WAY more money now.

this all seems a little suspicious to me...

[HardTI]

Midlake and Mudhoney to open some of the tour...Q & A sounds awesome, hopefully the don't pre-screen the Qs...where're the Amster-damn reviews!?

Midlake, for real? I used to love those guys.

[Lounge Lizard]

So, um...
Dutch reviews?

There aren't any yet. To be honest I wouldn't be writing PJ reviews if I was out on the town in the Netherlands either.

Why not? I'd be jumping in my seat and itching to share my impressions with EVERYBODY in the wide world.

[wilkins]

"Mirella wrote on facebook that it will take a while til they are home and ready to write something about it, but that nobody of them liked Sleeping By Myself "

http://pearljam.com/news/0/1/21953/midl ... tour_dates

[harmless]

Yes, drummers learn music in a different way - via beats. They aren't note or melody inclined.

Wow, this is news to me. Because on the very first day of my 5-year-old's drum lessons, he learned whole notes, half notes, quarter notes, and eighth notes. And his teacher, who drummed for Buddy Guy for 20 years, knows a thing or two about drumming.

if his teacher was any good wouldn't he STILL be drumming for Buddy Guy?

He was a session drummer and got named director of the music school. He's making WAY more money now.

this all seems a little suspicious to me...

Why?

[Chris_H_2]

Yes, drummers learn music in a different way - via beats. They aren't note or melody inclined.

Wow, this is news to me. Because on the very first day of my 5-year-old's drum lessons, he learned whole notes, half notes, quarter notes, and eighth notes. And his teacher, who drummed for Buddy Guy for 20 years, knows a thing or two about drumming.

if his teacher was any good wouldn't he STILL be drumming for Buddy Guy?

He was a session drummer and got named director of the music school. He's making WAY more money now.

this all seems a little suspicious to me...

You're right. I made the whole thing up.

[Heathen]

"Mirella wrote on facebook that it will take a while til they are home and ready to write something about it, but that nobody of them liked Sleeping By Myself "

finally, some good news

[harmless]

So, um...
Dutch reviews?

There aren't any yet. To be honest I wouldn't be writing PJ reviews if I was out on the town in the Netherlands either.

Why not? I'd be jumping in my seat and itching to share my impressions with EVERYBODY in the wide world.

Pot cafes.

[Strat]

: Listening party Amsterdam 09/04/2013
Postby wolkenlos » Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:12 am

Mirella wrote on facebook that it will take a while til they are home and ready to write something about it, but that nobody of them liked Sleeping By Myself

[HardTI]

"Mirella wrote on facebook that it will take a while til they are home and ready to write something about it, but that nobody of them liked Sleeping By Myself "

finally, some good news

At least if the album version sucks we can replace it with the Uke version. There's no taking away the greatness of that lil beauty.

[harmless]

Yes, drummers learn music in a different way - via beats. They aren't note or melody inclined.

Wow, this is news to me. Because on the very first day of my 5-year-old's drum lessons, he learned whole notes, half notes, quarter notes, and eighth notes. And his teacher, who drummed for Buddy Guy for 20 years, knows a thing or two about drumming.

if his teacher was any good wouldn't he STILL be drumming for Buddy Guy?

He was a session drummer and got named director of the music school. He's making WAY more money now.

this all seems a little suspicious to me...

You're right. I made the whole thing up.

All of my drum teachers made good money out of session musicianship, for both small-time and professional bands and artists. They taught on the side. It's a difficult job to get into but most of them choose to be session musicians. The impression I got was that you don't stick with one artist if you want to have the best chance at a career.

[stupidmop]

: Listening party Amsterdam 09/04/2013
Postby wolkenlos » Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:12 am

Mirella wrote on facebook that it will take a while til they are home and ready to write something about it, but that nobody of them liked Sleeping By Myself

Fukin BoB

[harmless]

I'm looking forward to hearing why. I mean, I don't see how bad it can get. But I said that before SoS happened.