stip wrote:
look, if someone came out and said this was the greatest album ever, having hear mind your manners and lightning bolt, we'd all assume this was backspacer and everyone but me and 4 other people would be miserable. Instead it is apparently an album with some potentially difficult songs that were heard in a noisy bar that the people said they need some time to digest. this is also a sign that we should be discouraged, even though this is theoretically exactly the right kind of response to have to the sort of music people claim they want the band to write. It is true that this doesn't sound like LB, FD, or MYM, but I've gotten the sense from the reviews that these are, if not outliers, not indicative of the album as a whole.
I'd prefer to hear someone come out and say that this was amazing, but I've never had that reaction to a single pearl jam album on first listen, and I wouldn't expect to find that here, especially under these circumstances.
I am continuing to maintain, as I've basically done throughout, that these reviews are useful for giving us a sense of what types of songs these are, and that's it. I said that before we heard anything.
Maybe they just don't show their excitement because Germans are like that.
stip wrote:
look, if someone came out and said this was the greatest album ever, having hear mind your manners and lightning bolt, we'd all assume this was backspacer and everyone but me and 4 other people would be miserable. Instead it is apparently an album with some potentially difficult songs that were heard in a noisy bar that the people said they need some time to digest. this is also a sign that we should be discouraged, even though this is theoretically exactly the right kind of response to have to the sort of music people claim they want the band to write. It is true that this doesn't sound like LB, FD, or MYM, but I've gotten the sense from the reviews that these are, if not outliers, not indicative of the album as a whole.
I'd prefer to hear someone come out and say that this was amazing, but I've never had that reaction to a single pearl jam album on first listen, and I wouldn't expect to find that here, especially under these circumstances.
I am continuing to maintain, as I've basically done throughout, that these reviews are useful for giving us a sense of what types of songs these are, and that's it. I said that before we heard anything.
Maybe they just don't show their excitement because Germans are like that.
Seriously? You're seriously ruling out this album based on these reviews, even though we shouldn't get excited about the album based on the same reviews? I'm just trying to make sure that's what's happening.
RisingTides wrote:There is more kindness on the internet than we would care to admit to ourselves. Sometimes we are so afraid of falling victim to a ruse, we miss out on actual opportunities.
stip wrote:
look, if someone came out and said this was the greatest album ever, having hear mind your manners and lightning bolt, we'd all assume this was backspacer and everyone but me and 4 other people would be miserable. Instead it is apparently an album with some potentially difficult songs that were heard in a noisy bar that the people said they need some time to digest. this is also a sign that we should be discouraged, even though this is theoretically exactly the right kind of response to have to the sort of music people claim they want the band to write. It is true that this doesn't sound like LB, FD, or MYM, but I've gotten the sense from the reviews that these are, if not outliers, not indicative of the album as a whole.
I'd prefer to hear someone come out and say that this was amazing, but I've never had that reaction to a single pearl jam album on first listen, and I wouldn't expect to find that here, especially under these circumstances.
I am continuing to maintain, as I've basically done throughout, that these reviews are useful for giving us a sense of what types of songs these are, and that's it. I said that before we heard anything.
Maybe they just don't show their excitement because Germans are like that.
We are miserable all the time.
I searched for pictures of happy Germans and I got this:
cutuphalfdead wrote:so glad i don't see signatures
harmless wrote:Seriously? You're seriously ruling out this album based on these reviews, even though we shouldn't get excited about the album based on the same reviews? I'm just trying to make sure that's what's happening.
What? No.
Anders wrote:I do not have a «neoliberal assessment of geopolitics», so please stop writing that I do.
evenslow wrote:Is there anyone here who hasn't liked Pearl Jam for a while and feels the need to tell us?
Just looking for some original thoughts to pass the time.
RisingTides wrote:There is more kindness on the internet than we would care to admit to ourselves. Sometimes we are so afraid of falling victim to a ruse, we miss out on actual opportunities.
I think most people are assuming this album sucks without hearing it for the same reason we used to assume the new Pearl Jam album would be awesome without hearing it: recent track record.
harmless wrote:Seriously? You're seriously ruling out this album based on these reviews, even though we shouldn't get excited about the album based on the same reviews? I'm just trying to make sure that's what's happening.
I thought I might enjoy seeing the album in on this forum but I don't know at this point. It's going to be really fun for a lot of people to offer witty negative comments about it.
RisingTides wrote:There is more kindness on the internet than we would care to admit to ourselves. Sometimes we are so afraid of falling victim to a ruse, we miss out on actual opportunities.
harmless wrote:Seriously? You're seriously ruling out this album based on these reviews, even though we shouldn't get excited about the album based on the same reviews? I'm just trying to make sure that's what's happening.
What? No.
Harmless has been on edge all day. Pay no mind.
I'm just really excited to see what post 6666 has to bring.
Anders wrote:I do not have a «neoliberal assessment of geopolitics», so please stop writing that I do.
harmless wrote:I'm totally fine that this forum criticises the shit out of things, but I'm not really into criticising the shit out of music that doesn't exist to me yet.
harmless wrote:Seriously? You're seriously ruling out this album based on these reviews, even though we shouldn't get excited about the album based on the same reviews? I'm just trying to make sure that's what's happening.
What? No.
Harmless has been on edge all day. Pay no mind.
I'm just really excited to see what post 6666 has to bring.
harmless wrote:Seriously? You're seriously ruling out this album based on these reviews, even though we shouldn't get excited about the album based on the same reviews? I'm just trying to make sure that's what's happening.
What? No.
Platy raised a totally serious question. Then McP and Thodoks reaffirmed their desire to troll the album. McP will do some funny stuff. Thodoks will recycle the same 6 posts he rotates through
harmless wrote:
Seriously? You're seriously ruling out this album based on these reviews, even though we shouldn't get excited about the album based on the same reviews? I'm just trying to make sure that's what's happening.
Its funny b/c considering the listening environment, I think the reviews have been pretty positive. The only negativity has really been towards SBM, which is pretty expected.