I understand that. But it's 1 album, 2 albums tops. I'm more worried about the years those have taken than the fact of the two albums themselves.cutuphalfdead wrote:I think most people are assuming this album sucks without hearing it for the same reason we used to assume the new Pearl Jam album would be awesome without hearing it: recent track record.
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McP's posts are the only reason I don't want PJ to call it quitsstip wrote:Platy raised a totally serious question. Then McP and Thodoks reaffirmed their desire to troll the album. McP will do some funny stuff. Thodoks will recycle the same 6 posts he rotates throughtheplatypus wrote:What? No.harmless wrote:Seriously? You're seriously ruling out this album based on these reviews, even though we shouldn't get excited about the album based on the same reviews? I'm just trying to make sure that's what's happening.
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Either way, Pearl Jam's output has pretty much sucked for 7 years now. That's reason enough to be pessimistic about Lightning Bolt.harmless wrote:I understand that. But it's 1 album, 2 albums tops. I'm more worried about the years those have taken than the fact of the two albums themselves.cutuphalfdead wrote:I think most people are assuming this album sucks without hearing it for the same reason we used to assume the new Pearl Jam album would be awesome without hearing it: recent track record.
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let the records playharmless wrote:Seriously? You're seriously ruling out this album based on these reviews, even though we shouldn't get excited about the album based on the same reviews? I'm just trying to make sure that's what's happening.theplatypus wrote:Maybe they just don't show their excitement because Germans are like that.stip wrote: look, if someone came out and said this was the greatest album ever, having hear mind your manners and lightning bolt, we'd all assume this was backspacer and everyone but me and 4 other people would be miserable. Instead it is apparently an album with some potentially difficult songs that were heard in a noisy bar that the people said they need some time to digest. this is also a sign that we should be discouraged, even though this is theoretically exactly the right kind of response to have to the sort of music people claim they want the band to write. It is true that this doesn't sound like LB, FD, or MYM, but I've gotten the sense from the reviews that these are, if not outliers, not indicative of the album as a whole.
I'd prefer to hear someone come out and say that this was amazing, but I've never had that reaction to a single pearl jam album on first listen, and I wouldn't expect to find that here, especially under these circumstances.
I am continuing to maintain, as I've basically done throughout, that these reviews are useful for giving us a sense of what types of songs these are, and that's it. I said that before we heard anything.
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EJ wrote:Its funny b/c considering the listening environment, I think the reviews have been pretty positive. The only negativity has really been towards SBM, which is pretty expected.harmless wrote:
Seriously? You're seriously ruling out this album based on these reviews, even though we shouldn't get excited about the album based on the same reviews? I'm just trying to make sure that's what's happening.
yup. They've been positive without falling over themselves.
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Heathen wrote:McP's posts are the only reason I don't want PJ to call it quitsstip wrote:Platy raised a totally serious question. Then McP and Thodoks reaffirmed their desire to troll the album. McP will do some funny stuff. Thodoks will recycle the same 6 posts he rotates throughtheplatypus wrote:What? No.harmless wrote:Seriously? You're seriously ruling out this album based on these reviews, even though we shouldn't get excited about the album based on the same reviews? I'm just trying to make sure that's what's happening.
I think thodoks has or is wasting his A material on attempting second accounts....
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you've been doing good work lately too.Heathen wrote:McP's posts are the only reason I don't want PJ to call it quitsstip wrote:Platy raised a totally serious question. Then McP and Thodoks reaffirmed their desire to troll the album. McP will do some funny stuff. Thodoks will recycle the same 6 posts he rotates throughtheplatypus wrote:What? No.harmless wrote:Seriously? You're seriously ruling out this album based on these reviews, even though we shouldn't get excited about the album based on the same reviews? I'm just trying to make sure that's what's happening.
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It didn't turn out quite, quite like we hoped.--- wrote:let the records playharmless wrote:Seriously? You're seriously ruling out this album based on these reviews, even though we shouldn't get excited about the album based on the same reviews? I'm just trying to make sure that's what's happening.theplatypus wrote:Maybe they just don't show their excitement because Germans are like that.stip wrote: look, if someone came out and said this was the greatest album ever, having hear mind your manners and lightning bolt, we'd all assume this was backspacer and everyone but me and 4 other people would be miserable. Instead it is apparently an album with some potentially difficult songs that were heard in a noisy bar that the people said they need some time to digest. this is also a sign that we should be discouraged, even though this is theoretically exactly the right kind of response to have to the sort of music people claim they want the band to write. It is true that this doesn't sound like LB, FD, or MYM, but I've gotten the sense from the reviews that these are, if not outliers, not indicative of the album as a whole.
I'd prefer to hear someone come out and say that this was amazing, but I've never had that reaction to a single pearl jam album on first listen, and I wouldn't expect to find that here, especially under these circumstances.
I am continuing to maintain, as I've basically done throughout, that these reviews are useful for giving us a sense of what types of songs these are, and that's it. I said that before we heard anything.
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And like 1/3 of this album.harmless wrote:I understand that. But it's 1 album, 2 albums tops. I'm more worried about the years those have taken than the fact of the two albums themselves.cutuphalfdead wrote:I think most people are assuming this album sucks without hearing it for the same reason we used to assume the new Pearl Jam album would be awesome without hearing it: recent track record.
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Sorry, my bad. I tend to read sarcasm into all of your posts. 'Maybe Germans are just like that' sounded kind of flippant.theplatypus wrote:I'm just really excited to see what post 6666 has to bring.Strat wrote:theplatypus wrote:What? No.harmless wrote:Seriously? You're seriously ruling out this album based on these reviews, even though we shouldn't get excited about the album based on the same reviews? I'm just trying to make sure that's what's happening.
Harmless has been on edge all day. Pay no mind.
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1/4th.McParadigm wrote:And like 1/3 of this album.harmless wrote:I understand that. But it's 1 album, 2 albums tops. I'm more worried about the years those have taken than the fact of the two albums themselves.cutuphalfdead wrote:I think most people are assuming this album sucks without hearing it for the same reason we used to assume the new Pearl Jam album would be awesome without hearing it: recent track record.
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Mike wrote:
Guys, I found a snippet of the new SBM!
Ahh! I like what I'm hearing there! Regardless of whether or not it should be on the album, it's going to be a nice song.
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and MYM is a great song.
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Side not: No one mocks Germans like Craig Ferguson.
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I would really like to hear WHY people don't care for SBM
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Hearing you say this is like hearing B'OB say something is great. It means I know I'm going to hate it.stip wrote:and MYM is a great song.
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I like all of the songs we've heard so far, FD significantly less so than the other two.McParadigm wrote:And like 1/3 of this album.harmless wrote:I understand that. But it's 1 album, 2 albums tops. I'm more worried about the years those have taken than the fact of the two albums themselves.cutuphalfdead wrote:I think most people are assuming this album sucks without hearing it for the same reason we used to assume the new Pearl Jam album would be awesome without hearing it: recent track record.
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PM me.stip wrote:1/4th.McParadigm wrote:And like 1/3 of this album.harmless wrote:I understand that. But it's 1 album, 2 albums tops. I'm more worried about the years those have taken than the fact of the two albums themselves.cutuphalfdead wrote:I think most people are assuming this album sucks without hearing it for the same reason we used to assume the new Pearl Jam album would be awesome without hearing it: recent track record.
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It's not great, but it's good. It's solid. That's what I'm hoping for for this album. I'm pretty resigned to the fact that Ten through Riot act is our 7-album run of classics.cutuphalfdead wrote:Hearing you say this is like hearing B'OB say something is great. It means I know I'm going to hate it.stip wrote:and MYM is a great song.
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I think it's the best non-cover in Uke Dongs. I like it a lot. I'm guessing people don't like the full-band version because it probably feels redundant.stip wrote:I would really like to hear WHY people don't care for SBM
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