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tragabigzanda wrote:
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Chris_H_2 wrote:trag, are you making the noodles?
not for my first outing, just want to get the broth and mayu right before I tackle those
please change the title of the thread
I was waiting for this fair and accurate criticism. Keeping the thread title because I will get there.
Ha. Just giving you shit.

By the way, I made a beef pho last week. Beef bones. Boiled ground beef. Unbelievable umami. I’ve never used star anise before.
Post/link the recipe! I make a veggie pho pretty regularly that is amazing. It also has star anise. Also cinnamon stick.
here you go:

broth
1 lb 85% lean ground beef
2 lbs beef blade bones
2 onions (quartered through the root end)
12 cups of low-sodium beef broth
1/4 fish sauce
1 piece of ginger sliced into thin rounds
1 cinnamon stick
2 tbs of sugar
6 star anise pods
6 whole cloves
1 tsp black peppercorns

garnishes
1 boneless strip steak
14-16 ounces of rice noodles (1/8 inch wide)
1/3 cup of cilantro
3 scallions, sliced thinly
bean sprouts
thai basil
lime wedges
hoisin sauce (optional)
sriracha sauce (optional)

1. Break ground beef into rough 1-inch chunks and drop in Dutch oven with beef bones. Add water to cover by 1 inch. Bring mixture to boil over high heat. Boil for 2 minutes, stirring once or twice. Drain ground beef and bones in colander and rinse well under running water. Wash out pot and return ground beef and bones to pot.

2. Place 6 onion quarters in pot with ground beef and bones. Slice remaining 2 onion quarters as thin as possible and set aside for garnish. Add broth, 2 cups water, fish sauce, ginger, cinnamon, sugar, star anise, cloves, 2 teaspoons salt, and peppercorns to pot and bring to boil over high heat. Reduce heat to medium-low and simmer, partially covered, for 45 minutes.

3. Pour broth through colander set in large bowl. Discard solids. Strain broth through fine-mesh strainer lined with triple thickness of cheesecloth; add water as needed to equal 11 cups. Return broth to pot and season with extra sugar and salt (broth should taste over-seasoned). Cover and keep warm over low heat.

4. While broth simmers, place steak on large plate and freeze until very firm, 35 to 45 minutes. Once firm, cut against grain into 1/8-inch-thick slices. Return steak to plate and refrigerate until needed.

5. Place noodles in large container and cover with hot tap water. Soak until noodles are pliable, 10 to 15 minutes; drain noodles. Meanwhile, bring 4 quarts water to boil in large pot. Add drained noodles and cook until almost tender, 30 to 60 seconds. Drain immediately and divide noodles among individual bowls.

6. Bring broth to rolling boil over high heat. Divide steak among individual bowls, shingling slices on top of noodles. Pile reserved onion slices on top of steak slices and sprinkle with cilantro and scallions, if using. Ladle hot broth into each bowl. Serve immediately, passing bean sprouts, basil sprigs, lime wedges, hoisin, Sriracha, and extra fish sauce separately.
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A thread within a thread. I love it.
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tragabigzanda wrote:Thanks Chris! Are those blade bones for flavor or texture (via collagen)?
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I will say I’ve done it with and without the bones. I prefer with, but it’s not fatal to the recipe. Plus it’s cheaper if you skip.
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YES

i’m a pillow of your bones
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i mean - you can’t just whip up spaghetti alla chitarra and give it a whirl?
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that might taste weird because of the durum? but i don't really know.
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the noodle is everything

email David Chang he will have guidance
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Chang knows to cook the Ramen al dente

he mentioned in his first book most places boil them to mush

treat them like you want an al dente pasta
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odds of me heating up one of my frozen Costco ramen bowls this evening to cope with fomo => approaching 90%
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tragabigzanda wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Why not merge though? What is it about you making it that makes it special enough for a thread? Once you make it, does it get locked? Will it have no point moving forward?
because it's fairly challenging recipe and if i blaze the trail to a successful destination, my journey may inspire others
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costco ramen is in the microwave

i will create a separate thread to document that process
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tragabigzanda wrote:Bones are clean:

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Cleaning the trotters was super easy, just followed Kenji's directions and had no problems. The chicken carcasses were trickier because it was much more difficult what I was supposed to keep and what I was supposed to lose. After trimming the skin and excess fat, then boiling, I started picking at them with a chopstick. Ultimately I found that gravity was really helpful: while picking away under cold running water, some stuff would reveal its tendency to fall off, and by simply rotating the cut the same thing would happen again.

Everything's in the fridge now and ready for tomorrow morning. Also forgot to mention that I couldn't find fat back, but it seems like pork belly is a common substitute in that scenario, so that's what I'll be using.
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