Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

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Well?

Loved it - among the best Star Wars Movies
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8%
Really liked it, but not one of the best
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18%
Liked it - it's Star Wars
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27%
Ehhh
21
34%
I miss the prequels
8
13%
 
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VinylGuy wrote:Guys, how can Colin name a movie after an already song title?

Weird.
First indication that the truth of the matter is highly suspect. Like dime said, it reads like fan wish fulfillment.

To others' points though there are some interesting ideas within. I was always in favor of Kylo being the Big Bad of 9. I was always in favor of Luke "haunting" Kylo. I was always in favor of Rey being "no-one". There's a lot there that is interesting to me.
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yeah, the story is interesting.

Another point on favor of ¨its a lie¨....colin making a cool sequel? No way.
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VinylGuy wrote:yeah, the story is interesting.

Another point on favor of ¨its a lie¨....colin making a cool sequel? No way.
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:Sounds absolutely terrible, so glad we got this wonderful insanity instead
I love how LV got to a point were he trashes the movie in an elegant way.
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VinylGuy wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Sounds absolutely terrible, so glad we got this wonderful insanity instead
I love how LV got to a point were he trashes the movie in an elegant way.

He genuinely loves it he just can’t come out n say it. It would be totally off brand. And I respect the hell out of him for that.
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dimejinky99 wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Sounds absolutely terrible, so glad we got this wonderful insanity instead
I love how LV got to a point were he trashes the movie in an elegant way.
He genuinely loves it he just can’t come out n say it. It would be totally off brand. And I respect the hell out of him for that.
My first post after I saw it was declaring that I loved it!
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I know :)


I wanna go back n find my first reaction. I can’t remember it.

Which is odd coz I remember tfa and tlj and rogue one reactions clearly
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He likes it because it's stupid and made him laugh.
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And its insane.

Its such a mind fuck to dime, i feel bad about this.
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dimejinky99 wrote:
stip wrote:i think that alleged treverrow story is so much better. that sounds great and far more effectively builds off the first two movies in a consistent way

Stip. it’s fan fiction.
It’s also beat for beat the other ending for return of the Jedi. Doubt me look up rinzlers making of ROTJ book.

Force ghost obi wan and yoda turn up to help Luke against Palpatine.

It’s bullshit. I would love to have seen it too but it robs Rey of her purpose and agency (hehe) if ghosts are doing it for her
instead of that incomprehensible mess at the end of Rise of Skywalker?


I’m not saying treverrow would have made a better movie - abrams is the better director and rise of skywalker has good performances and looks great. but almost all my issues with rise of skywalker are story related and this sounds good. if i end up with time in the next few days Ill say more about why i think that is.
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The thought of a long, detailed post criticizing the problems in this movie’s story is deeply funny to me
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:The thought of a long, detailed post criticizing the problems in this movie’s story is deeply funny to me
Would you say such a post is "so bad it's good?"
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I voted liked it, btw.

Thoughts about the Trevorrow alleged script, based on what I read here:

https://collider.com/star-wars-9-colin- ... t-details/


1. Duel of the Fates is a better title - although not a good title. Most star wars titles aren't very good regardless so that doesn't matter much, but Rise of Skywalker is one of the worst.

(as an aside, I really didn't like that ending. Rey adopting the name skywalker for herself was fine, especially given the way the movie walks back TLJ elements although her relationship with luke was troubled. Calling herself Organa would have made more sense. And returning to tatooine made no sense. Leia wasn't from there, and Luke didn't like it there)

2. I like that the opening crawl focuses on the First Order's consolidation of control, punishing dissent, and silencing communication. This works much better for me than a pivot back to the returning emperor, who wasn't needed (Kylo should be your main villain), and comes from out of nowhere. If the prior two movies provided any sort of hint that Palps was behind this, even ones you could go back and read into the story, it would work better. But this is a villian ex machina, and one that wasn't needed when Kylo Ren is around, and arguably the most interesting character in the Star Wars universe.

3. I like that the story seems to give Finn more to do and adds Rose back in. I liked their dynamic, and I wasn't a fan of adding new supporting characters, almost none of whom had much to do or time to be fleshed out - and we had enough principle characters that they werne't necessary.

4. A heist to steal weapons feels like exactly the kind of thing a scrappy rebellion should be doing

5. I like that uniting the galaxy to fight is a major plot arc, rather than something that lando and chewie do off screen in an impossibly short amount of time

6. I love the idea of Finn leading a group of defecting stormtroopers - this ties in so well into his existing story and the ground the films have covered about who becomes stormtroopers, and why. Something similar made its way into Rise of Skywalker with the horse people on Endor, but that never felt like an organic part of the story - just an interesting idea that you'd have to explore in supplementary material. And it also happened independent of Finn, rather than having him spark it in some way

7. I like the idea of Rey deciding to continue to train a new generation of Jedi at the end of the film, which makes Luke's propehcy that he will not be the last jedi much more powerful

8. I get what they were trying to do with Kylo in Rise of Skywalker, and his redemption worked as well as it could have in that story and without Carrie Fisher to play her obviously intended role. But Star Wars rewards redemption way too easily, and Kylo is probably a better character if he isn't redeemed - that Rey never gives up on him says more about her.

9. Not sure I like Kylo killing Rey's parents

10. I like all the Jedi trying to redeem kylo in the end and failing - I'm fine with the mystical assists - I would have preferred to see force ghosts of the characters I really knew and cared about - if that's what it would have been - over the extended universe name dropping we got (which was fine as it goes except it is muddled by the confusing emperor stuff).

11. As the article points out - this makes the central conflict the battle for Kylo's soul, which is what this should have been. And I like that it has the guts to seemingly not redeem him.


These all seem like great choices. Not sure what Poe is doing in all this based on the notes that are here, but I like this a LOT more as story beats. Maybe the dialogue wouldn't work, and Abrams probably gets better performances out of the actors and shoots a better looking movie. But I wish he used this script.
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Kylo is completely the wrong age to hav killed her parents. He’d have to be like 7 to it to match up right
So treverow didn’t even check the timeline around the films just before his?
Seriously?
Do we still really believe that’s a legit script?

Seriously?
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Well we just know Rey's parents abandoned her - he could have been sent to find and kill them during TLJ although you're right - still not sure when exactly this happens.

This was allegedly a 2016 draft, so who knows when and how that changes based on the final product of TLJ
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dime at this point where does rise sit with you compared to the other films (open question to all)
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stip wrote:dime at this point where does rise sit with you compared to the other films (open question to all)
TFA is probably still the most soulless and AotC the most incompetent, but this one is probably the worst.
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stip wrote:dime at this point where does rise sit with you compared to the other films (open question to all)
I’m not sure?
It’s so much fun in the same way TFA is. But it’s easily the most emotional And full of feels film possibly of the whole saga. And I live for that stuff. Punched in the guts and how leia and han. And Luke? Perfect in it.
I feel it bookends and completes this trilogy so well. And given time when it settles all three will reveal themselves. Or not. I’m pretty sure they will for me.
TLJ is the best most challenging and nourishing film of this trilogy. Better made and more interesting. Tfa and this aren’t throwaway whizz pop bang but those elements of them are just pure Star Wars for me. Fun. As Star Wars should be.

I am genetically unable to rank Star Wars films. My favourite any given day is the one I feel like watching. But I’m really happy with what we got. It’s flawed obviously. There’s a couple of scenes I’d cut out totally. I wish we’d gotten Anakin in ghost form. It’s my only gripe about it. Or even him and Ben appearing with leia and Luke.

Other than that I love it.
Bear in mind it’s only been a month. Let’s see how it stands up when we get it at home and watch all three together.

That’s what I’m really looking forward to.
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Grosses
DOMESTIC (48.1%)
$481,307,423
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$1,001,007,423

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It’s still got 100 days to go domestically.
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