Drifting's not on Tentragabigzanda wrote:Nah. If he just sang it in a lower register, with no reverb, and no breathiness, it could be great.McParadigm wrote:No production choices would resolve the vocal delivery in that song. An Around the Bend arrangement plus a different singer might result in something good
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is it too late to re-request this as the new album single?
ugh
who am i fucking kidding
ugh
ugh
who am i fucking kidding
ugh
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i've always preferred the higher-register driftin'. in fact i think i like most of the lost dogs versions of all those tracks more than the original versions.
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LD Alone is an abomination.WtOB? wrote:i've always preferred the higher-register driftin'. in fact i think i like most of the lost dogs versions of all those tracks more than the original versions.
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I don't know about all of them, but I've always liked the Alone from LD better than the original, crazy I know.WtOB? wrote:i've always preferred the higher-register driftin'. in fact i think i like most of the lost dogs versions of all those tracks more than the original versions.
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i listened to CDM this morning for the first time since maybe a month or so after it came out. This was just a misfire on so many levels
I do love that again today cover that came out at around the same time
I do love that again today cover that came out at around the same time
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the original has that awful "snakes in a panic" line, i prefer krusen's drumming and i like the shortened second verse better.arthurdent wrote:LD Alone is an abomination.WtOB? wrote:i've always preferred the higher-register driftin'. in fact i think i like most of the lost dogs versions of all those tracks more than the original versions.
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that's the spirit!Leatherhead wrote:I don't know about all of them, but I've always liked the Alone from LD better than the original, crazy I know.WtOB? wrote:i've always preferred the higher-register driftin'. in fact i think i like most of the lost dogs versions of all those tracks more than the original versions.
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if it ends up being just a throw-away stand-alone single, i'm ok with it. plus eddie slammin that cowbell while he sings is sorta cutestip wrote:i listened to CDM this morning for the first time since maybe a month or so after it came out. This was just a misfire on so many levels
I do love that again today cover that came out at around the same time
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There's two "original" versions, though:WtOB? wrote:the original has that awful "snakes in a panic" line, i prefer krusen's drumming and i like the shortened second verse better.arthurdent wrote:LD Alone is an abomination.WtOB? wrote:i've always preferred the higher-register driftin'. in fact i think i like most of the lost dogs versions of all those tracks more than the original versions.
1. the 1991 recording with Krusen, recorded during the Ten sessions but never released;
2. the 1992 recording with Abbruzzese released on the Go single.
Recording 1 was used as the basis for the LD version with new Ed vocals.
This is one of my favourite Pearl Jam songs and I think recording 1 is easily the best studio recording of the song. I'm not sure why Ed felt the need to redo the vocals, they were fine.
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what the crap i always thought it was "shakes in a panic"WtOB? wrote:the original has that awful "snakes in a panic" line, i prefer krusen's drumming and i like the shortened second verse better.arthurdent wrote:LD Alone is an abomination.WtOB? wrote:i've always preferred the higher-register driftin'. in fact i think i like most of the lost dogs versions of all those tracks more than the original versions.
i guess that was too logical
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It is "shakes" - well, originally it was.bodysnatcher wrote:what the crap i always thought it was "shakes in a panic"WtOB? wrote:the original has that awful "snakes in a panic" line, i prefer krusen's drumming and i like the shortened second verse better.arthurdent wrote:LD Alone is an abomination.WtOB? wrote:i've always preferred the higher-register driftin'. in fact i think i like most of the lost dogs versions of all those tracks more than the original versions.
i guess that was too logical
1991 recording (unreleased but on the "Rarities and Unreleased Cuts" internal Epic promo): "shakes in a panic"
1992 recording (Go single): "shakes in a panic"
1991/2003 hybrid recording (Lost Dogs): "snakes in a panic" (?!)
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There's another bizarre lyrical quirk about the song: there's a line in the second verse which, on the original recordings and all of the live versions from that period, is "anything to get his off of the coals".
On the Lost Dogs version, not only did they cut out the rest of that verse and jump straight to the next chorus (shortening the overall song), but Ed also bafflingly seems to have changed the line to: "anything to get his heart off of Nicole" - which is what's reflected on the PearlJam.com official lyrics!
I presume everyone remembers this but there was a time in the mid 2000s when Pearl Jam, who previously didn't have any official lyrics on the website, did a significant website update which included the addition of lyrics for most studio recordings by the band. The problem with this is that the lyrics are full of errors and mistakes and I believe were copied wholesale from fan websites. One of those "errors" is the "Nicole" lyric in Alone, which has now in a bizarre turn of events become retrospectively official as Ed now sings that lyric, even though he didn't before.
I genuinely suspect he couldn't remember the original lyrics when he went to re-record the song for Lost Dogs and found some online, including errors, and somehow decided he'd just roll with them - and has ever since!
They played Alone until Abbruzzese left the band in 1994 and didn't come back to it until the Vote for Change tour in 2004, around the release of Lost Dogs. Since it returned to the live sets, Ed has resolutely stuck to singing "Nicole" and cutting short the second verse. From a quick review of live tracks in my iTunes:
Boston 1991: "the coals" (full second verse)
Copenhagen 1992: "the coals" (full second verse)
Boston (Orpheum Theatre) 1994: "the coals" (full second verse)
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St Louis 2004: "Nicole" (shortened second verse)
Prague 2006: "Nicole" (shortened second verse)
Los Angeles 2009: "Nicole" (shortened second verse)
Memphis 2014: "Nicole" (shortened second verse)
Wrigley 2018: "Nicole" (shortened second verse)
On the Lost Dogs version, not only did they cut out the rest of that verse and jump straight to the next chorus (shortening the overall song), but Ed also bafflingly seems to have changed the line to: "anything to get his heart off of Nicole" - which is what's reflected on the PearlJam.com official lyrics!
I presume everyone remembers this but there was a time in the mid 2000s when Pearl Jam, who previously didn't have any official lyrics on the website, did a significant website update which included the addition of lyrics for most studio recordings by the band. The problem with this is that the lyrics are full of errors and mistakes and I believe were copied wholesale from fan websites. One of those "errors" is the "Nicole" lyric in Alone, which has now in a bizarre turn of events become retrospectively official as Ed now sings that lyric, even though he didn't before.
I genuinely suspect he couldn't remember the original lyrics when he went to re-record the song for Lost Dogs and found some online, including errors, and somehow decided he'd just roll with them - and has ever since!
They played Alone until Abbruzzese left the band in 1994 and didn't come back to it until the Vote for Change tour in 2004, around the release of Lost Dogs. Since it returned to the live sets, Ed has resolutely stuck to singing "Nicole" and cutting short the second verse. From a quick review of live tracks in my iTunes:
Boston 1991: "the coals" (full second verse)
Copenhagen 1992: "the coals" (full second verse)
Boston (Orpheum Theatre) 1994: "the coals" (full second verse)
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St Louis 2004: "Nicole" (shortened second verse)
Prague 2006: "Nicole" (shortened second verse)
Los Angeles 2009: "Nicole" (shortened second verse)
Memphis 2014: "Nicole" (shortened second verse)
Wrigley 2018: "Nicole" (shortened second verse)
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That is somehow the most believable EV theory I have heard
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wow. feels like we’re living in the truman show.
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I can't tell you how long I've wanted to make an in-depth post about this, I'm thrilled to have finally found the opportunity.
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i am excited for you, and the opportunity we have here, to amend lyrics we dont like
just have hack those fan sites and change them
just have hack those fan sites and change them
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