tragabigzanda wrote:
Seriously man. Would it be any better if there were a key change, or if it were through-composed, of is they threw in a false cadence or something? Sounds like you're trying to intellectualize a reason to hate it after first listing all the things you like about it.
You may notice that the things I liked about it don't really have to do with the songwriting
Anders wrote:I do not have a «neoliberal assessment of geopolitics», so please stop writing that I do.
I hate almost everything the band has done for the last 15 years and I like this song. Ignore Jorge's quibbles and follow me to find your true authentic self.
I’m in a bit of a state of shock at the moment. I had given up hope on a new Tool album and they blew it out the park, and I was nearing that point with PJ and we get this, which I love, just months later. I’m amped.
5/10 and I think I’m being nice. I don’t want to be too negative. I liked the ending. I wish the song was a bit more subtle in its production. Could be great live.
Ed has kinda lost the plot. I have been listening to 77 from talking heads a fair bit over the last few years. so I really struggled with the vocal delivery. He’s trying a bit too hard. I’m excited to see what other suprises are on this album.
I don’t think it has much replay value. and maybe be about as cool as backspacer this time next year.
tragabigzanda wrote:Plat, don't listen to this with your Elvis Costello brain; try listening with your Bill Frissell brain, if that makes sense.
Bill Frisell, one of the greatest jazz melodists working today, that Bill Frisell?
lol i don't give a fuck about Frisell's approach to melody, I don't find it particularly amazing. I like the atmosphere of his recordings and interplay between musicians (and silent spaces). So that was more what I was referring to.
It sounds like you're directing me to listen for feel and texture rather than the things I enjoy most about music, which are melody, harmony and rhythm; and I can listen to music that emphasizes those things, but if there's nothing in the other departments that's grabbing me, it's going to slip from my grip. My favorite Pearl Jam songs are my favorites because I think they're great compositions. This ain't it
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Anders wrote:I do not have a «neoliberal assessment of geopolitics», so please stop writing that I do.
This song has me completely excited 100%. I haven’t felt this way in 15 years or so about Pearl Jam. This is the first sign in a decade and a half that they have a different musical direction to pursue. I’m stoked. Wherever this leads, it’s definitively a new direction. That’s what we’ve been begging for. Guess what, we fucking got it. If Jeff is genuinely excited about the direction of the band, I am too. There is so much to be excited about this song. It could have gone a few ways, mostly bad, but somehow Pearl Jam found a way to surprise again. Stand back when the spirit comes. Stand back!
