Dance of the Clairvoyants

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Initial Thoughts

I just fell in love all over again
100
38%
Maybe there's still some life left in these guys after all
140
54%
Ehhh, still excited for the new album
8
3%
I stayed up for this?
10
4%
I hated pearl jam before it was cool
3
1%
 
Total votes: 261

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Re: Dance of the Clairvoyants

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lecherouslittlestump wrote:Can we look at this song objectiely for a second?

It's been 7 years since the last PJ album and I know you all have huge throbbing glistening vascular hard-ons for new music.

But when the hyped has died down and the dust has died down, can we not all agree that this song is fucking ass?

- Crappy keyboard synths which have no business been anywhere near a rock band like PJ
- Vedder sounds bad - admit it, he hasn't sang well since 06
- Tinny drums
- Batshit stupid lyrics about throbbing vascular dicks
- Too long and repetitive
- Brickwalled to shit ("bUt tHeReS a NeW pRoDuCeR duuuuuur")
- The worst title in PJ memory
You wrote earlier in the thread that it was their best song since Vitalogy.
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I think he might actually use all 3: fire, file, and finer

The last one definitely sounded like finer.
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Anders wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
mikejasond wrote:Here’s a question

If this was a new band and not a pearl jam song

Would you still like it ?
What are you getting at here?

I like Leper Messiah by Metallica. But if The Dixie Chicks performed it I probably wouldn't like it.
If everything else in your life was the same, but Pearl Jam didn’t exist. This was still a forum, and you had as many posts.

Now a new band came along. Pearl Jam. Guys in their 50s. Their first single was posted in Other Bands. Would you like it the same?
Stupid question. But absolutely.
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scrub12 wrote: Even Tim wants to forget CDM.
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Leatherhead wrote:
Anders wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
mikejasond wrote:Here’s a question

If this was a new band and not a pearl jam song

Would you still like it ?
What are you getting at here?

I like Leper Messiah by Metallica. But if The Dixie Chicks performed it I probably wouldn't like it.
If everything else in your life was the same, but Pearl Jam didn’t exist. This was still a forum, and you had as many posts.

Now a new band came along. Pearl Jam. Guys in their 50s. Their first single was posted in Other Bands. Would you like it the same?
Stupid question. But absolutely.
I think he is implying that you wouldn’t. But I agree with you. I listen to new music all the time, and I know I would love this song from a new band.
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3rd listen and I think I genuinely like this song.
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Anders wrote:
Leatherhead wrote:
Anders wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
mikejasond wrote:Here’s a question

If this was a new band and not a pearl jam song

Would you still like it ?
What are you getting at here?

I like Leper Messiah by Metallica. But if The Dixie Chicks performed it I probably wouldn't like it.
If everything else in your life was the same, but Pearl Jam didn’t exist. This was still a forum, and you had as many posts.

Now a new band came along. Pearl Jam. Guys in their 50s. Their first single was posted in Other Bands. Would you like it the same?
Stupid question. But absolutely.
I think he is implying that you wouldn’t. But I agree with you. I listen to new music all the time, and I know I would love this song from a new band.

Black Rebel Motorcycle Club would do this song realllllllllllll good.
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lecherouslittlestump wrote:Can we look at this song objectiely for a second?

It's been 7 years since the last PJ album and I know you all have huge throbbing glistening vascular hard-ons for new music.

But when the hyped has died down and the dust has died down, can we not all agree that this song is fucking ass?

- Crappy keyboard synths which have no business been anywhere near a rock band like PJ
- Vedder sounds bad - admit it, he hasn't sang well since 06
- Tinny drums
- Batshit stupid lyrics about throbbing vascular dicks
- Too long and repetitive
- Brickwalled to shit ("bUt tHeReS a NeW pRoDuCeR duuuuuur")
- The worst title in PJ memory
I don't agree with any of above.
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Dev wrote:3rd listen and I think I genuinely like this song.
I bet its gonna sound so dope in my headphones while shredding pow
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Clem Halibut wrote:
lecherouslittlestump wrote:Can we look at this song objectiely for a second?

It's been 7 years since the last PJ album and I know you all have huge throbbing glistening vascular hard-ons for new music.

But when the hyped has died down and the dust has died down, can we not all agree that this song is fucking ass?

- Crappy keyboard synths which have no business been anywhere near a rock band like PJ
- Vedder sounds bad - admit it, he hasn't sang well since 06
- Tinny drums
- Batshit stupid lyrics about throbbing vascular dicks
- Too long and repetitive
- Brickwalled to shit ("bUt tHeReS a NeW pRoDuCeR duuuuuur")
- The worst title in PJ memory
I don't agree with any of above.
Don't worry, neither does he/she
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McParadigm wrote:After a few listens today, it does seem like it benefits from Ed having something he feels the need to see overcome. For all the experimentation, that’s the actual “return to form” feeling here. The balance of anger/despair and raw determination is the most Pearl Jam element of this song, and something that hasn’t felt...present? Authentic? Or just like an honest creative guide? For a while.
Definitely this. I can actually sorta picture a younger Ed all pissed off while singing this song.
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Sometimes he’s hilarious, but it’s very hit and miss.
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Anders wrote:What does he mean with:

I know the girls wanna dance
away their circumstance
I know the boys wanna grow
Their dicks and file things
I don't know but I just got a tattoo idea.

#Imreal
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Are people gonna bring inflatable dicks to the shows?
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Ed: “I’ll write a line about how male culture is built on a need to exhibit control, and how in a world of limitless awe they’re busy obsessing about their dicks.”

RM: “ha ha dicks you guys it says dicks it says dickssssss”
(patriotic choking noises)
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here's a reality check regarding the different production styles: listen to DOTC immediately followed by Can't Deny Me. It's like night and day. I knew it was bad, but I can't believe how overly produced the latter (and frankly everything in the past 15 years) is.
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Homeboyd wrote:Are people gonna bring inflatable dicks to the shows?
They are now.
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McParadigm wrote:
Clem Halibut wrote:seem to be a poke at men wanting fire things ...aka guns
That seems like a topic for another song.
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liebzz wrote:So according to that poll on top RM is not divided on this song and everyone feels pretty positive for the most part...

On the other hand, I can’t go on Facebook today with all the whining and carrying on about how terrible the song is. I guess this truly is a vacuum outside the prototypical fan base.
I feel oddly vindicated. Someone, somewhere, who isn't me, loves Lightning Bolt and Backspacer
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mikejasond wrote:Here’s a question

If this was a new band and not a pearl jam song

Would you still like it ?
that's impossible to answer. Certainly not as much. I have a relationship with the band and especially with Eddie's voice that means everything is judged on a different scale.

But maybe. Mark lanegan has been producing a lot of music in this wheelhouse, and his voice carried me into songs I would have otherwise not considered.
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