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Donald Trump (R)
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44%
Joe Biden (D)
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41%
Jacob Hornberger (L)
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1%
Howie Hawkins (G)
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1%
Other
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1%
COVID-19
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tragabigzanda wrote:I’ve read that Warren has been slowly building a powerhouse support mechanism for Iowa, so I think we’ll see attacks on Bernie, and pro-Warren pieces saying “she’s really stayed the course, is a progressive candidate who knows how to reach across the aisle, is a strong choice for women...”

Or basically all the things they should be saying about her.

Warren was cancelled. Do you even twitter bro?
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Warren got the Des Moines Register Mail endorsement. Usually that provides a bump.
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In Bloom:

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/2 ... dnc-106712



Also, LOL at the progressive group being called the PCCC. What were they trying to mirror?
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verb_to_trust wrote:Warren got the Des Moines Register Mail endorsement. Usually that provides a bump.
But Clinton got that endorsement and Obama still won. So it's not really that big of a bump.
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tragabigzanda wrote:I’ve read that Warren has been slowly building a powerhouse support mechanism for Iowa, so I think we’ll see attacks on Bernie, and pro-Warren pieces saying “she’s really stayed the course, is a progressive candidate who knows how to reach across the aisle, is a strong choice for women...”

Or basically all the things they should be saying about her.
Everyone who knows anything about all of this has said that Warren has had the most impressive on-the-ground team/campaign in place since the beginning. What she's doing in Iowa (and has been since the jump) along with the aforementioned endorsement doesn't SEEM to mean much right now. Fingers crossed but I don't have a good feeling about her chances. Chalk another one up for verb's favorite team.
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I was disappointed to see Warren engage in dirty politics with Sanders, especially on the debate stage, after agreeing not to do so. Highly doubtful that Sanders said a female couldn't win, unless it was taken out of context.
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Iholdthepain wrote:I was disappointed to see Warren engage in dirty politics with Sanders, especially on the debate stage, after agreeing not to do so.
Not sure I agree with you 100% on your police work there, Lou
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durdencommatyler wrote:
Iholdthepain wrote:I was disappointed to see Warren engage in dirty politics with Sanders, especially on the debate stage, after agreeing not to do so.
Not sure I agree with you 100% on your police work there, Lou
no police work, just what I saw and heard with my eyes and ears.

I like Warren, but the ending of the last debate, and the accusations that came out of left field just beforehand. What am I missing, Joe?
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Iholdthepain wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Iholdthepain wrote:I was disappointed to see Warren engage in dirty politics with Sanders, especially on the debate stage, after agreeing not to do so.
Not sure I agree with you 100% on your police work there, Lou
no police work, just what I saw and heard with my eyes and ears.

I like Warren, but the ending of the last debate, and the accusations that came out of left field just beforehand. What am I missing, Joe?
I think blaming Warren for "engaging in dirty politics with Sanders" isn't pretty off the mark. But your eyes and ears tell you differently. Don't listen to me, man.
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durdencommatyler wrote:
Iholdthepain wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Iholdthepain wrote:I was disappointed to see Warren engage in dirty politics with Sanders, especially on the debate stage, after agreeing not to do so.
Not sure I agree with you 100% on your police work there, Lou
no police work, just what I saw and heard with my eyes and ears.

I like Warren, but the ending of the last debate, and the accusations that came out of left field just beforehand. What am I missing, Joe?
I think blaming Warren for "engaging in dirty politics with Sanders" isn't pretty off the mark. But your eyes and ears tell you differently. Don't listen to me, man.
so you're saying I'm pretty close to the mark... or was that a typo?

The accusation was so random, and obviously came from the Warren camp. She then approached him and started berating him on national tv. I'd call that dirty, unneccesary, and against their pact not to do such a thing. I still have high respect for Warren. I can only assume it was a panic move due to polling numbers... Who knows?!
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typo, duh

I don't think it came from the Warren camp at all and I think the way she handled it was pretty fantastic.
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durdencommatyler wrote:typo, duh

I don't think it came from the Warren camp at all and I think the way she handled it was pretty fantastic.
Who else could it have possibly come from unless Bernie reverse engineered the whole thing?
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verb_to_trust wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:typo, duh

I don't think it came from the Warren camp at all and I think the way she handled it was pretty fantastic.
Who else could it have possibly come from unless Bernie reverse engineered the whole thing?
Biden, Buttigieg, or someone from the right.
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verb_to_trust wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:typo, duh

I don't think it came from the Warren camp at all and I think the way she handled it was pretty fantastic.
Who else could it have possibly come from unless Bernie reverse engineered the whole thing?
McP went over all of this at length when it happened.

Alternatively, the DNC. Plenty on team Bernie have posited this theory.

But there are plenty of other options.
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durdencommatyler wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:typo, duh

I don't think it came from the Warren camp at all and I think the way she handled it was pretty fantastic.
Who else could it have possibly come from unless Bernie reverse engineered the whole thing?
McP went over all of this at length when it happened.

Alternatively, the DNC. Plenty on team Bernie have posited this theory.

But there are plenty of other options.
Can you quote the post? Who else was even in the room?
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verb_to_trust wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:typo, duh

I don't think it came from the Warren camp at all and I think the way she handled it was pretty fantastic.
Who else could it have possibly come from unless Bernie reverse engineered the whole thing?
McP went over all of this at length when it happened.

Alternatively, the DNC. Plenty on team Bernie have posited this theory.

But there are plenty of other options.
Can you quote the post? Who else was even in the room?
Jump back to page 153 or so. There's more but here's one sample:
McParadigm wrote:Nobody yet knows where it comes from. But the only people with no angle to gain from this story are Warren and Biden. And six months ago, there was a story full of similarly anonymous leakers claiming OTHER candidates were ramping up oppo efforts against Pete that turned out...to have been put out there by Pete.
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Warren stood/stands nothing to gain from this. And if anything it's only hurt her campaign. There's just no way this came from her team.
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Yup. I don't think it came from Sanders either because despite him polling really well right now, it didn't make him look good.
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cutuphalfdead wrote:Yup. I don't think it came from Sanders either because despite him polling really well right now, it didn't make him look good.
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It’s just that no one has explained how the details of a private meeting would end up in the hands of... (whatever outfit might’ve leaked it). It’s water under the bridge at this point tho.
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