I don't think I could disagree with this more. There may not be a Pearl Jam album IMO with more songs where the live versions, as good as they are, never matched the studio versions. Off the top of my head, as much as half the record could fall under that category.mikejasond wrote:While sometimes true, I don't think that's ever MORE true than Binaural. Songs that are standouts live like Grievance make no impact on the album at all. If you compare the live versions of an album to the studio versions, NO album would benefit more than Binaural.liebzz wrote:I feel the exact opposite of this.
Instead, I would have loved to get a second album consisting of the b-sides that didn’t make this album.
Otherwise, this album is phenomenal and might be the one album where they utilized Matt Cameron perfectly. I do think they did pull back from the full experiment, well documented on RM, but the songs are tremendous. It also generally holds that the songs on every Pearl Jam album sound better live at least during the time period where the album was released.
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Instead, I would have loved to get a second album consisting of the b-sides that didn’t make this album.
Otherwise, this album is phenomenal and might be the one album where they utilized Matt Cameron perfectly. I do think they did pull back from the full experiment, well documented on RM, but the songs are tremendous. It also generally holds that the songs on every Pearl Jam album sound better live at least during the time period where the album was released.
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Glad to see some good opinions on Binaural after those few scary posts about it not being top tier Pearl Jam.
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Just finished a listen through. The only song I wanted to skip was Evacuation. Ed's screaming just hasn't aged well for me on that song. But other than that, this is a near-perfect record. Just behind Vitalogy for me, and my love for that may be more nostalgic than anything.
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Evacuation is top tier for me. Love everything about it and just a riot to play on guitar.E.H. Ruddock wrote:Just finished a listen through. The only song I wanted to skip was Evacuation. Ed's screaming just hasn't aged well for me on that song. But other than that, this is a near-perfect record. Just behind Vitalogy for me, and my love for that may be more nostalgic than anything.
Honestly, There is no flaw on this record for me. I loved it from the beginning and its only gotten better with age. People complain about the production but its such a singular experience in their catalogue. I never once felt the hard songs were neutered. They are so atmospheric and precise at the same time. The playing is just outstanding on this record.
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That's the problem with all of Matt's songs. They are songs for musicians. I don't think general music consumers have the ability to understand or enjoy them.Strat wrote:Evacuation is top tier for me. Love everything about it and just a riot to play on guitar.
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for me it has all to do with Eddie's singing. It's fine I guess, just something I don't want to hear much. I wish more Matt songs made it to their albumsWendy Carlos's Twin wrote:That's the problem with all of Matt's songs. They are songs for musicians. I don't think general music consumers have the ability to understand or enjoy them.Strat wrote:Evacuation is top tier for me. Love everything about it and just a riot to play on guitar.
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But sometimes I wish the Matt songs that do make it to albums didn't get revised by other band members
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he's hardly Meshuggah or anythingWendy Carlos's Twin wrote:That's the problem with all of Matt's songs. They are songs for musicians. I don't think general music consumers have the ability to understand or enjoy them.Strat wrote:Evacuation is top tier for me. Love everything about it and just a riot to play on guitar.
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*fixedE.H. Ruddock wrote:But sometimes I wish the Matt songs that do make it to albums didn't get revised by other band members
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StratStrat wrote:*fixedE.H. Ruddock wrote:But sometimes I wish the Matt songs that do make it to albums didn't get revised by other band members
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I tried getting into this song many times over the years. It just doesn’t do anything for me. There are some cool moments. For my taste, the lyrics are subpar and the “Heeee’s okaaay” is a bit wonky for me. I’d rather venture off into Sigur Ros if I want this atmospheric stuff. But I can see why one like it though.PHATJ wrote:Lol. Sleight of Hand is the best song they’ve even written.Birds in Hell wrote:I guess there’s no accounting for taste.Royalearth wrote:sleight of hand (yawnnn!!)
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I've said this before, but it reminds me of "Omegaman" by The Police or something. Boisterous vocal soundscapes. I don't hear it as "yelling". But that's alright.E.H. Ruddock wrote: for me it has all to do with Eddie's singing. It's fine I guess, just something I don't want to hear much. I wish more Matt songs made it to their albums
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I just can't deal with the released tracklisting.Strat wrote:Evacuation is top tier for me. Love everything about it and just a riot to play on guitar.E.H. Ruddock wrote:Just finished a listen through. The only song I wanted to skip was Evacuation. Ed's screaming just hasn't aged well for me on that song. But other than that, this is a near-perfect record. Just behind Vitalogy for me, and my love for that may be more nostalgic than anything.
Honestly, There is no flaw on this record for me. I loved it from the beginning and its only gotten better with age. People complain about the production but its such a singular experience in their catalogue. I never once felt the hard songs were neutered. They are so atmospheric and precise at the same time. The playing is just outstanding on this record.
I always had trouble connecting with the record until I tried the "original" tracklisting, then it just totally opened up.
I miss Gods' Dice though.
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It's so good im not even mad that Sad, Fatal, and Education aren't on itBirds in Hell wrote:I just can't deal with the released tracklisting.Strat wrote:Evacuation is top tier for me. Love everything about it and just a riot to play on guitar.E.H. Ruddock wrote:Just finished a listen through. The only song I wanted to skip was Evacuation. Ed's screaming just hasn't aged well for me on that song. But other than that, this is a near-perfect record. Just behind Vitalogy for me, and my love for that may be more nostalgic than anything.
Honestly, There is no flaw on this record for me. I loved it from the beginning and its only gotten better with age. People complain about the production but its such a singular experience in their catalogue. I never once felt the hard songs were neutered. They are so atmospheric and precise at the same time. The playing is just outstanding on this record.
I always had trouble connecting with the record until I tried the "original" tracklisting, then it just totally opened up.
I miss Gods' Dice though.
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The album doesn't really suffer from it but I agree with a previous comment Eddie's voice doesn't sound as full or strong as it did on Yield.
I do like the vocal effects on Breakerfall.
I do like the vocal effects on Breakerfall.
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Every rocker is much better live. Grievance, especially. But Breakerfall and Insignificance are also good examples.digster wrote:I don't think I could disagree with this more. There may not be a Pearl Jam album IMO with more songs where the live versions, as good as they are, never matched the studio versions. Off the top of my head, as much as half the record could fall under that category.mikejasond wrote:While sometimes true, I don't think that's ever MORE true than Binaural. Songs that are standouts live like Grievance make no impact on the album at all. If you compare the live versions of an album to the studio versions, NO album would benefit more than Binaural.liebzz wrote:I feel the exact opposite of this.
Instead, I would have loved to get a second album consisting of the b-sides that didn’t make this album.
Otherwise, this album is phenomenal and might be the one album where they utilized Matt Cameron perfectly. I do think they did pull back from the full experiment, well documented on RM, but the songs are tremendous. It also generally holds that the songs on every Pearl Jam album sound better live at least during the time period where the album was released.
Actualy even non rockers like NAIS and Light Years are better live.
Thin Air is better on the album probably
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I disagree about Insignificance. I think the album cut is far superior than any live performance of it. The studio version just has a bit more heft to it. And that's admitting that they've had some decent performances of it over the years. Koln 2000 is one of my favorites.mikejasond wrote:Every rocker is much better live. Grievance, especially. But Breakerfall and Insignificance are also good examples.digster wrote:I don't think I could disagree with this more. There may not be a Pearl Jam album IMO with more songs where the live versions, as good as they are, never matched the studio versions. Off the top of my head, as much as half the record could fall under that category.mikejasond wrote:While sometimes true, I don't think that's ever MORE true than Binaural. Songs that are standouts live like Grievance make no impact on the album at all. If you compare the live versions of an album to the studio versions, NO album would benefit more than Binaural.liebzz wrote:I feel the exact opposite of this.
Instead, I would have loved to get a second album consisting of the b-sides that didn’t make this album.
Otherwise, this album is phenomenal and might be the one album where they utilized Matt Cameron perfectly. I do think they did pull back from the full experiment, well documented on RM, but the songs are tremendous. It also generally holds that the songs on every Pearl Jam album sound better live at least during the time period where the album was released.
Actualy even non rockers like NAIS and Light Years are better live.
Thin Air is better on the album probably
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You have ears of buttmikejasond wrote:Every rocker is much better live. Grievance, especially. But Breakerfall and Insignificance are also good examples.
Actualy even non rockers like NAIS and Light Years are better live.
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