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WtOB? wrote:i'm hoping anthony albanese becomes the labor leader.
At least he has excellent taste in music.
that was one superb rage playlist. :nice:
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zeb wrote:Albanese would be a solid opposition leader but I'm not sure if he is prime ministerial.
why's that? he seems at least as prime ministerial to me as pre-07 kevin rudd.
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WtOB? wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
WtOB? wrote:i'm hoping anthony albanese becomes the labor leader.
At least he has excellent taste in music.
that was one superb rage playlist. :nice:
not as good as adam bandt's though. but i wouldn't expect anything less from a green.
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zeb wrote:Albanese would be a solid opposition leader but I'm not sure if he is prime ministerial.
Tony Abbott just became Prime Minister, I'm pretty sure we can chuck such notions out the window. I might've voted Liberal but I still think it's a bizarre turn of events.
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I met John Howard while he was Prime Minister. Does that qualify me to talk Australian politics?
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so did i. how'd you meet him ruddo?
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I had to brief him while in the middle east.
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did he enjoy your brief?
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WtOB? wrote:did he enjoy your brief?
I suppose so. I was the only American briefing him. The rest were Aussies. He seemed nice enough.
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cool. i saw him earlier this year at the cricket in sydney. he was walking right next to me on the stairs. no security, nothing. just by himself. it was weird.

i met him in 2006 when i went to canberra for winning the national history challenge. he wasn't all that into it and was in a hurry i think. canberra is the worst place i've ever been to, though. and i've been to devonport.
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i'm watching the chaser 2007 election specials to make myself feel better. those guys used to be a helluva lot funnier than they are now. their election specials this year have been pretty awful.
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Usually I'm able to find at least one redeeming factor of an entire political party. But between Little Johnny and Abbott, that has been quite difficult as far as the Coalition goes.
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Yup.

And when you add Mirabella, Joyce and Pyne to that equation it becomes too much to bear.
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Don't forget Cory Bernardi!

(I wish I could.)

They're certainly not perfect, or even adequate in some cases, but having some nutcases onboard is hardly exclusive to the Liberal Party.
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The proposed PPL will not happen. It won't get through and it'll be revised if not abandoned. It was an attention grab which may have worked. I just hope Abbott doesn't get his mind onto work penalties and slashing family benefit allowances etc. but he'll do what he can to not affect interest rates, I'm sure.

In future all policies should be released/announced to the public 2-4 weeks out to give both public and media due time to analyse/critique.
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WtOB? wrote:canberra is the worst place i've ever been to, though. and i've been to devonport.
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WtOB? wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
WtOB? wrote:i'm hoping anthony albanese becomes the labor leader.
At least he has excellent taste in music.
that was one superb rage playlist. :nice:
At least his adviser's do ;)

It will be Shorten for sure, but I'd like to see Tanya Plibersek in the role one day.
LetMeSleep wrote:The proposed PPL will not happen. It won't get through and it'll be revised if not abandoned. It was an attention grab which may have worked.
Spot on LMS :thumbsup:
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that motoring enthusiast bogan that got into the senate is both hilarious and really depressing. the country just became a huge mess.
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ridleybradout wrote:It will be Shorten for sure, but I'd like to see Tanya Plibersek in the role one day.
Tanya Plibersek for sure, that'd be great. :thumbsup:
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The World’s Deadliest Place for Shark Attacks Tries to Figure Out How to Stop Them

People are entering the waters off the west coast of Australia rather gingerly these days. Following a fatal attack on a surfer at Gracetown, 270 km south of Perth, on Nov. 23 — the second shark attack reported that day and the sixth fatality in the past two years — the state of Western Australia now holds the unenviable reputation as the world’s deadliest place for shark attacks.

In response, the Western Australian government has announced a controversial new shark-mitigation program that will see 72 drum lines (baited hooks attached to floatation devices) placed at eight popular beaches. Professional fishermen will be contracted to remove and destroy any shark larger than 3 m spotted near those beaches.

The move has sparked outrage from the people it aims to protect, with more than 4,500 Western Australians attending a protest at Perth’s Cottesloe Beach last weekend and similar protests taking place in Sydney, Melbourne, the Gold Coast and five other cities.

“While the rest of the world is turning to shark conservation, our government is sticking his head in the sand, ignoring all the experts and employing an archaic strategy,” Western Australians for Shark Conservation founder Ross Weir tells TIME. “What they are doing is illegal and violates 15 different United Nations conventions and treaties.”

The authorities, however, remain unmoved. “While we understand this policy will be divisive and cause anxiety for some in the community, it is clear that the number of fatalities in recent years required a stronger response, particularly for … the divers, surfers and swimmers who love to use the water,” says acting Premier Kim Hames. He adds that the policy was developed in consultation with more than 40 shark experts and based on shark-control programs that have been operating for decades in the Australian states of New South Wales and Queensland as well as Natal in South Africa.

However, data collected by the KwaZulu-Natal Sharks Board shows the bycatch from drum lining — which causes fatalities among small whales, dolphins, marine turtles and other endangered and innocent species — outnumbers the target catch by 5 to 1. Even when the large numbers of sharks are removed from the ocean, as took place in Hawaii in the 1960s and ’70s when nearly 4,700 sharks were culled, the approach fails to produce a measurable decrease in attacks.

Some experts are even warning that drum lines will increase the number of shark attacks. “Whenever you put bait in the water, you always risk bringing something to the area that was not there before,” says Nathan Hart, an associate professor at the University of Western Australia’s School of Animal Biology.

The most controversial aspect of the Western Australia plan is that it targets, among other species, the iconic great white shark. With great whites protected in Australia as an endangered species (due to a low rate of reproduction that makes them vulnerable to population collapse), there are thought to be fewer than 3,500 of them left in the ocean.

“The great white is an [International Union for Conservation of Nature] red-listed species with a higher protection status than humpback whales,” says Jeff Hanson, director of the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society of Australia. “The species is on life support and the Western Australian government wants to pull the plug. It’s indulging in hysteria,” he says, adding that his organization is considering mounting a legal challenge.

Instead of culling sharks, conservationists suggest research is the key to reducing attacks. Hart is currently leading a project funded by the Western Australian government to define the visual, electrical and vibrational cues that trigger shark attacks. The findings will be used to design the next generation of deterrent devices. Perth-based company Shark Shield, which sells such devices, has also been awarded a government grant to develop a new and improved version of its product that can be built into new surfboards or retrofitted into existing boards.

Then there’s social media, which is already helping humans coexist with the ocean’s apex predator. Western Australia’s fisheries department has attached transmitters to 320 large sharks that send tweets whenever any of the sharks move within 500 m of the shore. The tweets, posted on the Twitter account of Surf Life Saving Western Australia, inform beachgoers of the exact location, type and size of the shark. The project has proved exceedingly popular, quadrupling the SLSWA’s Twitter base from 8,000 to 27,500 in the space of a week, and attracted praise from celebrity shark advocate Richard Branson, who called it “another great example of technology helping to preserve the balance of man and nature.”
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