Spritzy punkers

[Ms Harmless]

I think it sounds very like The Clash

[Strat]

Leatherman isn’t punk for fucks sake. It’s basically a folk song.

Sorry, all the musical parts are there. By this logic Bad Religion wouldn't be a punk band

I don’t know. The open chords. The rhythm. It’s not all power chord and down strokes that i generally associate a punk song with.

[Jorge]

Lots of open chords and arpeggios in punk. The way I see it it's about the energy, the melody and a certain aesthetic approach

[Strat]

It bounces. It doesn’t thrash or propel.

Gonna have to disagree with you all idiots here and this is where I part ways from rm. good luck. Morons

[Ms Harmless]

I always feel like their "punk" stuff courts 50s rock n roll too; there's always a bit of "Last Kiss" in their jangly riffs

[E.H. Ruddock]

It bounces. It doesn’t thrash or propel.

Gonna have to disagree with you all idiots here and this is where I part ways from rm. good luck. Morons

[Jorge]

It bounces. It doesn’t thrash or propel.

Gonna have to disagree with you all idiots here and this is where I part ways from rm. good luck. Morons

Hold on a second, all this time I was talking about the Touring Bank 2000 version of "Leatherman" because that's the only version I've ever heard. I just listened to the studio version (for the first time ever!) and it has a completely different rhythm, feel, and aesthetic, and I agree with you that I would not call it punk at all

[OmegaprimeVKM]

And what about the prissy spunkers?

[Strat]

It bounces. It doesn’t thrash or propel.

Gonna have to disagree with you all idiots here and this is where I part ways from rm. good luck. Morons

Hold on a second, all this time I was talking about the Touring Bank 2000 version of "Leatherman" because that's the only version I've ever heard. I just listened to the studio version (for the first time ever!) and it has a completely different rhythm, feel, and aesthetic, and I agree with you that I would not call it punk at all

Are you pimping me here to keep me around rm?

[Jorge]

It bounces. It doesn’t thrash or propel.

Gonna have to disagree with you all idiots here and this is where I part ways from rm. good luck. Morons

Hold on a second, all this time I was talking about the Touring Bank 2000 version of "Leatherman" because that's the only version I've ever heard. I just listened to the studio version (for the first time ever!) and it has a completely different rhythm, feel, and aesthetic, and I agree with you that I would not call it punk at all

Well it does kind of sound like Hüsker Dü at some points

[Ms Harmless]

It bounces. It doesn’t thrash or propel.

Gonna have to disagree with you all idiots here and this is where I part ways from rm. good luck. Morons

Hold on a second, all this time I was talking about the Touring Bank 2000 version of "Leatherman" because that's the only version I've ever heard. I just listened to the studio version (for the first time ever!) and it has a completely different rhythm, feel, and aesthetic, and I agree with you that I would not call it punk at all

I do agree that it's a folk song in its narrative, maybe a bit of Johnny Cash in there (and Neil Young of course)

[Jorge]

It bounces. It doesn’t thrash or propel.

Gonna have to disagree with you all idiots here and this is where I part ways from rm. good luck. Morons

Hold on a second, all this time I was talking about the Touring Bank 2000 version of "Leatherman" because that's the only version I've ever heard. I just listened to the studio version (for the first time ever!) and it has a completely different rhythm, feel, and aesthetic, and I agree with you that I would not call it punk at all

Are you pimping me here to keep me around rm?

No, I'd legitimately never heard the studio version before

This is the (much, much punkier) version I know

[E.H. Ruddock]

It bounces. It doesn’t thrash or propel.

Gonna have to disagree with you all idiots here and this is where I part ways from rm. good luck. Morons

Hold on a second, all this time I was talking about the Touring Bank 2000 version of "Leatherman" because that's the only version I've ever heard. I just listened to the studio version (for the first time ever!) and it has a completely different rhythm, feel, and aesthetic, and I agree with you that I would not call it punk at all

Are you pimping me here to keep me around rm?

Don't leave over a spritzy punker thread, strat.

[Anders]

I always associate punk with 70s UK bands, and very few Pearl Jam songs sounds like that. But a song like Comatose probably wouldn't have existed if it wasn't for punk existing first.

[EJ]

man, people are really having a lot of trouble with the whole "spritzy" part of this. you can't just throw out any fast punk song.

spritzy is bubbly, can't-sit-still, sunny, giggly, hyper, bouncy. aka not anything off of vitalogy. whipping is not spritzy for god's sake.

stip is probably right that mankind is patient zero but that feels weird with stone on vocals. it's really more of a post ST phenomenon to be honest. they seemed to double down on that specific type of song as an automatic part of their repertoire after the self-serious approach of that record.

the fixer absolutely needs to be on the official list.

I generally with all of this. But, U has to be included.

[Jorge]

I always associate punk with 70s UK bands, and very few Pearl Jam songs sounds like that. But a song like Comatose probably wouldn't have existed if it wasn't for punk existing first.

"Comatose" is 100% a punk song, one of the few Pearl Jam songs I would categorize as pure examples of that genre ("Spin the Black Circle" is another one), but it's not spritzy

[Anders]

I think it sounds very like The Clash

The Clash has some good stuff, but their good stuff mostly isn't punk imo. More rock or new wave.

[Bammer]

Fuck me for ever clicking on this thread

[Ms Harmless]

I think it sounds very like The Clash

The Clash has some good stuff, but their good stuff mostly isn't punk imo. More rock or new wave.

as I said earlier, I think SBWM captures post-punk / new wave, which is why I mentioned The Clash, since they did both

[Anders]

I always associate punk with 70s UK bands, and very few Pearl Jam songs sounds like that. But a song like Comatose probably wouldn't have existed if it wasn't for punk existing first.

"Comatose" is 100% a punk song, one of the few Pearl Jam songs I would categorize as pure examples of that genre ("Spin the Black Circle" is another one), but it's not spritzy

No, not spritzy at all. Agree on Comatose, but feel STBC leans harder towards rock, but it does have that punk feel that didn't exist before NY Garage or UK Punk.