the second time i am confident it is shelf. i think its a different lyric each timeRelease_Me wrote:So I think I'm hearing: "Feeling angry, knock it off the scale/shelf/stage" upon repeated listens. Not even sure if he repeats the same last word or uses a different one each time.
Also, I hear: "I've been hoping and a hope dies last"
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actually maybe it is shelf twice
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5 am and a 6 mile fast walk every morning. helps with my sleep issuesJuvenal wrote:Stip, you get up way too early
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I think the "keep it as simple as possible" intro has *got* to be entirely deliberate, and when I think of comparable ones like "Last Exit" and "Satan's Bed", I keep just wanting to add some sound textures behind it, feedback, some guitar "chugga... chug" like in "Undone", some kind of quiet vocal, anything to make it tickle my ear moreguitar_davey wrote:Is there anybody else here who kinda likes how it starts?
I know it's an incredibly straightforward drum beat (and sounds like Undone) and the first riff is also really simple, but I like how it starts with just a solid beat before it comes crashing in. I dunno, it does it for me. I feel a lot of excited anticipation in those first twenty seconds.
but... I'm getting used to it and even if it's a missed opportunity for me (and I hope that all these songs don't employ the same approach), I get what they were going for - something classic and no-frills
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it is definitely "knock it off the shelf" imo, not "now get off the..."
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This make sense to me, as, I used to also be really fascinated by a lot of the pre/post-song ear candy, as well. I think the intro to SBWF can be attributed to the idea that it was more of an exercise in form.Ms Harmless wrote:I think the "keep it as simple as possible" intro has *got* to be entirely deliberate, and when I think of comparable ones like "Last Exit" and "Satan's Bed", I keep just wanting to add some sound textures behind it, feedback, some guitar "chugga... chug" like in "Undone", some kind of quiet vocal, anything to make it tickle my ear moreguitar_davey wrote:Is there anybody else here who kinda likes how it starts?
I know it's an incredibly straightforward drum beat (and sounds like Undone) and the first riff is also really simple, but I like how it starts with just a solid beat before it comes crashing in. I dunno, it does it for me. I feel a lot of excited anticipation in those first twenty seconds.
but... I'm getting used to it and even if it's a missed opportunity for me (and I hope that all these songs don't employ the same approach), I get what they were going for - something classic and no-frills
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what do you mean by exercise in form?oneway23 wrote:This make sense to me, as, I used to also be really fascinated by a lot of the pre/post-song ear candy, as well. I think the intro to SBWF can be attributed to the idea that it was more of an exercise in form.Ms Harmless wrote:I think the "keep it as simple as possible" intro has *got* to be entirely deliberate, and when I think of comparable ones like "Last Exit" and "Satan's Bed", I keep just wanting to add some sound textures behind it, feedback, some guitar "chugga... chug" like in "Undone", some kind of quiet vocal, anything to make it tickle my ear moreguitar_davey wrote:Is there anybody else here who kinda likes how it starts?
I know it's an incredibly straightforward drum beat (and sounds like Undone) and the first riff is also really simple, but I like how it starts with just a solid beat before it comes crashing in. I dunno, it does it for me. I feel a lot of excited anticipation in those first twenty seconds.
but... I'm getting used to it and even if it's a missed opportunity for me (and I hope that all these songs don't employ the same approach), I get what they were going for - something classic and no-frills
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I don't profess to know the touch point for inspiration (though I could ask Stone when we have breakfastMs Harmless wrote:what do you mean by exercise in form?
Here, it feels like they're aspiring to more of a pop/punk Kinks/Cheap Trick energy. The form songs of that ilk might take. Those are far from the only influences in SBWM, of course, but, all of those are then filtered through the prism of Pearl Jam, and we get what get as the end result. That intro gives me a small window into their influences when initially conceiving the song.
I hope that approached some semblance of a cohesive thought. It's quite early, and I've not had nearly enough coffee.
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ill listen for it. thats a big change since it changes what the lyric focuses onMs Harmless wrote:it is definitely "knock it off the shelf" imo, not "now get off the..."
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oneway23 wrote:I don't profess to know the touch point for inspiration (though I could ask Stone when we have breakfastMs Harmless wrote:what do you mean by exercise in form?), but, say I'm going for a song inspired by 60's "girl groups", I'd likely start the song with that classic dum...dum dum drumbeat. Three simple hits, and it's instantaneously recognizable, right?
Here, it feels like they're aspiring to more of a pop/punk Kinks/Cheap Trick energy. The form songs of that ilk might take. Those are far from the only influences in SBWM, of course, but, all of those are then filtered through the prism of Pearl Jam, and we get what get as the end result. That intro gives me a small window into their influences when initially conceiving the song.
I hope that approached some semblance of a cohesive thought. It's quite early, and I've not had nearly enough coffee.
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great answer, thanks!stip wrote:oneway23 wrote:I don't profess to know the touch point for inspiration (though I could ask Stone when we have breakfastMs Harmless wrote:what do you mean by exercise in form?), but, say I'm going for a song inspired by 60's "girl groups", I'd likely start the song with that classic dum...dum dum drumbeat. Three simple hits, and it's instantaneously recognizable, right?
Here, it feels like they're aspiring to more of a pop/punk Kinks/Cheap Trick energy. The form songs of that ilk might take. Those are far from the only influences in SBWM, of course, but, all of those are then filtered through the prism of Pearl Jam, and we get what get as the end result. That intro gives me a small window into their influences when initially conceiving the song.
I hope that approached some semblance of a cohesive thought. It's quite early, and I've not had nearly enough coffee.
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Have we discussed the flame on Matt's drums in the tiny concert video?
Could be my perverted mind, but it looks like a woman on her back, with legs up to me... so maybe there's more to the gender thing afterall.
Could be my perverted mind, but it looks like a woman on her back, with legs up to me... so maybe there's more to the gender thing afterall.
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elliseamos wrote:Have we discussed the flame on Matt's drums in the tiny concert video?
Could be my perverted mind, but it looks like a woman on her back, with legs up to me... so maybe there's more to the gender thing afterall.
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I don't like how it starts starts (just the drums), but once the first, lighter guitars hit I like it from there until it really kicks in.knee tunes wrote:noguitar_davey wrote:Is there anybody else here who kinda likes how it starts?
I know it's an incredibly straightforward drum beat (and sounds like Undone) and the first riff is also really simple, but I like how it starts with just a solid beat before it comes crashing in. I dunno, it does it for me. I feel a lot of excited anticipation in those first twenty seconds.
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I hadn't really picked up on this until yesterday, but yeah, it's good.stip wrote:yeah it’s rough- especially when the second iteration of that is so much better. There is a cool layering moment in eddie’s vocal (a deeper accompaniment ) that i like, though
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Put me down for "shelf" the first time, and "stage" on the second one.Release_Me wrote:So I think I'm hearing: "Feeling angry, knock it off the scale/shelf/stage" upon repeated listens. Not even sure if he repeats the same last word or uses a different one each time.
Also, I hear: "I've been hoping and a hope dies last"
I'm back and forth on all the "hope dies" possibilities. Someone's suggested, "I've been hoping and I hope that lasts." They all work for me, I think.
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I don't particularly like anything before the 1st "verse" but considering that the "superblood wolfmoon" part could've easily been used as a traditional chorus, I am super glad that we only get that part in the intro and at the beginning of the outro. If that part was repeated after every verse then the song would've been really lame!Jaeti wrote:I don't like how it starts starts (just the drums), but once the first, lighter guitars hit I like it from there until it really kicks in.knee tunes wrote:noguitar_davey wrote:Is there anybody else here who kinda likes how it starts?
I know it's an incredibly straightforward drum beat (and sounds like Undone) and the first riff is also really simple, but I like how it starts with just a solid beat before it comes crashing in. I dunno, it does it for me. I feel a lot of excited anticipation in those first twenty seconds.
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I've determined after repeated listens that this song is way better than a lot of you think. Some of you have smartly figured this out. I have yet to enjoy the la la la part however. 
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I hear “Throughout the hopelessness / focus on your focusness / I’ve been hoping / and a hope dies last / I don’t know anything / I question everything / This life I love is goin’ way too fast” though there’s some chance it’s “I hoped I’d last,” and the second time “Focus on your focusness / turn around for hopelessness / I’ve been hopin’ / and all hope was lost). Can’t for the life of me tell if it’s “knock it off the shelf” or “get off the scale” (leaning toward the former) the first time through and am not sure what he is saying after “hoping that I hurt ya ...”. I agree with the previous post about “beggar.”
It’s quite a revelation hearing this on YouTube slowed down by 25% (.75x Playback speed) - sounds much more like an average song of theirs. And the slower you go, the more drunk Ed seems.
Also recommend listening to it sped up!
It’s quite a revelation hearing this on YouTube slowed down by 25% (.75x Playback speed) - sounds much more like an average song of theirs. And the slower you go, the more drunk Ed seems.
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If this song doesn’t come out as a single, it doesn’t even get its own thread here - let alone 96 pages and counting.
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