It’s very strange that they would set up stuff that contradicts canon, but possibly what you get with directors with creative control. At least with this book, it is very unlikely to be contradicted by a movie anytime soon.durdencommatyler wrote:Right but again what I said is the most accurate. For example, Poe and Rey meet on the novelisation of TFA. But not in the film. So when they meet in screen in TLJ, that's canon regardless of the book.Anders wrote:The book is canon.
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I read that the book also informs what Kylo said to ren before he died.
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It's because the writers of these adaptations are usually working with early scripts. They start there books usually before shooting begins. So obviously a lot changes.Anders wrote:It’s very strange that they would set up stuff that contradicts canon, but possibly what you get with directors with creative control. At least with this book, it is very unlikely to be contradicted by a movie anytime soon.durdencommatyler wrote:Right but again what I said is the most accurate. For example, Poe and Rey meet on the novelisation of TFA. But not in the film. So when they meet in screen in TLJ, that's canon regardless of the book.Anders wrote:The book is canon.
On September 29, 2018, Lucasfilm Story Group's Matt Martin revealed on his Twitter account that the canon tier system originally established by Leland Chee in the early 2000s is no longer used following the canon reboot.
All Marvel Star Wars comic books and novels beginning with A New Dawn—is considered part of the new canon, on account of the creation of the Lucasfilm Story Group, which currently oversees continuity as a whole.
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But TLJ came out after the TFA book. They should have respected the book.durdencommatyler wrote:It's because the writers of these adaptations are usually working with early scripts. They start there books usually before shooting begins. So obviously a lot changes.Anders wrote:It’s very strange that they would set up stuff that contradicts canon, but possibly what you get with directors with creative control. At least with this book, it is very unlikely to be contradicted by a movie anytime soon.durdencommatyler wrote:Right but again what I said is the most accurate. For example, Poe and Rey meet on the novelisation of TFA. But not in the film. So when they meet in screen in TLJ, that's canon regardless of the book.Anders wrote:The book is canon.
On September 29, 2018, Lucasfilm Story Group's Matt Martin revealed on his Twitter account that the canon tier system originally established by Leland Chee in the early 2000s is no longer used following the canon reboot.
All Marvel Star Wars comic books and novels beginning with A New Dawn—is considered part of the new canon, on account of the creation of the Lucasfilm Story Group, which currently oversees continuity as a whole.
The novels are canon unless they contradict the films.
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But Rian was well into production before the book came out. Also the books defer to the movies. This goes all the way back to the OG novelizations.Anders wrote:But TLJ came out after the TFA book. They should have respected the book.durdencommatyler wrote:It's because the writers of these adaptations are usually working with early scripts. They start there books usually before shooting begins. So obviously a lot changes.Anders wrote:It’s very strange that they would set up stuff that contradicts canon, but possibly what you get with directors with creative control. At least with this book, it is very unlikely to be contradicted by a movie anytime soon.durdencommatyler wrote:Right but again what I said is the most accurate. For example, Poe and Rey meet on the novelisation of TFA. But not in the film. So when they meet in screen in TLJ, that's canon regardless of the book.Anders wrote:The book is canon.
On September 29, 2018, Lucasfilm Story Group's Matt Martin revealed on his Twitter account that the canon tier system originally established by Leland Chee in the early 2000s is no longer used following the canon reboot.
All Marvel Star Wars comic books and novels beginning with A New Dawn—is considered part of the new canon, on account of the creation of the Lucasfilm Story Group, which currently oversees continuity as a whole.
The novels are canon unless they contradict the films.
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I think that's a poor way of handling it, and Lucasfilm themselves have gone out to say before the release of TFA, that from now on, everything released is proper canon, and not in the old system.durdencommatyler wrote:But Rian was well into production before the book came out. Also the books defer to the movies. This goes all the way back to the OG novelizations.Anders wrote:But TLJ came out after the TFA book. They should have respected the book.durdencommatyler wrote:It's because the writers of these adaptations are usually working with early scripts. They start there books usually before shooting begins. So obviously a lot changes.Anders wrote:It’s very strange that they would set up stuff that contradicts canon, but possibly what you get with directors with creative control. At least with this book, it is very unlikely to be contradicted by a movie anytime soon.durdencommatyler wrote:Right but again what I said is the most accurate. For example, Poe and Rey meet on the novelisation of TFA. But not in the film. So when they meet in screen in TLJ, that's canon regardless of the book.Anders wrote:The book is canon.
On September 29, 2018, Lucasfilm Story Group's Matt Martin revealed on his Twitter account that the canon tier system originally established by Leland Chee in the early 2000s is no longer used following the canon reboot.
All Marvel Star Wars comic books and novels beginning with A New Dawn—is considered part of the new canon, on account of the creation of the Lucasfilm Story Group, which currently oversees continuity as a whole.
The novels are canon unless they contradict the films.
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Right. It's not the old tiered canon system like it used to be.Anders wrote:I think that's a poor way of handling it, and Lucasfilm themselves have gone out to say before the release of TFA, that from now on, everything released is proper canon, and not in the old system.durdencommatyler wrote:But Rian was well into production before the book came out. Also the books defer to the movies. This goes all the way back to the OG novelizations.Anders wrote:But TLJ came out after the TFA book. They should have respected the book.durdencommatyler wrote:It's because the writers of these adaptations are usually working with early scripts. They start there books usually before shooting begins. So obviously a lot changes.Anders wrote:It’s very strange that they would set up stuff that contradicts canon, but possibly what you get with directors with creative control. At least with this book, it is very unlikely to be contradicted by a movie anytime soon.durdencommatyler wrote:Right but again what I said is the most accurate. For example, Poe and Rey meet on the novelisation of TFA. But not in the film. So when they meet in screen in TLJ, that's canon regardless of the book.Anders wrote:The book is canon.
On September 29, 2018, Lucasfilm Story Group's Matt Martin revealed on his Twitter account that the canon tier system originally established by Leland Chee in the early 2000s is no longer used following the canon reboot.
All Marvel Star Wars comic books and novels beginning with A New Dawn—is considered part of the new canon, on account of the creation of the Lucasfilm Story Group, which currently oversees continuity as a whole.
The novels are canon unless they contradict the films.
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OK mr. "I only consume superhero media"B wrote:
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I also consume Star Wars media, but I don't spend pages arguing over the relevance of a single line of text in a book no one will read for a movie that no one likes.theplatypus wrote:OK mr. "I only consume superhero media"B wrote:
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This whole conversation started though because of Palpatine being a clone. I don't see how that contradicts the movie in any way. So I think it's a safe bet that it is canon that he is a clone
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According to McDiarmid there was a line in the movie confirming he was a clone but it got cut.
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Assuming this is true, this is what I wanted and what I was speculating about:
"He then deduces Palpatine's dark side spirit is too strong for the clone body, and is causing serious degeneration to it."
"He then deduces Palpatine's dark side spirit is too strong for the clone body, and is causing serious degeneration to it."
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durdencommatyler wrote:Assuming this is true, this is what I wanted and what I was speculating about:
"He then deduces Palpatine's dark side spirit is too strong for the clone body, and is causing serious degeneration to it."
This goes back to and is lifted from splinter of the minds eye(I think?). Palpatine had millions of clone bodies cos the dark side would corrupt and rot the one he was in so he needed loads of spares.
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A concept from the old EU that I've always really loved. Would have been great to see explicitly on screen.dimejinky99 wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:Assuming this is true, this is what I wanted and what I was speculating about:
"He then deduces Palpatine's dark side spirit is too strong for the clone body, and is causing serious degeneration to it."
This goes back to and is lifted from splinter of the minds eye(I think?). Palpatine had millions of clone bodies cos the dark side would corrupt and rot the one he was in so he needed loads of spares.
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I think it might be still canon? It was a graphic Novel series I think?
Memory on it is shot apart from that. Think it was set after ROTJ?
Memory on it is shot apart from that. Think it was set after ROTJ?
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Splinter is set after New Hope and was meant to serve as a "continuing stories of Luke Skywalker" low budget consolation sequel in case Lucas never made another film.dimejinky99 wrote:I think it might be still canon? It was a graphic Novel series I think?
Memory on it is shot apart from that. Think it was set after ROTJ?
The Palatine clone stuff comes from some post RotJ content. No idea if any of that is still canon or not. Though I assumed it wasn't.
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Splinter was never canon. Lucas commissioned it as a possible story for the possible sequel before the first movie was released. After it was successful, he scrapped the idea of using it for the sequel. Palpatine or the Emperor, IIRC, wasn’t even mentioned in the book.durdencommatyler wrote:A concept from the old EU that I've always really loved. Would have been great to see explicitly on screen.dimejinky99 wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:Assuming this is true, this is what I wanted and what I was speculating about:
"He then deduces Palpatine's dark side spirit is too strong for the clone body, and is causing serious degeneration to it."
This goes back to and is lifted from splinter of the minds eye(I think?). Palpatine had millions of clone bodies cos the dark side would corrupt and rot the one he was in so he needed loads of spares.
The story you guys are thinking of is Dark Empire. It was a miniseries published by Dark Horse Comics in the early 90s. They did two sequel miniseries for it afterwards. It was never canon either.
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Dark Empire was so cool back then.
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Yeah. It was the first cool Star Wars since ROTJ. I think the first Zahn book came out shortly after this came out. Pretty good time to be a SW fan.VinylGuy wrote:Dark Empire was so cool back then.
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