S/T, Backspacer, Lightning Bolt & Gigaton - rank the songs

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Re: S/T, Backspacer & Lightning Bolt - rank the songs

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Unemployable (Avocado)
Getaway (Lightning Bolt)
Johnny Guitar (Backspacer)
Army Reserve (Avocado)
Got Some (Backspacer)
Comatose (Avocado)
Mind Your Manners (Lightning Bolt)
Life Wasted (Avocado)
Pendulum (Lightning Bolt)
Of The Earth (Rarities)
Infallible (Lightning Bolt)
Just Breathe (Backspacer)
World Wide Suicide (Avocado)
The End (Backspacer)
Let It Ride (Rarities)
Speed of Sound (Backspacer)
Sirens (Lightning Bolt)
Severed Hand (Avocado)
Parachutes (Avocado)
Marker In The Sand (Avocado)
Amongst The Waves (Backspacer)
Unthought Known (Backspacer)
Future Days (Lightning Bolt)
My Father's Son (Lightning Bolt)
Come Back (Avocado)
Gone (Avocado)
Force of Nature (Backspacer)
Cold Confession (Rarities)
Gonna See My Friend (Backspacer)
Sleeping By Myself (Lightning Bolt)
Inside Job (Avocado)
The Fixer (Backspacer)
Lightning Bolt (Lightning Bolt)
Yellow Moon (Lightning Bolt)
Swallowed Whole (Lightning Bolt)
Let The Records Play (Lightning Bolt)
Ole (Rarities)
Can't Deny Me (Rarities)
Supersonic (Backspacer)
Big Wave (Avocado)
Wasted Reprise (Avocado)
Hummus (Rarities)
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By album as voted by RM

S/T
Parachutes 216 8,3
Severed Hand 229 8,8
Marker In The Sand 256 9,85
Life Wasted 274 10,54
Unemployable 326 12,54
Army Reserve 347 13,35
World Wide Suicide 373 14,35
Come Back 403 15,5
Comatose 418 16,07
Big Wave 475 18,27
Inside Job 569 21,88
Gone 589 22,65
Wasted Reprise 731 28,12

Backspacer
Johnny Guitar 336 12,92
Got Some 387 14,88
Force Of Nature 455 17,5
Gonna See My Friend 505 19,42
Unthought Known 509 19,58
The Fixer 511 19,65
Speed Of Sound 517 19,88
Amongst The Waves 542 20,85
Just Breathe 545 20,96
The End 580 22,31
Supersonic 673 25,88

Lightning Bolt
Pendulum 358 13,77
Infallible 438 16,85
My Father's Son 445 17,12
Yellow Moon 466 17,92
Mind Your Manners 488 18,77
Lightning Bolt 508 19,54
Swallowed Whole 518 19,92
Getaway 560 21,54
Sirens 610 23,46
Sleeping By Myself 635 24,42
Let The Records Play 700 26,92
Future Days 820 31,54
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Average ranking per album as voted by RM

1. S/T 15,40 average score
2. Backspacer 19,44 average score
3. Lightning Bolt 20,98 average score

A best of Backspacer and Lightning Bolt 13 to compete with S/T, scores a 17,52 average score.

1. Johnny Guitar 336 12,92
2. Pendulum 358 13,77
3. Got Some 387 14,88
4. Infallible 438 16,85
5. My Father's Son 445 17,12
6. Force Of Nature 455 17,5
7. Yellow Moon 466 17,92
8. Mind Your Manners 488 18,77
9. Gonna See My Friend 505 19,42
10. Lightning Bolt 508 19,54
11. Unthought Known 509 19,58
12. The Fixer 511 19,65
13. Speed Of Sound 517 19,88
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This is how RM has voted. 26 full lists from different posters. Total score and average place in the list below. Parachutes is the best album song in the independent era of Pearl Jam, Future Days is the worst.

1. Parachutes 216 / 8,3
2. Severed Hand 229 / 8,8
3. Marker In The Sand 256 / 9,85
4. Life Wasted 274 / 10,54
5. Unemployable 326 / 12,54
6. Johnny Guitar 336 / 12,92
7. Army Reserve 347 / 13,35
8. Pendulum 358 / 13,77
9. World Wide Suicide 373 /14,35
10. Got Some 387 / 14,88
11. Come Back 403 / 15,5
12. Comatose 418 / 16,07
13. Infallible 438 / 16,85
14. My Father's Son 445 / 17,12
15. Force Of Nature 455 / 17,5
16. Yellow Moon 466 / 17,92
17. Big Wave 475 / 18,27
18. Mind Your Manners 488 / 18,77
19. Gonna See My Friend 505 / 19,42
20. Lightning Bolt 508 / 19,54
21. Unthought Known 509 / 19,58
22. The Fixer 511 / 19,65
23. Speed Of Sound 517 / 19,88
24. Swallowed Whole 518 / 19,92
25. Amongst The Waves 542 / 20,85
26. Just Breathe 545 / 20,96
27. Getaway 560 / 21,54
28. Inside Job 569 / 21,88
29. The End 580 / 22,31
30. Gone 589 / 22,65
31. Sirens 610 / 23,46
32. Sleeping By Myself 635 / 24,42
33. Supersonic 673 / 25,88
34. Let The Records Play 700 / 26,92
35. Wasted Reprise 731 / 28,12
36. Future Days 820 / 31,54
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Anders wrote:RM has voted. Unthought Known you are the weakest link. Yellow Moon wins.

1. Yellow Moon 16
2. Amongst the Waves 24
3. Infallible 26
4. Johnny Guitar 30
5. Pendulum 33
6. Force of Nature 34
7. Lightning Bolt 38
8. The Fixer 38
9. Mind Your Manners 39
10. Got Some 43
11 Just Breathe 44
12. Sirens 51
13. The End 52
14. Future Days 55
15. Speed of Sound 59
16. Sleeping by Myself 60
17. Let the Records Play 62
18. Getaway 62
19. My Father's Son 64
20. Swallowed Whole 65
21. Gonna See My Friend 65
22. Supersonic 71
23. Unthought Known 73

Lightning Bolt 1 3 5 7 9 12 14 16 17 18 19 20 = 141 avg of 11,75
Backspacer 2 4 6 8 10 11 13 15 21 22 23 = 135 avg of 12,27

Lightning Bolt 16 26 33 38 39 51 55 60 62 62 64 65 = 571 avg of 47,58
Backspacer 24 30 34 38 43 44 52 59 65 71 73 = 533 avg of 48,45



I waa surprised to see My Father's Son and Getaway ranked so low. They both sound pretty great to me.
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My Father’s Son did a lot better in the new ranking. It got a better ranking with three albums, than with two. Not common.

This was the final two album ranking:

RM has voted. Let The Records Play you are the weakest link. Pendulum wins. Lightning Bolt now destroys Backspacer.

1. Pendulum 69
2. Yellow Moon 73
3. Infallible 96
4. The Fixer 99
5. Lightning Bolt 100
6. Force of Nature 102
7. Johnny Guitar 110
8. Mind Your Manners 110
9. Got Some 111
10. Sirens 112
11. Sleeping by Myself 125
12 Just Breathe 125
13. Amongst the Waves 128
14. Getaway 132
15. My Father's Son 141
16. Speed of Sound 150
17. The End 156
18. Future Days 172
19. Unthought Known 174
20. Gonna See My Friend 176
21. Swallowed Whole 182
22. Supersonic 194
23. Let the Records Play 197

Lightning Bolt 1 2 3 5 8 10 11 14 15 18 21 23 = 131 avg of 10,92
Backspacer 4 6 7 9 12 13 16 17 19 20 22 = 145 avg of 13,18

Lightning Bolt 69 73 96 100 110 112 125 132 141 172 182 197 = 1239 avg of 103,25
Backspacer 99 102 110 111 125 128 150 156 174 176 194 = 1525 avg of 138,64
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Anders wrote:This is how RM has voted. 26 full lists from different posters. Total score and average place in the list below. Parachutes is the best album song in the independent era of Pearl Jam, Future Days is the worst.

1. Parachutes 216 / 8,3
2. Severed Hand 229 / 8,8
3. Marker In The Sand 256 / 9,85
4. Life Wasted 274 / 10,54
5. Unemployable 326 / 12,54
6. Johnny Guitar 336 / 12,92
7. Army Reserve 347 / 13,35
8. Pendulum 358 / 13,77
9. World Wide Suicide 373 /14,35
10. Got Some 387 / 14,88
11. Come Back 403 / 15,5
12. Comatose 418 / 16,07
13. Infallible 438 / 16,85
14. My Father's Son 445 / 17,12
15. Force Of Nature 455 / 17,5
16. Yellow Moon 466 / 17,92
17. Big Wave 475 / 18,27
18. Mind Your Manners 488 / 18,77
19. Gonna See My Friend 505 / 19,42
20. Lightning Bolt 508 / 19,54
21. Unthought Known 509 / 19,58
22. The Fixer 511 / 19,65
23. Speed Of Sound 517 / 19,88
24. Swallowed Whole 518 / 19,92
25. Amongst The Waves 542 / 20,85
26. Just Breathe 545 / 20,96
27. Getaway 560 / 21,54
28. Inside Job 569 / 21,88
29. The End 580 / 22,31
30. Gone 589 / 22,65
31. Sirens 610 / 23,46
32. Sleeping By Myself 635 / 24,42
33. Supersonic 673 / 25,88
34. Let The Records Play 700 / 26,92
35. Wasted Reprise 731 / 28,12
36. Future Days 820 / 31,54
How do you guys think the two known Gigaton songs would rate on this list?
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Anders wrote:
Anders wrote:This is how RM has voted. 26 full lists from different posters. Total score and average place in the list below. Parachutes is the best album song in the independent era of Pearl Jam, Future Days is the worst.

1. Parachutes 216 / 8,3
2. Severed Hand 229 / 8,8
3. Marker In The Sand 256 / 9,85
4. Life Wasted 274 / 10,54
5. Unemployable 326 / 12,54
6. Johnny Guitar 336 / 12,92
7. Army Reserve 347 / 13,35
8. Pendulum 358 / 13,77
9. World Wide Suicide 373 /14,35
10. Got Some 387 / 14,88
11. Come Back 403 / 15,5
12. Comatose 418 / 16,07
13. Infallible 438 / 16,85
14. My Father's Son 445 / 17,12
15. Force Of Nature 455 / 17,5
16. Yellow Moon 466 / 17,92
17. Big Wave 475 / 18,27
18. Mind Your Manners 488 / 18,77
19. Gonna See My Friend 505 / 19,42
20. Lightning Bolt 508 / 19,54
21. Unthought Known 509 / 19,58
22. The Fixer 511 / 19,65
23. Speed Of Sound 517 / 19,88
24. Swallowed Whole 518 / 19,92
25. Amongst The Waves 542 / 20,85
26. Just Breathe 545 / 20,96
27. Getaway 560 / 21,54
28. Inside Job 569 / 21,88
29. The End 580 / 22,31
30. Gone 589 / 22,65
31. Sirens 610 / 23,46
32. Sleeping By Myself 635 / 24,42
33. Supersonic 673 / 25,88
34. Let The Records Play 700 / 26,92
35. Wasted Reprise 731 / 28,12
36. Future Days 820 / 31,54
How do you guys think the two known Gigaton songs would rate on this list?
DotC would probably be in top 5-7. SBWF in the low 20s.
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Very logical, I agree. Although I think DotC would be no lower than 5th. SBWF should beat Speed Of Sound.
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Anders wrote:Very logical, I agree. Although I think DotC would be no lower than 5th. SBWF should beat Speed Of Sound.
DotC would be in my top 3 probably. It's so good.
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Monkey_Driven wrote:
Anders wrote:Very logical, I agree. Although I think DotC would be no lower than 5th. SBWF should beat Speed Of Sound.
DotC would be in my top 3 probably. It's so good.
Yes, still possibly the best song on Gigaton.

Glad I got finished collecting the scores here before everyone heard Gigaton.
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This thread now also includes Gigaton.
ABNorman wrote:Just in case anybody wants to do some RANKING, I've uploaded my old ranker here:

https://return-to-form.surge.sh/
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Anders wrote:This thread now also includes Gigaton.
ABNorman wrote:Just in case anybody wants to do some RANKING, I've uploaded my old ranker here:

https://return-to-form.surge.sh/
Here's the link if you want to go straight past the filtering to the rankers
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Thank you. :heartbeat:
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Played Gigaton to my girlfriend. She enjoyed it. Then I played her Parachutes, and she said it was the best song she had heard today.
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Anders wrote:Played Gigaton to my girlfriend. She enjoyed it. Then I played her Parachutes, and she said it was the best song she had heard today.
I wouldn't immediately disagree with her.
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ABNorman wrote:
Anders wrote:Played Gigaton to my girlfriend. She enjoyed it. Then I played her Parachutes, and she said it was the best song she had heard today.
I wouldn't immediately disagree with her.
It’s a great song.
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I’m going to wait until I get the official release, before I go into full ranking mode. So far I feel like Gigaton is better than Backspacer and Lightning Bolt, but probably competing closely with S/T. As an album the production sounds better, but song for song is different.
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I'll bite:

Life Wasted (Avocado)
Dance of the Clairvoyants (Gigaton)
World Wide Suicide (Avocado)
Lightning Bolt (Lightning Bolt)
Mind Your Manners (Lightning Bolt)
Force of Nature (Backspacer)
Comes Then Goes (Gigaton)
Comatose (Avocado)
Superblood Wolfmoon (Gigaton)
The Fixer (Backspacer)
Gonna See My Friend (Backspacer)
Parachutes (Avocado)
Sleeping By Myself (Lightning Bolt)
Quick Escape (Gigaton)
Buckle Up (Gigaton)
Alright (Gigaton)

Yellow Moon (Lightning Bolt)
Seven O'Clock (Gigaton)
Got Some (Backspacer)
Johnny Guitar (Backspacer)
Amongst The Waves (Backspacer)
River Cross (Gigaton)
Who Ever Said (Gigaton)

Pendulum (Lightning Bolt)
Sirens (Lightning Bolt)
Come Back (Avocado)
Just Breathe (Backspacer)
Swallowed Whole (Lightning Bolt)
Severed Hand (Avocado)
Unthought Known (Backspacer)
Speed of Sound (Backspacer)
Never Destination (Gigaton)
Retrograde (Gigaton)

Future Days (Lightning Bolt)
The End (Backspacer)
Marker In The Sand (Avocado)
Infallible (Lightning Bolt)
Wasted Reprise (Avocado)
Gone (Avocado)
Take the Long Way (Gigaton)
Let The Records Play (Lightning Bolt)
Army Reserve (Avocado)
Getaway (Lightning Bolt)
My Father's Son (Lightning Bolt)
Inside Job (Avocado)
Big Wave (Avocado)
Supersonic (Backspacer)
Unemployable (Avocado)

Album scores

Gigaton: 357 (Average: 29.8)
Backspacer: 282 (Average: 25.6)
Lightning Bolt: 273 (Average: 22.8)
Avocado: 264 (Average: 20.3)


that very well could be. I think 7 Oclock may be too high, but maybe not. I need the full lyrics to really start to settle in on that one, retrograde, and never destination. And new album glow may be elevating some songs. And lack of familiarity may be holding some back. I can replay every second of every song in my head from S/T, Backspacer, and L-bolt. The only two songs on Gigaton I can do that for right now are the two singles.


Alright and Buckle Up are the big surprises. The quirkier songs are usually underrepresented in my rankings (parachutes and rival are the major exceptions), and the songs where Ed doesn't write lyrics usually get slammed. But those songs just work.
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Very interesting list Stip. Knowing how much you love this era of Pearl Jam, makes your votes for Gigaton quite a statement.
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