Seven O'Clock

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thats what infallible was about. these arent exclusive options. i think the way trump gets used is actually kind of surprising - these arent rants in the bushleaguer sense. he is treated structurally
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you're right, they're not mutually exclusive, we need both approaches, the problem is the favouring one over the other

I haven't looked at the Infallible lyrics hard enough, but the one song I always return to that explicitly calls out capitalism and the rich hoarding wealth is "Grievance"
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I wish he would have sang on the intro jam. It's similar to the daughter jam they do live
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for me the political stuff totally works here, because it's not "rant" as much as just one colour in the emotional landscape he's painting with the lyrics
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Ms Harmless wrote:you're right, they're not mutually exclusive, we need both approaches, the problem is the favouring one over the other

I haven't looked at the Infallible lyrics hard enough, but the one song I always return to that explicitly calls out capitalism and the rich hoarding wealth is "Grievance"
Agreed, and his strengths lean towards the more abstract approach. But I think these are more complicated than trump call outs. They are interacting with the songs other lyrics in interesting ways. Can’t Deny Me was just a call out


Still formulating my thoughts on this, though
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this one is a 4 and rising

really loving it now. feels like the album’s centerpiece.
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stip wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:you're right, they're not mutually exclusive, we need both approaches, the problem is the favouring one over the other

I haven't looked at the Infallible lyrics hard enough, but the one song I always return to that explicitly calls out capitalism and the rich hoarding wealth is "Grievance"
Agreed, and his strengths lean towards the more abstract approach. But I think these are more complicated than trump call outs. They are interacting with the songs other lyrics in interesting ways. Can’t Deny Me was just a call out


Still formulating my thoughts on this, though
totally, Can't Deny Me was superficial and one-dimensional
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My fav off the album. Superb melody.
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This is getting better and better for me with every listen. The last Pearl Jam album where repeated listening paid off for me was Riot Act. Feels good to feel that way about a PJ album again. :)
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fuck, im loving this one....the melody is beautiful and i love love Ed´s vocals...and that line of this fucked up situation...damn Ed.
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The chorus has anthemic Yield vibes while the intro sounds like Ten with doses of ambience.
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I get annoyed at these kinds of silly, idiosyncratic comparisons (and there's been many in the last few days!) but some quality in this song strangely and vaguely reminds me of Wild Mood Swings-era Cure.

I'm sorry, I had to get that thought out of my brain into the world.
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Birds in Hell wrote:I get annoyed at these kinds of silly, idiosyncratic comparisons (and there's been many in the last few days!) but some quality in this song strangely and vaguely reminds me of Wild Mood Swings-era Cure.

I'm sorry, I had to get that thought out of my brain into the world.
that synth line in the chorus annoyed me a lot until I realised it reminded me of the Cure
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Gigalogy84 wrote:The chorus has anthemic Yield vibes while the intro sounds like Ten with doses of ambience.
yeah, the ambience is there for sure...kinda like Footsteps. I missed it so much from recent songs.
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Birds in Hell wrote:I get annoyed at these kinds of silly, idiosyncratic comparisons (and there's been many in the last few days!) but some quality in this song strangely and vaguely reminds me of Wild Mood Swings-era Cure.

I'm sorry, I had to get that thought out of my brain into the world.
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Ms Harmless wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:I get annoyed at these kinds of silly, idiosyncratic comparisons (and there's been many in the last few days!) but some quality in this song strangely and vaguely reminds me of Wild Mood Swings-era Cure.

I'm sorry, I had to get that thought out of my brain into the world.
that synth line in the chorus annoyed me a lot until I realised it reminded me of the Cure
I don't hear any Cure influence in the chorus, actually. Someone on here compared that section to Duran Duran's Ordinary World and I definitely hear that.

It's the intro and verses I'm thinking of, something about the synth, the burbling electric guitar and rolling acoustic brings to mind some long-lost mid-90s Cure b-side.

I realise that's the part everyone else hears Springsteen in, but (thankfully) I get quite a different feel from it.
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Birds in Hell wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:I get annoyed at these kinds of silly, idiosyncratic comparisons (and there's been many in the last few days!) but some quality in this song strangely and vaguely reminds me of Wild Mood Swings-era Cure.

I'm sorry, I had to get that thought out of my brain into the world.
that synth line in the chorus annoyed me a lot until I realised it reminded me of the Cure
I don't hear any Cure influence in the chorus, actually. Someone on here compared that section to Duran Duran's Ordinary World and I definitely hear that.

It's the intro and verses I'm thinking of, something about the synth, the burbling electric guitar and rolling acoustic brings to mind some long-lost mid-90s Cure b-side.

I realise that's the part everyone else hears Springsteen in, but (thankfully) I get quite a different feel from it.
I definitely hear the Duran Duran too
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