steveddievedder wrote:I still don't understand what happened between Can't Deny Me and this album, the difference in (production AND song) quality is staggering. Having listened to this album consistently over the past few days I feel more and more confident it is one of their best yet. Interesting to me that it's an album that they probably could never have come up with 20+ years ago, but an album only a group hungry to prove something and make something interesting could create. Pretty amazing.
Enjoying Buckle Up more and more with each listen too, really sticking with me, what a great way to split the album. Can someone tell me what part of the vocal is Stone's? Surely not all of it?
A couple of the band members swing by here to read, from time to time. As they do with the Pit.
It's usually after releasing certain products, tracks, previews, tours, etc. They like to gauge some of the reactions.
CDM was me with a significant negative response. It caused the band to step back and review the scope of the album - which at the time was pending mastering and release.
The went "back to the drawing board" so to speak.
Rangi Guy wrote:So skating back to the train station after work today things went wrong.....now my skateboard is at the bottom of the harbour
steveddievedder wrote:I still don't understand what happened between Can't Deny Me and this album, the difference in (production AND song) quality is staggering. Having listened to this album consistently over the past few days I feel more and more confident it is one of their best yet. Interesting to me that it's an album that they probably could never have come up with 20+ years ago, but an album only a group hungry to prove something and make something interesting could create. Pretty amazing.
Enjoying Buckle Up more and more with each listen too, really sticking with me, what a great way to split the album. Can someone tell me what part of the vocal is Stone's? Surely not all of it?
A couple of the band members swing by here to read, from time to time. As they do with the Pit.
It's usually after releasing certain products, tracks, previews, tours, etc. They like to gauge some of the reactions.
CDM was me with a significant negative response. It caused the band to step back and review the scope of the album - which at the time was pending mastering and release.
The went "back to the drawing board" so to speak.
Josh Evans talks about starting this record in januari 2017. In their own GT studios (Warehouse). CDM was released about a year later in march 2018 citing BO'B as a producer. So somewhere along the line Josh became the producer. Im really curious about the timeline here. What was already recorded with BO'B before march 2018? It seems that only 1 or 2 (retrogade was mentioned) come from BO'B helmed sessions. What happened with BO'B? Everyone assumes the band stopped working with him. However it seems that he hasn''t produced any records since 2017!! He did the Prophets of Rage one and a Mastodon record, and that's it for the last 3 years!
And he sold all his publishing rights: https://completemusicupdate.com/article ... an-obrien/
So, Im starting to think that the band didnt quit BO'B, but B'OB quit the music industry...
steveddievedder wrote:I still don't understand what happened between Can't Deny Me and this album, the difference in (production AND song) quality is staggering. Having listened to this album consistently over the past few days I feel more and more confident it is one of their best yet. Interesting to me that it's an album that they probably could never have come up with 20+ years ago, but an album only a group hungry to prove something and make something interesting could create. Pretty amazing.
Enjoying Buckle Up more and more with each listen too, really sticking with me, what a great way to split the album. Can someone tell me what part of the vocal is Stone's? Surely not all of it?
A couple of the band members swing by here to read, from time to time. As they do with the Pit.
It's usually after releasing certain products, tracks, previews, tours, etc. They like to gauge some of the reactions.
CDM was me with a significant negative response. It caused the band to step back and review the scope of the album - which at the time was pending mastering and release.
The went "back to the drawing board" so to speak.
Correct. It's becoming apparent that the rumoured tracklisting that circulated earlier this year was from the aborted 2017-8 sessions.
1) Mother Earth
2) Dance Of The Clairvoyant
3) Of The Earth
4) Cold Confession
5) Can't Deny Me
6) Out Of Sand
7) You're Fired! (The President)
8) Mayday
9) Gigaton
10) 4 X 4
11) Christopher
"A man who doesn't spend time with the Jamily can never be a real man," - Don Corelone
steveddievedder wrote:I still don't understand what happened between Can't Deny Me and this album, the difference in (production AND song) quality is staggering. Having listened to this album consistently over the past few days I feel more and more confident it is one of their best yet. Interesting to me that it's an album that they probably could never have come up with 20+ years ago, but an album only a group hungry to prove something and make something interesting could create. Pretty amazing.
Enjoying Buckle Up more and more with each listen too, really sticking with me, what a great way to split the album. Can someone tell me what part of the vocal is Stone's? Surely not all of it?
A couple of the band members swing by here to read, from time to time. As they do with the Pit.
It's usually after releasing certain products, tracks, previews, tours, etc. They like to gauge some of the reactions.
CDM was me with a significant negative response. It caused the band to step back and review the scope of the album - which at the time was pending mastering and release.
The went "back to the drawing board" so to speak.
Correct. It's becoming apparent that the rumoured tracklisting that circulated earlier this year was from the aborted 2017-8 sessions.
1) Mother Earth
2) Dance Of The Clairvoyant
3) Of The Earth
4) Cold Confession
5) Can't Deny Me
6) Out Of Sand
7) You're Fired! (The President)
8) Mayday
9) Gigaton
10) 4 X 4
11) Christopher
theerrre he is!
Dev wrote:i love listening to the leaked pj song "last word".
steveddievedder wrote:I still don't understand what happened between Can't Deny Me and this album, the difference in (production AND song) quality is staggering. Having listened to this album consistently over the past few days I feel more and more confident it is one of their best yet. Interesting to me that it's an album that they probably could never have come up with 20+ years ago, but an album only a group hungry to prove something and make something interesting could create. Pretty amazing.
Enjoying Buckle Up more and more with each listen too, really sticking with me, what a great way to split the album. Can someone tell me what part of the vocal is Stone's? Surely not all of it?
A couple of the band members swing by here to read, from time to time. As they do with the Pit.
It's usually after releasing certain products, tracks, previews, tours, etc. They like to gauge some of the reactions.
CDM was me with a significant negative response. It caused the band to step back and review the scope of the album - which at the time was pending mastering and release.
The went "back to the drawing board" so to speak.
Correct. It's becoming apparent that the rumoured tracklisting that circulated earlier this year was from the aborted 2017-8 sessions.
1) Mother Earth
2) Dance Of The Clairvoyant
3) Of The Earth
4) Cold Confession
5) Can't Deny Me
6) Out Of Sand
7) You're Fired! (The President)
8) Mayday
9) Gigaton
10) 4 X 4
11) Christopher
theerrre he is!
Rangi Guy wrote:So skating back to the train station after work today things went wrong.....now my skateboard is at the bottom of the harbour
I feel it’s an album born of desperation, in so many ways.
Subject matter, personal/band relationships, tragedy, career trajectory, ever receding hairlines, mortality, touring keyboard player, Greek stalker, fear of failure and a fast acceleration of age.
It’s a perfect storm and god bless the person(s) who recognised this and put a stop to the utter shit they had been laying down. I suspect we’ll never know how the ship eventually found a course. Cue the LBC metaphors, but it really is a complete turnaround in form.
Lazy fucking bastards. Shame on them for wasting so many years. I love them but they need to be called out equally as much as they’re praised for this beautiful output.
Oh fuck, the ‘Pit’ is about to make us all hate this album...
Jeez wrote:I feel it’s an album born of desperation, in so many ways.
Subject matter, personal/band relationships, tragedy, career trajectory, ever receding hairlines, mortality, touring keyboard player, Greek stalker, fear of failure and a fast acceleration of age.
Dev wrote:i love listening to the leaked pj song "last word".
steveddievedder wrote:I still don't understand what happened between Can't Deny Me and this album, the difference in (production AND song) quality is staggering. Having listened to this album consistently over the past few days I feel more and more confident it is one of their best yet. Interesting to me that it's an album that they probably could never have come up with 20+ years ago, but an album only a group hungry to prove something and make something interesting could create. Pretty amazing.
Enjoying Buckle Up more and more with each listen too, really sticking with me, what a great way to split the album. Can someone tell me what part of the vocal is Stone's? Surely not all of it?
A couple of the band members swing by here to read, from time to time. As they do with the Pit.
It's usually after releasing certain products, tracks, previews, tours, etc. They like to gauge some of the reactions.
CDM was me with a significant negative response. It caused the band to step back and review the scope of the album - which at the time was pending mastering and release.
The went "back to the drawing board" so to speak.
Correct. It's becoming apparent that the rumoured tracklisting that circulated earlier this year was from the aborted 2017-8 sessions.
1) Mother Earth
steveddievedder wrote:I still don't understand what happened between Can't Deny Me and this album, the difference in (production AND song) quality is staggering. Having listened to this album consistently over the past few days I feel more and more confident it is one of their best yet. Interesting to me that it's an album that they probably could never have come up with 20+ years ago, but an album only a group hungry to prove something and make something interesting could create. Pretty amazing.
Enjoying Buckle Up more and more with each listen too, really sticking with me, what a great way to split the album. Can someone tell me what part of the vocal is Stone's? Surely not all of it?
A couple of the band members swing by here to read, from time to time. As they do with the Pit.
It's usually after releasing certain products, tracks, previews, tours, etc. They like to gauge some of the reactions.
CDM was me with a significant negative response. It caused the band to step back and review the scope of the album - which at the time was pending mastering and release.
The went "back to the drawing board" so to speak.
Correct. It's becoming apparent that the rumoured tracklisting that circulated earlier this year was from the aborted 2017-8 sessions.
1) Mother Earth
I now feel as if Backspacer and Lightning Bolt kind of represent an experiment to work through "new" parts and elements to a maturer sound, rather than a whole Pearl Jam; they play around (with mixed success) with fun and brightness, "friendliness" instead of bleakness, pop elements in the production and instrumentation; those elements don't start to become fully integrated into a complete PJ sound until this album, which sprinkles those into what we knew and loved about them before
Ms Harmless wrote:I also wrote this in another thread but:
I now feel as if Backspacer and Lightning Bolt kind of represent an experiment to work through "new" parts and elements to a maturer sound, rather than a whole Pearl Jam; they play around (with mixed success) with fun and brightness, "friendliness" instead of bleakness, pop elements in the production and instrumentation; those elements don't start to become fully integrated into a complete PJ sound until this album, which sprinkles those into what we knew and loved about them before
Great point....There's the career trajectory right there. If you read a lot about the creative process, you so often hear about a band sprinkling in different elements over the course of a couple of records in an attempt to creatively stretch and expand; some things that work, others that don't, but, you invariably get that album every few records where the reviewer will make some kind of cliched comment about all of the ingredients & experiments over the past few albums coalescing into a cohesive whole; I specifically recall that being said about Riot Act.
Seems like that's the case here. Can't wait to find out tomorrow.
We still make records to be listened to — not that everyone will listen to a record track one to twelve in a row or side A or Side B — but we still make 'em in case somebody does want to listen to it like that, that's how we make em…
Ms Harmless wrote:I also wrote this in another thread but:
I now feel as if Backspacer and Lightning Bolt kind of represent an experiment to work through "new" parts and elements to a maturer sound, rather than a whole Pearl Jam; they play around (with mixed success) with fun and brightness, "friendliness" instead of bleakness, pop elements in the production and instrumentation; those elements don't start to become fully integrated into a complete PJ sound until this album, which sprinkles those into what we knew and loved about them before
Great point....There's the career trajectory right there. If you read a lot about the creative process, you so often hear about a band sprinkling in different elements over the course of a couple of records in an attempt to creatively stretch and expand; some things that work, others that don't, but, you invariably get that album every few records where the reviewer will make some kind of cliched comment about all of the ingredients & experiments over the past few albums coalescing into a cohesive whole; I specifically recall that being said about Riot Act.
Seems like that's the case here. Can't wait to find out tomorrow.
there's every reason to hope for (perhaps not "expect") an even better album next time! is tomorrow your first listen? ooooh!
Ms Harmless wrote:I also wrote this in another thread but:
I now feel as if Backspacer and Lightning Bolt kind of represent an experiment to work through "new" parts and elements to a maturer sound, rather than a whole Pearl Jam; they play around (with mixed success) with fun and brightness, "friendliness" instead of bleakness, pop elements in the production and instrumentation; those elements don't start to become fully integrated into a complete PJ sound until this album, which sprinkles those into what we knew and loved about them before
Great point....There's the career trajectory right there. If you read a lot about the creative process, you so often hear about a band sprinkling in different elements over the course of a couple of records in an attempt to creatively stretch and expand; some things that work, others that don't, but, you invariably get that album every few records where the reviewer will make some kind of cliched comment about all of the ingredients & experiments over the past few albums coalescing into a cohesive whole; I specifically recall that being said about Riot Act.
Seems like that's the case here. Can't wait to find out tomorrow.
there's every reason to hope for (perhaps not "expect") an even better album next time! is tomorrow your first listen? ooooh!
I'll scream your name up here in Harford if mine arrives today.
