River Cross

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Rate River Cross

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Some really, really good songs here. Anyway, here's the definitive list:

Release
All Those Yesterdays
Around the Bend
Immortality
Indifference
River Cross
Parting Ways
All or None
Inside Job
The End
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man their album closers are some of their best songs.

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immortality
all those yesterdays
around the bend
parting ways
river cross
indifference
inside job
the end
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I listened to all the closers in order the other day. Love most of them with some obvious exceptions:

Release
Parting Ways
All Those Yesterdays
River Cross
All or None
Indifference

The End
Inside Job

Stupid Mop

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This one isn't grabbing me the way it has others. I need to listen more.
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i think this is a song that has to hit you at the right moment to lock you in. Read the news, lay down in the dark, take a moment to reflect on where your life is right now and where you want it to be, and then turn this on
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stip wrote:i think this is a song that has to hit you at the right moment to lock you in. Read the news, lay down in the dark, take a moment to reflect on where your life is right now and where you want it to be, and then turn this on
and think of peter gabriel.
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I wouldn't put this album above 8th place in their catalogue, but I'd put this song higher in my ranks of album closers
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Ms Harmless wrote:I wouldn't put this album above 8th place in their catalogue, but I'd put this song higher in my ranks of album closers
Really? You seem to really love this album and I’m kind of surprised you’d still put it near the bottom of their catalogue
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Strat wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:I wouldn't put this album above 8th place in their catalogue, but I'd put this song higher in my ranks of album closers
Really? You seem to really love this album and I’m kind of surprised you’d still put it near the bottom of their catalogue
I really do love this album, for what it represents: the very best of late-career Pearl Jam, bar none, and an album I can include with the first 7; the fact that it doesn't *break* those 7 is nothing against the album itself, and everything to do with my having pedestalled Ten through Riot Act as "canon", equal first place in my ranking - my favourite albums ever, of any band; I don't rank them, I wouldn't know how; that means Gigaton is "at the bottom" of an 8, and not moving up by default

I would rank the last 3

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really don't want to always associate this version with a Verizon commercial but I guess I do now...

that first live version into 'I'm So Tired' will always be the archetype in my mind... and love it

but oddly i might find myself avoiding this track on the album for a while .... I need time to disassociate it with Verizon
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96583UP wrote:really don't want to always associate this version with a Verizon commercial but I guess I do now...

that first live version into 'I'm So Tired' will always be the archetype in my mind... and love it

but oddly i might find myself avoiding this track on the album for a while .... I need time to disassociate it with Verizon
the good news is once you listen to the track 5 times, harrison ford evaporates.
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Immortality
Release
Indifference
Around the Bend
River Cross
All Those Yesterday’s
Inside Job
All or None
Parting Ways
The End
Future Days
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if this doesn't fit our current moment, i don't know what does.

Drifting off in the undertow
Can't spot a figure on dry land
And afterthoughts of safety
When in truth, none to be had
None to be had

I used to tell time by my shadow
'Til the thunderclouds, they took the stage
These days will end as do the light's rays
Another read of the same page

Wide awake through this deepest night
Still waiting on the sun
As the hours seem to multiply
Find a star to soldier on
Living beneath a lion's paw
Knowing nothing can be tamed
Can be tamed
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the way he sings these lines might be my favorite vocals of the record. powerful shit.

Here and now
Here and now
Can't hold me down
Can't hold me down
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I appreciate the delivery, but, find myself wishing, on early listening, that Ed had employed a bit more of the far away, atmospheric & powerful vocal from Retrograde here.

It would have fit the lyrical theme throughout the first half of the song.

Save the more intimate, closer to the mic vocal approach when the plea for unity & perseverance takes over.
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still having trouble with the percussion. and even the kalimba. they need some reverb, or they need to be moved back in the mix. something.

or maybe they could need to go altogether. and take the government verse that was shoe-horned in with you.

in other words.. i'm still liking the live solo version better
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Ms Harmless wrote:I wouldn't put this album above 8th place in their catalogue, but I'd put this song higher in my ranks of album closers
I feel the opposite. I like the album more than I like this song.
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dprival78 wrote:still having trouble with the percussion. and even the kalimba. they need some reverb, or they need to be moved back in the mix. something.
Loved the song, but, will admit that I did find the additional instrumentation a bit distracting on first listen. You're right, IMO, that they probably could've been a little lower on the fader. I LIKE the additions, though, they maybe could've been panned more to the sides of the soundstage to give some spaciousness?
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This could have done with a more Bon Iver approach. I appreciate what they've done (and it may well grow on me as time goes on) but I feel it's not subtle enough of a mix.
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when the dust settles this will be an Everybody Hurts style song for me. One I don’t listen to regularly to preserve its power when I do
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