Take the Long Way

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Take the Long Way

5 Stars
22
19%
4 Stars
46
40%
3 Stars
35
30%
2 Stars
9
8%
1 Star
3
3%
 
Total votes: 115

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Re: Take the Long Way

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Yup, still obsessed with this one.
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this is awesome
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Birds in Hell wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
WtOB? wrote:did they accidentally send a mix in to be mastered that didn't have bass or what?
this is the biggest fault of the album, what happened to this and Never Destination?
I think ND sounds just fine, but I genuinely believe the bass buss was unintentionally muted when they printed this mix.
I can hear the bass on headphones but yeah, it's definitely pulled way back in the mix.

One place I can hear it quite clearly is during the outro section which begins around the three minute mark, around 3:15-3:20 it seems to stick out a little more.

I can only think those thick fuzzy guitars (which don't really appear anywhere else on the album) would otherwise be fighting for low end space in the mix and so Josh made the call to let them take precedence.
there's just no need though. There's a billion ways to skin that cat and keep the bass in there. So odd. Can't wait to hear it live to see what Jeff is doing.
If Matt's previous songs are any indication, they'll attempt it, like, three times and never quite get it right.

Im going to believe that things are different now. For now.
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This one is climbing on my list order.
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the background vocals are hypnotic. my favorite part of the song
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Currently sitting as my second favorite song on Gigaton.
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My expectations were too high for this one. Solid 3.4 rating.
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Still really loving this one, and I feel like the Soundgarden comparison rings truer each time, beyond simply the song's raw compositional qualities. The little siren-like string bend during the pre-chorus of this song (0:52 in the video below) really reminds me of Kim Thayil -- he adds a similar embellishment during the verses of "Pretty Noose" (0:41 in the video below):


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Kevin Davis wrote:Still really loving this one, and I feel like the Soundgarden comparison rings truer each time, beyond simply the song's raw compositional qualities. The little siren-like string bend during the pre-chorus of this song (0:52 in the video below) really reminds me of Kim Thayil -- he adds a similar embellishment during the verses of "Pretty Noose"
Really great catch! Love it more each time. Definitely some "Let Me Drown/"My Wave" vibes coming through
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oneway23 wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:Still really loving this one, and I feel like the Soundgarden comparison rings truer each time, beyond simply the song's raw compositional qualities. The little siren-like string bend during the pre-chorus of this song (0:52 in the video below) really reminds me of Kim Thayil -- he adds a similar embellishment during the verses of "Pretty Noose"
Really great catch! Love it more each time. Definitely some "Let Me Drown/"My Wave" vibes coming through
I hear some similarities to the beginning of “Spoonman” in the intro as well.
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I love this one. Im revisiting Cameron´s Cavedweller and WWC´s Brotherhood Of The Electric
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This is a real late album gem. Dig it.
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PHATJ wrote:Currently sitting as my second favorite song on Gigaton.
Might be my favorite. This shit is just so tasty.
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Another great song and underrated on this forum going by the poll here. The ending in particular is memorable and a real highlight.
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PHATJ wrote:
PHATJ wrote:Currently sitting as my second favorite song on Gigaton.
Might be my favorite. This shit is just so tasty.
It's a top 3 for me, pretty much rotating constantly with "Dance of the Clairvoyants" and "Buckle Up." I love Matt's drumming on this -- maybe one of RM's drummers can explain the term (half-time? double-time?), but there's an almost 'subtly frantic' feel to his playing here that feels like its accelerating the tempo of the song without necessarily accelerating the pace of it (or maybe vice versa -- I'm not sure if any of it makes sense honestly). The song manages to feel irresistibly catchy and mathematically eccentric at the same time, all the more reason it reminds me of "Get Right."

I also still keep feeling like it's Kim Thayil playing that siren-like lead, not Mike.
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Kevin Davis wrote:I also still keep feeling like it's Kim Thayil playing that siren-like lead, not Mike.
I might be mistaken, but didn't someone say that it was Stone playing that part?
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Farmer John wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:I also still keep feeling like it's Kim Thayil playing that siren-like lead, not Mike.
I might be mistaken, but didn't someone say that it was Stone playing that part?
Oh, maybe.

I will say, this album has definitely subverted my 'who does what on a PJ album' expectations more than anything in their catalog thus far.
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Kevin Davis wrote:
PHATJ wrote:
PHATJ wrote:Currently sitting as my second favorite song on Gigaton.
Might be my favorite. This shit is just so tasty.
It's a top 3 for me, pretty much rotating constantly with "Dance of the Clairvoyants" and "Buckle Up." I love Matt's drumming on this -- maybe one of RM's drummers can explain the term (half-time? double-time?), but there's an almost 'subtly frantic' feel to his playing here that feels like its accelerating the tempo of the song without necessarily accelerating the pace of it (or maybe vice versa -- I'm not sure if any of it makes sense honestly). The song manages to feel irresistibly catchy and mathematically eccentric at the same time, all the more reason it reminds me of "Get Right."

I also still keep feeling like it's Kim Thayil playing that siren-like lead, not Mike.
"Get Right" and this song share a technique, in terms of rhythm / groove and how it creates that frantic feeling of "rushing ahead of itself"

the chorus of "Get right" drops half of its second bar, before the phrase repeats itself

so, instead of counting "1 2 3 4 / 1 2 3 4" through "wanted to get riiiiight", you're counting " 1 2 3 4 / 1 2 / 1 2 3 4 / 1 2" etc.

and this song is very similar, except you get three beats in the second bar of a phrase before it repeats (1 2 3 4 / 1 2 3 / 1 2 3 4 / 1 2 3), in everything *but* the chorus (which is all 4's, giving it a feeling of relative spaciousness, compared to the more claustrophobic, frenzied verses and pre-chorus)
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People on other forums are already complaining bitterly about this one.

God forbid Pearl Jam does something that isn't FM radio dreck.
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Kevin Davis wrote:
Farmer John wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:I also still keep feeling like it's Kim Thayil playing that siren-like lead, not Mike.
I might be mistaken, but didn't someone say that it was Stone playing that part?
Oh, maybe.

I will say, this album has definitely subverted my 'who does what on a PJ album' expectations more than anything in their catalog thus far.
I could be wrong. I definitely would have guessed it was Mike. It's a very Metal sounding lick. I love it.
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