Retrograde

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Jaeti wrote:
Farmer John wrote:This is the penultimate Gigaton track.
This is true for me, too.
I just checked the tracklist and yup
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Farmer John wrote:
Jaeti wrote:
Farmer John wrote:This is the penultimate Gigaton track.
This is true for me, too.
Can we get poll?
I think a surprising number of us would agree that this was the penultimate Gigaton track, if asked
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Farmer John wrote:This is the penultimate Gigaton track.
On my first listen, I thought the same thing about this track. Even 30 listens later, that has not changed.
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Ms Harmless wrote:
Farmer John wrote:
Jaeti wrote:
Farmer John wrote:This is the penultimate Gigaton track.
This is true for me, too.
Can we get poll?
I think a surprising number of us would agree that this was the penultimate Gigaton track, if asked
although not nearly the case when i listen on shuffle
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stip wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
Farmer John wrote:
Jaeti wrote:
Farmer John wrote:This is the penultimate Gigaton track.
This is true for me, too.
Can we get poll?
I think a surprising number of us would agree that this was the penultimate Gigaton track, if asked
although not nearly the case when i listen on shuffle
interesting observation! I shall have to experience this myself
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I can see there's somewhat of a collective shrug of the shoulders to this one here...it's certainly a retread and doesn't surprise me that this is the reaction it garners. It holds the same mood as Yellow Moon and Amongst The Waves - staring into the sunset across a barren wasteland, with Vedder's Into the Wild vocal reverb effects chucked onto the end.

I actually feel that people would feel a lot better about this if this was, at least officially, the album's closing notes. There's that grandiose aspect and a finality to the closing notes.

I'm probably alone on this but I really like it. River Cross doesn't belong on the album - it should be a b-side or something.
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OmegaprimeVKM wrote:I can see there's somewhat of a collective shrug of the shoulders to this one here...it's certainly a retread and doesn't surprise me that this is the reaction it garners. It holds the same mood as Yellow Moon and Amongst The Waves - staring into the sunset across a barren wasteland, with Vedder's Into the Wild vocal reverb effects chucked onto the end.

I actually feel that people would feel a lot better about this if this was, at least officially, the album's closing notes. There's that grandiose aspect and a finality to the closing notes.

I'm probably alone on this but I really like it. River Cross doesn't belong on the album - it should be a b-side or something.
I was like YES YES YES YES YES... NO! NO! like we were making love and it ended with you accidentally elbowing me in the face
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Whoever here mentioned the 90210 luck at 1.40, I can kinda see that, but man I love the ambience running from then until about 2.12.
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Ms Harmless wrote:
stip wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
Farmer John wrote:
Jaeti wrote:
Farmer John wrote:This is the penultimate Gigaton track.
This is true for me, too.
Can we get poll?
I think a surprising number of us would agree that this was the penultimate Gigaton track, if asked
although not nearly the case when i listen on shuffle
interesting observation! I shall have to experience this myself
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Ms Harmless wrote:
OmegaprimeVKM wrote:I can see there's somewhat of a collective shrug of the shoulders to this one here...it's certainly a retread and doesn't surprise me that this is the reaction it garners. It holds the same mood as Yellow Moon and Amongst The Waves - staring into the sunset across a barren wasteland, with Vedder's Into the Wild vocal reverb effects chucked onto the end.

I actually feel that people would feel a lot better about this if this was, at least officially, the album's closing notes. There's that grandiose aspect and a finality to the closing notes.

I'm probably alone on this but I really like it. River Cross doesn't belong on the album - it should be a b-side or something.
I was like YES YES YES YES YES... NO! NO! like we were making love and it ended with you accidentally elbowing me in the face
I like the way they fit together. Retrograde is so much more at peace with these struggles than the rest of the album, and River Cross is such a funeral, that they feel very effective.
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McParadigm wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
OmegaprimeVKM wrote:I can see there's somewhat of a collective shrug of the shoulders to this one here...it's certainly a retread and doesn't surprise me that this is the reaction it garners. It holds the same mood as Yellow Moon and Amongst The Waves - staring into the sunset across a barren wasteland, with Vedder's Into the Wild vocal reverb effects chucked onto the end.

I actually feel that people would feel a lot better about this if this was, at least officially, the album's closing notes. There's that grandiose aspect and a finality to the closing notes.

I'm probably alone on this but I really like it. River Cross doesn't belong on the album - it should be a b-side or something.
I was like YES YES YES YES YES... NO! NO! like we were making love and it ended with you accidentally elbowing me in the face
I like the way they fit together. Retrograde is so much more at peace with these struggles than the rest of the album, and River Cross is such a funeral, that they feel very effective.
absolutely, like a euphoric sublime thought that takes flight, but then comes back to earth with the reality of life
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theplatypus wrote:
Jaeti wrote:
Farmer John wrote:This is the penultimate Gigaton track.
This is true for me, too.
I just checked the tracklist and yup
Yep. Not central like Alright and 7 oclock, but the climactic track that releases alot of the tension of the album. A classic PJ moment that doesn't feel forced and fits the album very well.
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Tuolumne wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
Jaeti wrote:
Farmer John wrote:This is the penultimate Gigaton track.
This is true for me, too.
I just checked the tracklist and yup
Yep. Not central like Alright and 7 oclock, but the climactic track that releases alot of the tension of the album. A classic PJ moment that doesn't feel forced and fits the album very well.
Penultimate literally means “next to last” or “second to last”.
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PHATJ wrote:
Tuolumne wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
Jaeti wrote:
Farmer John wrote:This is the penultimate Gigaton track.
This is true for me, too.
I just checked the tracklist and yup
Yep. Not central like Alright and 7 oclock, but the climactic track that releases alot of the tension of the album. A classic PJ moment that doesn't feel forced and fits the album very well.
Penultimate literally means “next to last” or “second to last”.
and those songs are, in fact, central, so well played!
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"the more mistakes, the more resolved"

that's the brevity he could be reaching for far more often
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OmegaprimeVKM wrote:I can see there's somewhat of a collective shrug of the shoulders to this one here...it's certainly a retread and doesn't surprise me that this is the reaction it garners. It holds the same mood as Yellow Moon and Amongst The Waves - staring into the sunset across a barren wasteland, with Vedder's Into the Wild vocal reverb effects chucked onto the end.

I actually feel that people would feel a lot better about this if this was, at least officially, the album's closing notes. There's that grandiose aspect and a finality to the closing notes.

I'm probably alone on this but I really like it. River Cross doesn't belong on the album - it should be a b-side or something.
I'll give it a few more listens, but I also agree Retrograde would be improved as a closer, and that River Cross isn't that great but maybe I'll change my mind later.
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this baby sounds more like 70s folk-prog than LB
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This song would've served fine as the closing track of this album.

River Cross, while a nice song, I've found to be a bit of a chore to listen to by the time it comes up. It would have been a great one-off release a year or two ago.
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River Cross >>> Retrograde
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Yeah I’d take River Cross any day over this one. Retrograde still ain’t working for me.
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