Ed and Jeff on Bill Simmons Thursday

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Ed gets most of the shit on this board, but I can totally see Jeff being an ass/recluse at times. And I love Jeff!
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someone post the gif/video of jeff barging off stage in baltimore after ed "forgot" to acknowledge him
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Si, this was still the only interview/press the band did during the release of Gigaton?? And they mostly talked about sports....

Damn. I know those guys dont like press, but come one... I'm kinda looking forward to read some interviews.
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joostone wrote:Si, this was still the only interview/press the band did during the release of Gigaton?? And they mostly talked about sports....

Damn. I know those guys dont like press, but come one... I'm kinda looking forward to read some interviews.
This type of format is way better than a traditional, magazine/internet article. But yeah, one is such a tease.
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Also there's a worldwide pandemic thing going on, that probably threw a wrench into a few of their plans
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theplatypus wrote:Also there's a worldwide pandemic thing going on, that probably threw a wrench into a few of their plans
I bet they had planned to do SNL in March. To share Quick Escape for the first time that way
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Chris_H_2 wrote:someone post the gif/video of jeff barging off stage in baltimore after ed "forgot" to acknowledge him
Oh yeah i remember that. He stormed off the stage.
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VinylGuy wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:someone post the gif/video of jeff barging off stage in baltimore after ed "forgot" to acknowledge him
Oh yeah i remember that. He stormed off the stage.
What year are we talking about here?
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Tim wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:someone post the gif/video of jeff barging off stage in baltimore after ed "forgot" to acknowledge him
Oh yeah i remember that. He stormed off the stage.
What year are we talking about here?

mmm 2016?
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Lol that's more recent than I would have imagined.
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gardenparty wrote:
theplatypus wrote:Also there's a worldwide pandemic thing going on, that probably threw a wrench into a few of their plans
I bet they had planned to do SNL in March. To share Quick Escape for the first time that way
Yup.
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verb_to_trust wrote:
Bammer wrote:I would have bet my life savings on Simmons making the current-day Mookie Blaylock comparison to Patrick Beverley.
Mookie was so much better of a player than Pat Bev. It's a dumb and lazy comparison.
Ao who would go with - current player Mookie comparison.

I’ll be honest I really don’t recall watching him play. For some reason a name that pops into my head is Eric Bledsoe.
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Monkey_Driven wrote:Ed gets most of the shit on this board, but I can totally see Jeff being an ass/recluse at times. And I love Jeff!
The reason the band has lasted 30 years is directly related to Ed *not* being a self-centered d-bag. With the success they had (and his role in it), it would have been very easy for him to view himself as being above the other members of the band. He actually views all of the main guys as being equal to him, though.
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Bammer wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
Bammer wrote:I would have bet my life savings on Simmons making the current-day Mookie Blaylock comparison to Patrick Beverley.
Mookie was so much better of a player than Pat Bev. It's a dumb and lazy comparison.
Ao who would go with - current player Mookie comparison.

I’ll be honest I really don’t recall watching him play. For some reason a name that pops into my head is Eric Bledsoe.
mookie was a bad shooter, good passer, and great perimeter defender who led the league in steals for two seasons. he averaged 2.3 spg over a 13 year career. that's amazing. it's really hard to find a comp for that in today's NBA.

he's definitely better than beverley but i can see where the comparison is made.

bledsoe is a pretty good comp but he's a much better shooter.

statistically, the closest you can probably get is someone like ricky rubio (can't shoot, but will pass and steal the ball). but his style of play is not all that similar.

mookie was a unique player from a totally different NBA.
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evenslow wrote:
Bammer wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
Bammer wrote:I would have bet my life savings on Simmons making the current-day Mookie Blaylock comparison to Patrick Beverley.
Mookie was so much better of a player than Pat Bev. It's a dumb and lazy comparison.
Ao who would go with - current player Mookie comparison.

I’ll be honest I really don’t recall watching him play. For some reason a name that pops into my head is Eric Bledsoe.
mookie was a bad shooter, good passer, and great perimeter defender who led the league in steals for two seasons. he averaged 2.3 spg over a 13 year career. that's amazing. it's really hard to find a comp for that in today's NBA.

he's definitely better than beverley but i can see where the comparison is made.
The scrappiness and perimeter defense is where it makes sense to me, though, as you say, it's obviously not a like-for-like perfect fit.

That steal avg over the span of Mookie's career is a damn impressive stat, hand-checking notwithstanding.
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oneway23 wrote:
evenslow wrote:
Bammer wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
Bammer wrote:I would have bet my life savings on Simmons making the current-day Mookie Blaylock comparison to Patrick Beverley.
Mookie was so much better of a player than Pat Bev. It's a dumb and lazy comparison.
Ao who would go with - current player Mookie comparison.

I’ll be honest I really don’t recall watching him play. For some reason a name that pops into my head is Eric Bledsoe.
mookie was a bad shooter, good passer, and great perimeter defender who led the league in steals for two seasons. he averaged 2.3 spg over a 13 year career. that's amazing. it's really hard to find a comp for that in today's NBA.

he's definitely better than beverley but i can see where the comparison is made.
The scrappiness and perimeter defense is where it makes sense to me, though, as you say, it's obviously not a like-for-like perfect fit.

That steal avg over the span of Mookie's career is a damn impressive stat, hand-checking notwithstanding.
So the Beverley comparison is a good one, Simmons is right, Verb is wrong. Got it.
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Bammer wrote:
oneway23 wrote:
evenslow wrote:
Bammer wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
Bammer wrote:I would have bet my life savings on Simmons making the current-day Mookie Blaylock comparison to Patrick Beverley.
Mookie was so much better of a player than Pat Bev. It's a dumb and lazy comparison.
Ao who would go with - current player Mookie comparison.

I’ll be honest I really don’t recall watching him play. For some reason a name that pops into my head is Eric Bledsoe.
mookie was a bad shooter, good passer, and great perimeter defender who led the league in steals for two seasons. he averaged 2.3 spg over a 13 year career. that's amazing. it's really hard to find a comp for that in today's NBA.

he's definitely better than beverley but i can see where the comparison is made.
The scrappiness and perimeter defense is where it makes sense to me, though, as you say, it's obviously not a like-for-like perfect fit.

That steal avg over the span of Mookie's career is a damn impressive stat, hand-checking notwithstanding.
So the Beverley comparison is a good one, Simmons is right, Verb is wrong. Got it.
Thought that was fair, unless, as Verb says, I've made a dumb and/or lazy comparison (which is entirely possible) ...It's not like Simmons said Harden, who is an absolute matador...I enjoyed watching Mookie more as a player, but, that's neither here nor there, though, I admittedly find the NBA to be a zombie league these days compared to generations past, so, mine isn't the most objective of responses, either.
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oneway23 wrote:
Bammer wrote:
oneway23 wrote:
evenslow wrote:
Bammer wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
Bammer wrote:I would have bet my life savings on Simmons making the current-day Mookie Blaylock comparison to Patrick Beverley.
Mookie was so much better of a player than Pat Bev. It's a dumb and lazy comparison.
Ao who would go with - current player Mookie comparison.

I’ll be honest I really don’t recall watching him play. For some reason a name that pops into my head is Eric Bledsoe.
mookie was a bad shooter, good passer, and great perimeter defender who led the league in steals for two seasons. he averaged 2.3 spg over a 13 year career. that's amazing. it's really hard to find a comp for that in today's NBA.

he's definitely better than beverley but i can see where the comparison is made.
The scrappiness and perimeter defense is where it makes sense to me, though, as you say, it's obviously not a like-for-like perfect fit.

That steal avg over the span of Mookie's career is a damn impressive stat, hand-checking notwithstanding.
So the Beverley comparison is a good one, Simmons is right, Verb is wrong. Got it.
Thought that was fair, unless, as Verb says, I've made a dumb and/or lazy comparison (which is entirely possible) ...It's not like Simmons said Harden, who is an absolute matador...I enjoyed watching Mookie more as a player, but, that's neither here nor there, though, I admittedly find the NBA to be a zombie league these days compared to generations past, so, mine isn't the most objective of responses, either.
Verb was wrong. It’s cool, man. Relax.
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Bammer wrote:
oneway23 wrote:
Bammer wrote:
oneway23 wrote:
evenslow wrote:
Bammer wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
Bammer wrote:I would have bet my life savings on Simmons making the current-day Mookie Blaylock comparison to Patrick Beverley.
Mookie was so much better of a player than Pat Bev. It's a dumb and lazy comparison.
Ao who would go with - current player Mookie comparison.

I’ll be honest I really don’t recall watching him play. For some reason a name that pops into my head is Eric Bledsoe.
mookie was a bad shooter, good passer, and great perimeter defender who led the league in steals for two seasons. he averaged 2.3 spg over a 13 year career. that's amazing. it's really hard to find a comp for that in today's NBA.

he's definitely better than beverley but i can see where the comparison is made.
The scrappiness and perimeter defense is where it makes sense to me, though, as you say, it's obviously not a like-for-like perfect fit.

That steal avg over the span of Mookie's career is a damn impressive stat, hand-checking notwithstanding.
So the Beverley comparison is a good one, Simmons is right, Verb is wrong. Got it.
Thought that was fair, unless, as Verb says, I've made a dumb and/or lazy comparison (which is entirely possible) ...It's not like Simmons said Harden, who is an absolute matador...I enjoyed watching Mookie more as a player, but, that's neither here nor there, though, I admittedly find the NBA to be a zombie league these days compared to generations past, so, mine isn't the most objective of responses, either.
Verb was wrong. It’s cool, man. Relax.
The hell are you on about? Not interested in "right or wrong", merely continuing a conversation for something to shoot the shit about...simmer down
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