I didn't say it had anything to do with the virus, I said that by accidents of fate, it fits the times and would be a good way of working because of the virus; the album was recorded before the pandemic, and its recording method was unusual for the times even if the times make it possiblemikejasond wrote:From what I understand this is much more standard now and has nothing to do with the virus, and just how the world has changed since the 90sdurdencommatyler wrote:GREAT fucking point. Absolutely.Ms Harmless wrote:also, it's really weird that the fact they recorded it (mostly) remotely and "socially distant", adds to this "accidental" premise and makes the approach totally contemporary, where a couple of years ago it might have felt like an embarrassment, a band uninterested; the world has changed so much since this virus, that I don't think I'd be mad if they followed this recording template in future
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i'm not sure if recording remotely is that unusual anymore. honestly, i thought they did alot of the last 2 records that way. wasnt 'the fixer' a completely different song until eddie vedder ruined it by himself? and i thought pendulum was left over from backspacer and revamped by EV.Ms Harmless wrote:I didn't say it had anything to do with the virus, I said that by accidents of fate, it fits the times and would be a good way of working because of the virus; the album was recorded before the pandemic, and its recording method was unusual for the times even if the times make it possiblemikejasond wrote:From what I understand this is much more standard now and has nothing to do with the virus, and just how the world has changed since the 90sdurdencommatyler wrote:GREAT fucking point. Absolutely.Ms Harmless wrote:also, it's really weird that the fact they recorded it (mostly) remotely and "socially distant", adds to this "accidental" premise and makes the approach totally contemporary, where a couple of years ago it might have felt like an embarrassment, a band uninterested; the world has changed so much since this virus, that I don't think I'd be mad if they followed this recording template in future
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Keeping this in mind, now feels like the perfect time for them to break their "let's wait 5-7 years between albums" cycle...Ms Harmless wrote:I didn't say it had anything to do with the virus, I said that by accidents of fate, it fits the times and would be a good way of working because of the virus; the album was recorded before the pandemic, and its recording method was unusual for the times even if the times make it possiblemikejasond wrote:From what I understand this is much more standard now and has nothing to do with the virus, and just how the world has changed since the 90sdurdencommatyler wrote:GREAT fucking point. Absolutely.Ms Harmless wrote:also, it's really weird that the fact they recorded it (mostly) remotely and "socially distant", adds to this "accidental" premise and makes the approach totally contemporary, where a couple of years ago it might have felt like an embarrassment, a band uninterested; the world has changed so much since this virus, that I don't think I'd be mad if they followed this recording template in future
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yes, totallyKevin Davis wrote:Keeping this in mind, now feels like the perfect time for them to break their "let's wait 5-7 years between albums" cycle...Ms Harmless wrote:I didn't say it had anything to do with the virus, I said that by accidents of fate, it fits the times and would be a good way of working because of the virus; the album was recorded before the pandemic, and its recording method was unusual for the times even if the times make it possiblemikejasond wrote:From what I understand this is much more standard now and has nothing to do with the virus, and just how the world has changed since the 90sdurdencommatyler wrote:GREAT fucking point. Absolutely.Ms Harmless wrote:also, it's really weird that the fact they recorded it (mostly) remotely and "socially distant", adds to this "accidental" premise and makes the approach totally contemporary, where a couple of years ago it might have felt like an embarrassment, a band uninterested; the world has changed so much since this virus, that I don't think I'd be mad if they followed this recording template in future
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your evaluation of who ruined what may be correct, but we didn't hear "we mostly all stayed at home and emailed each other our recorded parts and made songs that way, over years" until this album, Gigaton; O'Brien's way, we've been told, was to hire out a studio for 2 weeks and bash out an album as fast as possible; Gigaton's recording method seems relatively new and of the times, based on two massive interviews with Josh Evans where he detailed the process; as I said before, I know other bands record this way, Meshuggah specifically, but I'm not wrong when I say it's relatively unusual and "of the times"warehouse wrote:i'm not sure if recording remotely is that unusual anymore. honestly, i thought they did alot of the last 2 records that way. wasnt 'the fixer' a completely different song until eddie vedder ruined it by himself? and i thought pendulum was left over from backspacer and revamped by EV.Ms Harmless wrote:I didn't say it had anything to do with the virus, I said that by accidents of fate, it fits the times and would be a good way of working because of the virus; the album was recorded before the pandemic, and its recording method was unusual for the times even if the times make it possiblemikejasond wrote:From what I understand this is much more standard now and has nothing to do with the virus, and just how the world has changed since the 90sdurdencommatyler wrote:GREAT fucking point. Absolutely.Ms Harmless wrote:also, it's really weird that the fact they recorded it (mostly) remotely and "socially distant", adds to this "accidental" premise and makes the approach totally contemporary, where a couple of years ago it might have felt like an embarrassment, a band uninterested; the world has changed so much since this virus, that I don't think I'd be mad if they followed this recording template in future
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It's funny that we are talking about recording remotely in the thread of the only song that Josh admitted that were recorded live together in the same room. 
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i was under the impression the process was similar with obrien, in that they all brought in prerecorded or prewritten stuff to the studio. at least i was under that impression with the last 2 albums. that is different than gigaton, but still similar. whatever they did different for this album than the last two, they should continue.Ms Harmless wrote:your evaluation of who ruined what may be correct, but we didn't hear "we mostly all stayed at home and emailed each other our recorded parts and made songs that way, over years" until this album, Gigaton; O'Brien's way, we've been told, was to hire out a studio for 2 weeks and bash out an album as fast as possible; Gigaton's recording method seems relatively new and of the times, based on two massive interviews with Josh Evans where he detailed the process; as I said before, I know other bands record this way, Meshuggah specifically, but I'm not wrong when I say it's relatively unusual and "of the times"warehouse wrote:i'm not sure if recording remotely is that unusual anymore. honestly, i thought they did alot of the last 2 records that way. wasnt 'the fixer' a completely different song until eddie vedder ruined it by himself? and i thought pendulum was left over from backspacer and revamped by EV.Ms Harmless wrote:I didn't say it had anything to do with the virus, I said that by accidents of fate, it fits the times and would be a good way of working because of the virus; the album was recorded before the pandemic, and its recording method was unusual for the times even if the times make it possiblemikejasond wrote:From what I understand this is much more standard now and has nothing to do with the virus, and just how the world has changed since the 90sdurdencommatyler wrote:GREAT fucking point. Absolutely.Ms Harmless wrote:also, it's really weird that the fact they recorded it (mostly) remotely and "socially distant", adds to this "accidental" premise and makes the approach totally contemporary, where a couple of years ago it might have felt like an embarrassment, a band uninterested; the world has changed so much since this virus, that I don't think I'd be mad if they followed this recording template in future
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Johnny Turner wrote:It's funny that we are talking about recording remotely in the thread of the only song that Josh admitted that were recorded live together in the same room.
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"that is different than Gigaton"warehouse wrote:i was under the impression the process was similar with obrien, in that they all brought in prerecorded or prewritten stuff to the studio. at least i was under that impression with the last 2 albums. that is different than gigaton, but still similar. whatever they did different for this album than the last two, they should continue.Ms Harmless wrote:your evaluation of who ruined what may be correct, but we didn't hear "we mostly all stayed at home and emailed each other our recorded parts and made songs that way, over years" until this album, Gigaton; O'Brien's way, we've been told, was to hire out a studio for 2 weeks and bash out an album as fast as possible; Gigaton's recording method seems relatively new and of the times, based on two massive interviews with Josh Evans where he detailed the process; as I said before, I know other bands record this way, Meshuggah specifically, but I'm not wrong when I say it's relatively unusual and "of the times"warehouse wrote:i'm not sure if recording remotely is that unusual anymore. honestly, i thought they did alot of the last 2 records that way. wasnt 'the fixer' a completely different song until eddie vedder ruined it by himself? and i thought pendulum was left over from backspacer and revamped by EV.Ms Harmless wrote:I didn't say it had anything to do with the virus, I said that by accidents of fate, it fits the times and would be a good way of working because of the virus; the album was recorded before the pandemic, and its recording method was unusual for the times even if the times make it possiblemikejasond wrote:From what I understand this is much more standard now and has nothing to do with the virus, and just how the world has changed since the 90sdurdencommatyler wrote:GREAT fucking point. Absolutely.Ms Harmless wrote:also, it's really weird that the fact they recorded it (mostly) remotely and "socially distant", adds to this "accidental" premise and makes the approach totally contemporary, where a couple of years ago it might have felt like an embarrassment, a band uninterested; the world has changed so much since this virus, that I don't think I'd be mad if they followed this recording template in future
thank you! the difference being, a studio and live band were involved more often than not
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you're welcome, what do you think about the words after that quote? i mean if you want to be super specific i'm sure every album was recorded differently. this just seems like a....logical extension of their previous recording process?Ms Harmless wrote:"that is different than Gigaton"warehouse wrote:i was under the impression the process was similar with obrien, in that they all brought in prerecorded or prewritten stuff to the studio. at least i was under that impression with the last 2 albums. that is different than gigaton, but still similar. whatever they did different for this album than the last two, they should continue.Ms Harmless wrote:your evaluation of who ruined what may be correct, but we didn't hear "we mostly all stayed at home and emailed each other our recorded parts and made songs that way, over years" until this album, Gigaton; O'Brien's way, we've been told, was to hire out a studio for 2 weeks and bash out an album as fast as possible; Gigaton's recording method seems relatively new and of the times, based on two massive interviews with Josh Evans where he detailed the process; as I said before, I know other bands record this way, Meshuggah specifically, but I'm not wrong when I say it's relatively unusual and "of the times"warehouse wrote:i'm not sure if recording remotely is that unusual anymore. honestly, i thought they did alot of the last 2 records that way. wasnt 'the fixer' a completely different song until eddie vedder ruined it by himself? and i thought pendulum was left over from backspacer and revamped by EV.Ms Harmless wrote:I didn't say it had anything to do with the virus, I said that by accidents of fate, it fits the times and would be a good way of working because of the virus; the album was recorded before the pandemic, and its recording method was unusual for the times even if the times make it possiblemikejasond wrote:From what I understand this is much more standard now and has nothing to do with the virus, and just how the world has changed since the 90sdurdencommatyler wrote:GREAT fucking point. Absolutely.Ms Harmless wrote:also, it's really weird that the fact they recorded it (mostly) remotely and "socially distant", adds to this "accidental" premise and makes the approach totally contemporary, where a couple of years ago it might have felt like an embarrassment, a band uninterested; the world has changed so much since this virus, that I don't think I'd be mad if they followed this recording template in future
thank you! the difference being, a studio and live band were involved more often than not
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you're literally just being an asshole at this pointwarehouse wrote:you're welcome, what do you think about the words after that quote? i mean if you want to be super specific i'm sure every album was recorded differently. this just seems like a....logical extension of their previous recording process?Ms Harmless wrote:"that is different than Gigaton"warehouse wrote:i was under the impression the process was similar with obrien, in that they all brought in prerecorded or prewritten stuff to the studio. at least i was under that impression with the last 2 albums. that is different than gigaton, but still similar. whatever they did different for this album than the last two, they should continue.Ms Harmless wrote:your evaluation of who ruined what may be correct, but we didn't hear "we mostly all stayed at home and emailed each other our recorded parts and made songs that way, over years" until this album, Gigaton; O'Brien's way, we've been told, was to hire out a studio for 2 weeks and bash out an album as fast as possible; Gigaton's recording method seems relatively new and of the times, based on two massive interviews with Josh Evans where he detailed the process; as I said before, I know other bands record this way, Meshuggah specifically, but I'm not wrong when I say it's relatively unusual and "of the times"warehouse wrote:i'm not sure if recording remotely is that unusual anymore. honestly, i thought they did alot of the last 2 records that way. wasnt 'the fixer' a completely different song until eddie vedder ruined it by himself? and i thought pendulum was left over from backspacer and revamped by EV.Ms Harmless wrote:I didn't say it had anything to do with the virus, I said that by accidents of fate, it fits the times and would be a good way of working because of the virus; the album was recorded before the pandemic, and its recording method was unusual for the times even if the times make it possiblemikejasond wrote:From what I understand this is much more standard now and has nothing to do with the virus, and just how the world has changed since the 90sdurdencommatyler wrote:GREAT fucking point. Absolutely.Ms Harmless wrote:also, it's really weird that the fact they recorded it (mostly) remotely and "socially distant", adds to this "accidental" premise and makes the approach totally contemporary, where a couple of years ago it might have felt like an embarrassment, a band uninterested; the world has changed so much since this virus, that I don't think I'd be mad if they followed this recording template in future
thank you! the difference being, a studio and live band were involved more often than not
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relax it was a joke.
i enjoy the second half of this song much more then the first, but its still exciting to hear pearl jam doing this kinda stuff.
i enjoy the second half of this song much more then the first, but its still exciting to hear pearl jam doing this kinda stuff.
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LMFAOwarehouse wrote:relax it was a joke.
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I love the third "Gave up on satisfaction!" Also the "surrender the wish we'll be together again, but I won't give up" part.
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geez you are really hung up on this huh? we just have different opinions, its not a right/wrong thing.Ms Harmless wrote:LMFAOwarehouse wrote:relax it was a joke.
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precisely, and you literally told me I was wrong more than once; my laughing at you doesn't indicate my needing to "relax"warehouse wrote:geez you are really hung up on this huh? we just have different opinions, its not a right/wrong thing.Ms Harmless wrote:LMFAOwarehouse wrote:relax it was a joke.
my point was this: we're all social distancing, and this album was created largely in a socially distant way, which is a funny coincidence and adds to the album's aesthetic
you couldn't just leave that alone?
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I’ve gotten to the point that I just love all of this song. It all holds up. It’s all interesting and building momentum. What a great way to start the album.Leatherhead wrote:I love the third "Gave up on satisfaction!" Also the "surrender the wish we'll be together again, but I won't give up" part.
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I wish the intro was more interesting
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i literally never used the word "wrong" b.c this is a matter of opinion. i would say you need to relax considering after i changed the subject and tried to return to talking about the song in the title of the thread, you quoted me in a condescending way. we have different opinions. i dont think this is the first time the band recorded with a "social distance" between them. i'm sorry that this offended you in such a horrific way you cannot just drop the subject and move on to discussing "who ever said". have a great day.Ms Harmless wrote:precisely, and you literally told me I was wrong more than once; my laughing at you doesn't indicate my needing to "relax"warehouse wrote:geez you are really hung up on this huh? we just have different opinions, its not a right/wrong thing.Ms Harmless wrote:LMFAOwarehouse wrote:relax it was a joke.
my point was this: we're all social distancing, and this album was created largely in a socially distant way, which is a funny coincidence and adds to the album's aesthetic
you couldn't just leave that alone?
this should slide in nicely early in live sets. i'm wondering/hoping they jam out the end a little bit longer.
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LOLwarehouse wrote:i literally never used the word "wrong" b.c this is a matter of opinion. i would say you need to relax considering after i changed the subject and tried to return to talking about the song in the title of the thread, you quoted me in a condescending way. we have different opinions. i dont think this is the first time the band recorded with a "social distance" between them. i'm sorry that this offended you in such a horrific way you cannot just drop the subject and move on to discussing "who ever said". have a great day.Ms Harmless wrote:precisely, and you literally told me I was wrong more than once; my laughing at you doesn't indicate my needing to "relax"warehouse wrote:geez you are really hung up on this huh? we just have different opinions, its not a right/wrong thing.Ms Harmless wrote:LMFAOwarehouse wrote:relax it was a joke.
my point was this: we're all social distancing, and this album was created largely in a socially distant way, which is a funny coincidence and adds to the album's aesthetic
you couldn't just leave that alone?
this should slide in nicely early in live sets. i'm wondering/hoping they jam out the end a little bit longer.