Anybody want a Corona?

[Orpheus]

One of our co-owners travels 4 hours away from his wife and three small kids at home so he can work in the mines in northern Minnesota Monday-Friday. He is only able to be home on the weekends. According to the ideas of people here he is “endangering” his family by working. But he must do so. Our business isn’t “essential” enough for it to be open, and he isn’t getting any government assistance, so his hands are tied. He has to provide. This is not an abnormal situation. Millions of families and small businesses are being put in similar or worse situations. And for what? People are working anyway, now they are just financially burdened and forced to work in less than desirable situations, when a perfectly viable and lucrative business/job has been stripped away from them do to no fault of their own.

This is the point I've been trying to make: WHY isn't getting assistance? WHY isn't there a safety net for this situation where y'all live? You're absolutely right that this is happening due to no fault of his own. So WHY is he being punished? For the millionth time: why is the onus on y'all to return to work instead of receiving assistance in a distaster?

[doug rr]

[B]

[PHATJ]

Only selfish white privileged fuck twats can bitch about how this is oppression.

My god.

This world is fucked. Verb and Burt are right. Lets just burn this to the ground.

Plandumbic movie going to be posted next, yea?

Only ignorant, selfish, privelaged, fucktards, allow their overlords to strip their liberties and rights because it makes them feel safe and superior. This is moronic behavior to the core.

What civil liberties and rights are being denied you right now?

My right to work in my chosen profession has been stripped for nearly two months.

IIRC, you sold your stake in your business and were unemployed before all this hit, so how did the government take this away from you?

Why are you refusing to answer my question?

I never saw your question. I did sell my stake and I was unemployed. That was many months ago. Since then, I went back to work. I have a new position and minority ownership in a small company. We have a group of employees that want to work. I don’t have a single employee at my company that would like to continue with the mandatory shutdown we remain under. Some of my employees have left our company in order to find “essential” work elsewhere. One of our co-owners travels 4 hours away from his wife and three small kids at home so he can work in the mines in northern Minnesota Monday-Friday. He is only able to be home on the weekends. According to the ideas of people here he is “endangering” his family by working. But he must do so. Our business isn’t “essential” enough for it to be open, and he isn’t getting any government assistance, so his hands are tied. He has to provide. This is not an abnormal situation. Millions of families and small businesses are being put in similar or worse situations. And for what? People are working anyway, now they are just financially burdened and forced to work in less than desirable situations, when a perfectly viable and lucrative business/job has been stripped away from them do to no fault of their own.

Well lookie here, I found your problem right there.

He shouldn’t have to be forced and coerced into relying on the government in the first place. And he isn’t. He’s working.

[doug rr]

i quit

[B]

Fucking Opheus.

[B]

i quit

[B]

Giving support to those who stay home and protect citizens is the hallmark of any tyrannical regime.

[Orpheus]

Serious question, PHATJ: if a tornado/flood/fire decimated your area, would you not want government assistance? Why not? Do you see where I'm going with this?

[Mickey]

Only selfish white privileged fuck twats can bitch about how this is oppression.

My god.

This world is fucked. Verb and Burt are right. Lets just burn this to the ground.

Plandumbic movie going to be posted next, yea?

Only ignorant, selfish, privelaged, fucktards, allow their overlords to strip their liberties and rights because it makes them feel safe and superior. This is moronic behavior to the core.

What civil liberties and rights are being denied you right now?

My right to work in my chosen profession has been stripped for nearly two months.

IIRC, you sold your stake in your business and were unemployed before all this hit, so how did the government take this away from you?

Why are you refusing to answer my question?

I never saw your question. I did sell my stake and I was unemployed. That was many months ago. Since then, I went back to work. I have a new position and minority ownership in a small company. We have a group of employees that want to work. I don’t have a single employee at my company that would like to continue with the mandatory shutdown we remain under. Some of my employees have left our company in order to find “essential” work elsewhere. One of our co-owners travels 4 hours away from his wife and three small kids at home so he can work in the mines in northern Minnesota Monday-Friday. He is only able to be home on the weekends. According to the ideas of people here he is “endangering” his family by working. But he must do so. Our business isn’t “essential” enough for it to be open, and he isn’t getting any government assistance, so his hands are tied. He has to provide. This is not an abnormal situation. Millions of families and small businesses are being put in similar or worse situations. And for what? People are working anyway, now they are just financially burdened and forced to work in less than desirable situations, when a perfectly viable and lucrative business/job has been stripped away from them do to no fault of their own.

Well lookie here, I found your problem right there.

He shouldn’t have to be forced and coerced into relying on the government in the first place. And he isn’t. He’s working.

Are you really, truly unable to see that he is *already* coerced into "relying" on the government by way of a public health crisis?

[PHATJ]

One of our co-owners travels 4 hours away from his wife and three small kids at home so he can work in the mines in northern Minnesota Monday-Friday. He is only able to be home on the weekends. According to the ideas of people here he is “endangering” his family by working. But he must do so. Our business isn’t “essential” enough for it to be open, and he isn’t getting any government assistance, so his hands are tied. He has to provide. This is not an abnormal situation. Millions of families and small businesses are being put in similar or worse situations. And for what? People are working anyway, now they are just financially burdened and forced to work in less than desirable situations, when a perfectly viable and lucrative business/job has been stripped away from them do to no fault of their own.

This is the point I've been trying to make: WHY isn't getting assistance? WHY isn't there a safety net for this situation where y'all live? You're absolutely right that this is happening due to no fault of his own. So WHY is he being punished? For the millionth time: why is the onus on y'all to return to work instead of receiving assistance in a distaster?

He’s not getting assistance because he doesn’t qualify. He doesn’t qualify because his income was too high before the lockdown order. My brother, who is 37, married with four kids, is in the exact same situation. He doesn’t qualify for anything either. So not only has the government forced him into unemployment, he doesn’t qualify to receive unemployment benefits. With six months to feed three times a day, you can’t go several months without an opportunity to make a living and just be ok with the situation. In my brother’s situation, he’s been traveling to South Dakota on a weekly basis and conducting business from there because they didn’t do a lockdown (and the population is so happy there that they are throwing a parade for their governor because she didn’t succumb to pressure to shut the state down).

[tree_]

ppl should definitely be allowed to work if they want to

they should be strongly advised to stay home if they fit the criteria of being high risk

the mortality rate is actually much lower than previously approximated

hospitals were lying about corona related deaths

[Mickey]

I see another knowledge_haver has logged on.

[PHATJ]

Serious question, PHATJ: if a tornado/flood/fire decimated your area, would you not want government assistance? Why not? Do you see where I'm going with this?

It would depend on the circumstances, I guess. Why don’t you tell me where you’re going with this line of questioning.

[Peeps]

ppl should definitely be allowed to work if they want to

they should be strongly advised to stay home if they fit the criteria of being high risk

the mortality rate is actually much lower than previously approximated

hospitals were lying about corona related deaths

1. not really. its up to the owners. if they say you can work and you do so, a waiver should be signed that states if you get covid you waive any compensation for your troubles
2. agree
3. 20K a month isnt really lower. also dont you think the practice of social distancing and staying away from work might have something to do with it?
4. they are lying about as much about it as the president says there were illegals voting

[Peeps]

blah

[PHATJ]

I see another knowledge_haver has logged on.

What makes you the authority on “knowledge_having”, Mick? Are you the only person allowed to claim they have any insight into anything?

[Mickey]

I see another knowledge_haver has logged on.

What makes you the authority on “knowledge_having”, Mick? Are you the only person allowed to claim they have any insight into anything?

I thought you didn't read my posts, sweetheart!

[tree_]

ppl should definitely be allowed to work if they want to

they should be strongly advised to stay home if they fit the criteria of being high risk

the mortality rate is actually much lower than previously approximated

hospitals were lying about corona related deaths

1. not really. its up to the owners. if they say you can work and you do so, a waiver should be signed that states if you get covid you waive any compensation for your troubles
2. agree
3. 20K a month isnt really lower. also dont you think the practice of social distancing and staying away from work might have something to do with it?
4. they are lying about as much about it as the president says there were illegals voting

I honestly just watched Elon Musk on Joe Rogan and repeated his thoughts here. I don't know what source to believe but I trust Musk more than CNN. Love that guy. Can't wait for neuralink.

[Monkey_Driven]

ppl should definitely be allowed to work if they want to

they should be strongly advised to stay home if they fit the criteria of being high risk

the mortality rate is actually much lower than previously approximated

hospitals were lying about corona related deaths

1. not really. its up to the owners. if they say you can work and you do so, a waiver should be signed that states if you get covid you waive any compensation for your troubles
2. agree
3. 20K a month isnt really lower. also dont you think the practice of social distancing and staying away from work might have something to do with it?
4. they are lying about as much about it as the president says there were illegals voting

I honestly just watched Elon Musk on Joe Rogan and repeated his thoughts here. I don't know what source to believe but I trust Musk more than CNN. Love that guy. Can't wait for neuralink.