Lightning Bolt: the official album thread

[harmless]

that's possible.

There are certainly some readily identifiable classic rock influences in this. That's the music our parents listened to when they were young, and still listen to when they are old, and so we make that connection.

I think the elephant in the room here, though, is that MOR classic rock bands are what PJ listened to. It makes perfect sense that as they grow older, they will want to sound like their heroes of their youth. And for Mike, one of those hero-bands is KISS. For Ed, it's The Who. For me, all of my life, Pearl Jam will exist amongst my heroes. So if I still had a band (I don't) I would be playing early PJ-influenced stuff till I died, and you can be sure as hell the younger generation would be calling it "Dad Rock" and thinking it sucked because it doesn't sound like AFI. So the fact that anyone is calling THIS "Dad Rock" is entirely generational. In and of itself, it's just music.

I don't know where you're getting that era or time has anything to do with what makes something MOR or mommy rock, but its nothing to with that.

This music is to Vs-Binaural what You Better You Bet is to 65-73 era Who.

Of course it's to do with time.

[stip]

that's possible.

There are certainly some readily identifiable classic rock influences in this. That's the music our parents listened to when they were young, and still listen to when they are old, and so we make that connection.

I think the elephant in the room here, though, is that MOR classic rock bands are what PJ listened to. It makes perfect sense that as they grow older, they will want to sound like their heroes of their youth. And for Mike, one of those hero-bands is KISS. For Ed, it's The Who. For me, all of my life, Pearl Jam will exist amongst my heroes. So if I still had a band (I don't) I would be playing early PJ-influenced stuff till I died, and you can be sure as hell the younger generation would be calling it "Dad Rock" and thinking it sucked because it doesn't sound like AFI. So the fact that anyone is calling THIS "Dad Rock" is entirely generational. In and of itself, it's just music.

I don't know where you're getting that era or time has anything to do with what makes something MOR or mommy rock, but its nothing to with that.

This music is to Vs-Binaural what You Better You Bet is to 65-73 era Who.

do you think these songs reflect a biological aging process that affects most musicians, or that these songs are being self-consciously crafted to bring in a new market of soccer moms, or that the tastes of pearl jam's fans are atrophying and that this is the band responding to that change?

[Chris_H_2]

God, I absolutely HATE Mind Your Manners, and I wanted to puke when I heard LB and Future Days at Wrigley.

But I must say that I'm pleasantly surprised with these songs.

[McParadigm]

that's possible.

There are certainly some readily identifiable classic rock influences in this. That's the music our parents listened to when they were young, and still listen to when they are old, and so we make that connection.

I think the elephant in the room here, though, is that MOR classic rock bands are what PJ listened to. It makes perfect sense that as they grow older, they will want to sound like their heroes of their youth. And for Mike, one of those hero-bands is KISS. For Ed, it's The Who. For me, all of my life, Pearl Jam will exist amongst my heroes. So if I still had a band (I don't) I would be playing early PJ-influenced stuff till I died, and you can be sure as hell the younger generation would be calling it "Dad Rock" and thinking it sucked because it doesn't sound like AFI. So the fact that anyone is calling THIS "Dad Rock" is entirely generational. In and of itself, it's just music.

I don't know where you're getting that era or time has anything to do with what makes something MOR or mommy rock, but its nothing to with that.

This music is to Vs-Binaural what You Better You Bet is to 65-73 era Who.

do you think these songs reflect a biological aging process that affects most musicians, or that these songs are being self-consciously crafted to bring in a new market of soccer moms, or that the tastes of pearl jam's fans are atrophying and that this is the band responding to that change?

I think most bands/artists experience this. I wrote about it before...their technical abilities peak, and at the same time their artistic drive sunsets or takes a breather.

Some people avoid it...most don't.

[E.H. Ruddock]

Just a reminder for this page, please don't ask for leaked material or link to leaked material on this board.

[Got Some]

guys. LTRP sounds *FUCKING NOTHING* like The Black Keys.

- Sincerely, a Black Keys fan since 2002

You can't say you don't see where the comparison is coming from though. Especially in the verses.

Interesting

[bada]

This music is to Vs-Binaural what You Better You Bet is to 65-73 era Who.

That's funny cause I had a similar thought during my first listen today. I dig latter PJ more than latter Who but I hear ya.

[harmless]

For anyone who's seen me creaming over these songs: you should not listen to me too much. There are people who think they suck, and I respect their opinion as well. All in all, I think that these songs avoid pretty much everything I was worried about so I'm maybe just riding on that high.

[McParadigm]

This music is to Vs-Binaural what You Better You Bet is to 65-73 era Who.

That's funny cause I had a similar thought during my first listen today. I dig latter PJ more than latter Who but I hear ya.

It's Hard is a pretty good record. Flawed, MOR-ish, and missing all the bite and danger of earlier Who...but kind of fun.

[Coach]

Love Getaway. That's a really strong tune. Such a different type of opener. A mid-tempo track that I know I'll love.

LTRP. A real nice groovy stevie ray vaughn type guitar tune. bet my friend who plays blues guitar and such will like this (even though he's not a big PJ fan).

Swallowed Whole. Man, that is another REM tune like "You Are," which one person said was the best song REM never wrote. So, I love this since REM is my second fav band. This tune is great. I can hear Peter Buck. Very nice.

LB. Better than Wrigley. Still struggling with the chorus, but this could get better. Man, the fade out sucks...this should have gone a few min longer

[bada]

This music is to Vs-Binaural what You Better You Bet is to 65-73 era Who.

That's funny cause I had a similar thought during my first listen today. I dig latter PJ more than latter Who but I hear ya.

It's Hard is a pretty good record. Flawed, MOR-ish, and missing all the bite and danger of earlier Who...but kind of fun.

Oh yeah latter Who had it's moments, just like 80's Queen. Still the drop off is huge...I don't think PJ's drop of is as steep....of course maybe they weren't as high up the mountain.

[McParadigm]

This music is to Vs-Binaural what You Better You Bet is to 65-73 era Who.

That's funny cause I had a similar thought during my first listen today. I dig latter PJ more than latter Who but I hear ya.

It's Hard is a pretty good record. Flawed, MOR-ish, and missing all the bite and danger of earlier Who...but kind of fun.

Oh yeah latter Who had it's moments, just like 80's Queen. Still the drop off is huge...I don't think PJ's drop of is as steep....of course maybe they weren't as high up the mountain.

I'll agree with both points.

[harmless]

Love Getaway. That's a really strong tune. Such a different type of opener. A mid-tempo track that I know I'll love.

LTRP. A real nice groovy stevie ray vaughn type guitar tune. bet my friend who plays blues guitar and such will like this (even though he's not a big PJ fan).

Swallowed Whole. Man, that is another REM tune like "You Are," which one person said was the best song REM never wrote. So, I love this since REM is my second fav band. This tune is great. I can hear Peter Buck. Very nice.

LB. Better than Wrigley. Still struggling with the chorus, but this could get better. Man, the fade out sucks...this should have gone a few min longer

Two pluses about the Lightning Bolt choruses: 1) the vocal is lower in the mix and the guitars thicker, 2) Ed sings in time with the rhythm, which helps a lot.

[LetMeSleep]

God, I absolutely HATE Mind Your Manners, and I wanted to puke when I heard LB and Future Days at Wrigley.
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I concur. And after 1 listen I am underwhelmed. I'll give it some more time before posting again.

[Dugg]

For anyone who's seen me creaming over these songs: you should not listen to me too much. There are people who think they suck, and I respect their opinion as well. All in all, I think that these songs avoid pretty much everything I was worried about so I'm maybe just riding on that high.

even though I went in wanting to like them I'm glad I didn't have to try to convince myself to like them (as I tried to do on the last record). Really hope they play Getaway in Pittsburgh.

[Hypnos]

Spoiler: show

[Coach]

Anyone arguing that PJ has gone soft and is producing adult contemporary music is crazy. Have you listened to the lyrics in Getaway? Man, I'm a religious guy, and this songs seems to crap all over religion. I like the song, but struggling with the content. That's not for the masses...

[McParadigm]

Anyone arguing that PJ has gone soft and is producing adult contemporary music is crazy. Have you listened to the lyrics in Getaway? Man, I'm a religious guy, and this songs seems to crap all over religion. I like the song, but struggling with the content. That's not for the masses...

This is the Ed of the innocence

[Coach]

Anyone arguing that PJ has gone soft and is producing adult contemporary music is crazy. Have you listened to the lyrics in Getaway? Man, I'm a religious guy, and this songs seems to crap all over religion. I like the song, but struggling with the content. That's not for the masses...

This is the Ed of the innocence

Yeah, but there's more venom here.

[stip]

Anyone arguing that PJ has gone soft and is producing adult contemporary music is crazy. Have you listened to the lyrics in Getaway? Man, I'm a religious guy, and this songs seems to crap all over religion. I like the song, but struggling with the content. That's not for the masses...

This is the Ed of the innocence

this was a good post