Lightning Bolt: the official album thread

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Rank Lightning Bolt

5 stars
1
1%
4 stars
4
5%
3 stars
29
37%
2 stars
30
38%
1 star
14
18%
 
Total votes: 78

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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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lecherouslittlestump wrote:
stip wrote:is there any discussion of this on the main board?
I haven't seen anything. They might be deleting stuff.

I love that sound in Lightning Bolt that kind of runs under the verses...not sure if it's a guitar or keys or what. Do you guys know what I'm talking about? Fuck I ain't making sense.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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I stopped reading the front page review after this was referred to as a 'logical extension of Backspacer' When are people going to stop with that? Did someone read it in a magazine and just run with it for the last 4 years? It needs to go away.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Sgt. Crackpot wrote:Hey harmless, any chance you could say a little about the drums on these tracks? I'd be interested to know if they're any good. (Unless you already have and it's somewhere back in the last heap of pages, could you lead me to an approx page number). Cheers. :wave:
OK, but with the caveat that I'm kind of drunk.

Basically there is nothing that I'm unhappy with. Getaway finds some groove that they've been missing since Riot Act (except for in 'Unemployable' and 'Johnny Guitar'). But I prefer this to both songs, possibly. I like the drum tones, and there's more cymbals where there should be.

Lightning Bolt is the same song, but it's really enhanced (I think) by the extra percussion layered on top. Tambourine and shakers, as well as overdubbed toms, enhance the whole thing.

On LTRP, Matt basically just drums to the track, rather than leading it. Same as MYM, really. But still, really not a bad performance. The push on 'Let the records play' is nice, matched by the guitar and bass.

Swallowed Whole's drumming is not spectacular but again, there's nothing inappropriate and nothing that should be played heavier than it is. The song is more summery Counting Crows, so not drum-heavy.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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I suggest four beers (two if American, teehee), and spin these tunes. They were all enjoyable but have moved into red hot zone for me. Hearing lots of pieces that are enjoyable here and none of these were the songs I was looking forward to!
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verb_to_trust wrote:I stopped reading the front page review after this was referred to as a 'logical extension of Backspacer' When are people going to stop with that? Did someone read it in a magazine and just run with it for the last 4 years? It needs to go away.


i should have gone with 'from the ashes of Backspacer'
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Yup, Lightning Bolt still kicks ass.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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harmless wrote:
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:Hey harmless, any chance you could say a little about the drums on these tracks? I'd be interested to know if they're any good. (Unless you already have and it's somewhere back in the last heap of pages, could you lead me to an approx page number). Cheers. :wave:
OK, but with the caveat that I'm kind of drunk.

Basically there is nothing that I'm unhappy with. Getaway finds some groove that they've been missing since Riot Act (except for in 'Unemployable' and 'Johnny Guitar'). But I prefer this to both songs, possibly. I like the drum tones, and there's more cymbals where there should be.

Lightning Bolt is the same song, but it's really enhanced (I think) by the extra percussion layered on top. Tambourine and shakers, as well as overdubbed toms, enhance the whole thing.

On LTRP, Matt basically just drums to the track, rather than leading it. Same as MYM, really. But still, really not a bad performance. The push on 'Let the records play' is nice, matched by the guitar and bass.

Swallowed Whole's drumming is not spectacular but again, there's nothing inappropriate and nothing that should be played heavier than it is. The song is more summery Counting Crows, so not drum-heavy.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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The stuttered "d-d-d-drown" on Swallowed Whole (around 1:20) bugs me.
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verb_to_trust wrote:I stopped reading the front page review after this was referred to as a 'logical extension of Backspacer' When are people going to stop with that? Did someone read it in a magazine and just run with it for the last 4 years? It needs to go away.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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But is that a straight-up growl at 3:06, or is that part growl and part guitar?

If that's almost all growl, then fuck yeah.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Jaeti wrote:The stuttered "d-d-d-drown" on Swallowed Whole (around 1:20) bugs me.
Has to be ed getting his 'my generation' on yeah? It made me laugh in an 'of course' kind of way.

Either that or hes drowning in freezing water.

I can't find those lyrics again, but is the general vibe of the lyrics 'dying might be awesome, but might aswell enjoy the earth while you're on it?' cause thats what i'm getting. And thats a little dark.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Buggy wrote:
Juvenal wrote:
Buggy wrote:Really really loving Getaway. BAM
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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The 'i could be the' parts sound like a song of a kids show or something. Until the drowning.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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stupidmop wrote:
Jaeti wrote:The stuttered "d-d-d-drown" on Swallowed Whole (around 1:20) bugs me.
Has to be ed getting his 'my generation' on yeah? It made me laugh in an 'of course' kind of way.

Either that or hes drowning in freezing water.

I can't find those lyrics again, but is the general vibe of the lyrics 'dying might be awesome, but might aswell enjoy the earth while you're on it?' cause thats what i'm getting. And thats a little dark.
I think you're picking up what he's puttin' down.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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After about 4 listens, here's my list...

1. Lightning Bolt
2. Let the Records Play
3. Swallowed Whole
4. Getaway

I think they are all great, though.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Jaeti wrote:But is that a straight-up growl at 3:06, or is that part growl and part guitar?

If that's almost all growl, then fuck yeah.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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stip wrote:
lecherouslittlestump wrote:
stip wrote:is there any discussion of this on the main board?
I haven't seen anything. They might be deleting stuff.

I love that sound in Lightning Bolt that kind of runs under the verses...not sure if it's a guitar or keys or what. Do you guys know what I'm talking about? Fuck I ain't making sense.
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First verse: Guitar with a shit ton of effects on it.

Second Verse: Piano
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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First impression: Wayyyyyy better than Backspacer. It sounds like the "cooler" Backspacer.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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So, for what's it worth, here's my wine and rum induced first ramblings:

Now this is odd, creepy even, but as I typed that last sentence Dustin Hoffman in Papillon (on BBC 2 atm) just sounded Getaway! I really enjoyed this one. It chugged along rhythmically and kept me shaking my gluteus maximus. Nice start.
LB - well I've never listened to the chewing gum version and have to say - first verse aside - I very much liked it. It's like a backspacer tune with more meat to its bones. I could make sweet love to it and not worry about dislocated hips.
LTRP - oh dear. It's too corny to me. JG was corny too but it swaggered. Hmm might need a few more listens.
SW - pleasantly surprised. It has its BS roots but it maketh me boppeth alongeth.

So apologies if that was bollocks but thank you to those who made it happen. My Skype is hotbelfastmeat in payment for services rendered :)
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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LikeLukin wrote:First impression: Wayyyyyy better than Backspacer. It sounds like the "cooler" Backspacer.
would you say that it is a logical extension of Backspacer?
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