Your favorites Vs The Best

[Tj]

The Ultimate Album thread has me thinking about how my favorite songs by Pearl Jam of all time stack against what the critic in me thinks are the best the band has done .

My favorite ten

Black
Corduroy
GTF
Unthought Known
RVM
Alive
DTE
Off He Goes
NAIS
YLB

The Best

Black
Corduroy
Man of The Hour
Insignificance
Tremor Christ
Sleight Of Hand
Alive
Small Town
RVM
In My Tree

[Bammer]

How long til 7:00 cracks either one of these lists?

[wease]

My favorites ARE the best ones.

[Tj]

My favorites ARE the best ones.

Are they the best to you because they are your favorites. Do you really believe the songs you happen to connect with are their best?
Insignificance I find maybe to be the pinnacle of Pearl Jam as a studio band, and while I like the song it isnt in my top 30.
Off He Goes is a C+ song at best, but it moves me and I connect with it. As well as Pilate. I dont think either of these songs is in their 50 best.

[Jorge]

There is no meaningful distinction between "favorite" and "best". There is no good way to objectively determine "best".

[Tj]

There is no meaningful distinction between "favorite" and "best". There is no good way to objectively determine "best".

I don't understand this. Example I cant stand WWS , but i will concede it is a great song. Meaning if Stip said it was a all timer for him. I understand what he hears.

[epilogue]

There is no meaningful distinction between "favorite" and "best". There is no good way to objectively determine "best".

[Rob]

There is no meaningful distinction between "favorite" and "best". There is no good way to objectively determine "best".

I don't understand this. Example I cant stand WWS , but i will concede it is a great song. Meaning if Stip said it was a all timer for him. I understand what he hears.

Wouldn't that just mean it's one of stip's favorites and you get why someone would like it?

[Tj]

There is no meaningful distinction between "favorite" and "best". There is no good way to objectively determine "best".

I don't understand this. Example I cant stand WWS , but i will concede it is a great song. Meaning if Stip said it was a all timer for him. I understand what he hears.

Wouldn't that just mean it's one of stip's favorites and you get why someone would like it?

I guess the only way to put it is how would a reviewer for say Spin give a positive review for a album if they don't enjoy it. Maybe I am odd on that I can disconnect from my own likes to greatness in art even if I don't like it, and know that something I really dig might actually be awful. I thought it was a common train of thought. If it isn't that cool as well.
Pearl Jam is my favorite band of all time, but they are not one of the best 50 of all time to my ears.

[Kevin Davis]

I'm not sure how to engage in this comparison but I'm fairly certain the answer lies in some sort of voting exercise that involves songs that have the same track number competing against each other. Can someone organize one of these?

[stip]

I get that distinction - there are songs where I recognize that both the craft and the general reception of the song may speak to a core that moves beyond whether or not I enjoy it, and vice versa

[Thurman Murman]

There is no meaningful distinction between "favorite" and "best". There is no good way to objectively determine "best".

Do you feel the same way about movies?

[Jorge]

There is no meaningful distinction between "favorite" and "best". There is no good way to objectively determine "best".

Do you feel the same way about movies?

Yes

[epilogue]

I get that distinction - there are songs where I recognize that both the craft and the general reception of the song may speak to a core that moves beyond whether or not I enjoy it, and vice versa

So best means... craft?

[Jorge]

I get that distinction - there are songs where I recognize that both the craft and the general reception of the song may speak to a core that moves beyond whether or not I enjoy it, and vice versa

So best means... craft?

Or more offensively, "RECEPTION"

Ugh

[Juvenal]

I like this way of thinking.

Eg - Even Flow, the first Pearl Jam song I ever heard (and downloaded off Napster - Christ I'm a fossil) will forever be my favourite due to the emotional response it generated in my spotty teenage self. But do I view it as the "best"? Fuck no.

[RockPusher]

There is no meaningful distinction between "favorite" and "best". There is no good way to objectively determine "best".

[PHATJ]

There is no meaningful distinction between "favorite" and "best". There is no good way to objectively determine "best".

Do you feel the same way about movies?

Yes

No nuance zone

[Farmer John]

Leatherman is one of my favourites, but is it one of their best songs? No.

[Tj]

Leatherman is one of my favourites, but is it one of their best songs? No.

That is what I am talking about.