Your favorites Vs The Best

[Jaeti]

And also, judging craftsmanship is in itself a subjective value judgment

Right, but I think it's possible for this to be a different subjective value judgment than judging what you personally enjoy the most, and I think the underlying premise of the thread was for people to make those two separate but equally subjective value judgments, and compare the lists. Not subjectivity vs. objectivity, but subjectivity through one lens vs. subjectivity through another. Maybe TJ can clarify whether this is what he meant.

Yeah, I read it this way from the start.

[Tj]

And also, judging craftsmanship is in itself a subjective value judgment

Right, but I think it's possible for this to be a different subjective value judgment than judging what you personally enjoy the most, and I think the underlying premise of the thread was for people to make those two separate but equally subjective value judgments, and compare the lists. Not subjectivity vs. objectivity, but subjectivity through one lens vs. subjectivity through another. Maybe TJ can clarify whether this is what he meant.

Yeah, I read it this way from the start.

Yes this is exactly it.

[Anders]

At the end these are all just Pearl Jam songs. If you like one, it’s the best one, for the reasons that make you like it.

[stip]

I really like Future Days for a number of personal reasons. I think it's a competent song, but it punches above its weight class for me. I would never call it one of their best

[Tj]

I really like Future Days for a number of personal reasons. I think it's a competent song, but it punches above its weight class for me. I would never call it one of their best

Time and place stamps for songs are very important. That song always takes me back to very bad medical diagnosis and some time after that news had sprouted driving home from somewhere with my wife asleep in the passenger seat, and my young son drifting off in the back. I was left alone with my thoughts. Then this song comes on and it is telling me it will be okay.

[Monkey_Driven]

I really like Future Days for a number of personal reasons. I think it's a competent song, but it punches above its weight class for me. I would never call it one of their best

Time and place stamps for songs are very important. That song always takes me back to very bad medical diagnosis and some time after that news had sprouted driving home from somewhere with my wife asleep in the passenger seat, and my young son drifting off in the back. I was left alone with my thoughts. Then this song comes on and it is telling me it will be okay.

Beautiful.

[Farmer John]

I just wanted to announce that I've consolidated my "Favourite" and "Best" lists, and I now officially consider Leatherman one of the Best Pearl Jam Songs.

[epilogue]

I just wanted to announce that I've consolidated my "Favourite" and "Best" lists, and I now officially consider Leatherman one of the Best Pearl Jam Songs.

Then it was all worth it

[Farmer John]

Lock 'er up!

[stip]

I really like Future Days for a number of personal reasons. I think it's a competent song, but it punches above its weight class for me. I would never call it one of their best

Time and place stamps for songs are very important. That song always takes me back to very bad medical diagnosis and some time after that news had sprouted driving home from somewhere with my wife asleep in the passenger seat, and my young son drifting off in the back. I was left alone with my thoughts. Then this song comes on and it is telling me it will be okay.

Beautiful.

Yeah that must have been very powerful

[Thurman Murman]

I really like Future Days for a number of personal reasons. I think it's a competent song, but it punches above its weight class for me. I would never call it one of their best

Time and place stamps for songs are very important. That song always takes me back to very bad medical diagnosis and some time after that news had sprouted driving home from somewhere with my wife asleep in the passenger seat, and my young son drifting off in the back. I was left alone with my thoughts. Then this song comes on and it is telling me it will be okay.

Yes!!! Backspacer came out shortly after my first child was born and my dad was battling cancer. The End literally brought me to tears.

To this day the song still elicits a strong emotional response in me, even though my son is now an 11 year old pain in the ass and my dad is still ticking and healthier than ever!

[samiad]

THE best Pearl Jam song - ie, best writing, of cultural significance, best example of "peak" Pearl Jam is CORDUROY. It's the song I'd play to someone to get them into PJ, with GIVEN TO FLY as a backup...

But my favourite song is HARD TO IMAGINE.

You couldn't have two more different PJ songs.

[stip]

well you could have picked bugs

[Juvenal]

well you could have picked bugs

Writer's Block is the best ever. I'll brook no argument.

[Rob]

Time and place stamps for songs are very important.

I love Gigaton as much as anyone, but it absolutely benefited from this. A grown up album, for a grown up base, in an uncertain time.

[guitar_davey]

Hot take...

Favourites:

Alive
Why Go
Animal
Rats
Last Exit
Not For You
Hail Hail
In My Tree
Off He Goes
I Got Shit
Brain of J
In Hiding
All Those Yesterdays
Grievance
Sleight of Hand
Can't Keep
Save You
All Night
Black, Red, Yellow
Man of the Hour
WWS
Amongst the Waves
Mind Your Manners
Lightning Bolt
Who Ever Said
Comes Then Goes

Best:

Even Flow
Alive
Black
Animal
Daughter
Corduroy
Better Man
Immortality
In My Tree
Present Tense
Given to Fly
Do the Evolution
In Hiding
Nothing as it Seems
Love Boat Captain
I Am Mine
Man of the Hour
Severed Hand
Unemployable
Dance of the Clairvoyants
Quick Escape
Seven O'Clock

[PHATJ]

Hot take...

Favourites:

Alive
Why Go
Animal
Rats
Last Exit
Not For You
Hail Hail
In My Tree
Off He Goes
I Got Shit
Brain of J
In Hiding
All Those Yesterdays
Grievance
Sleight of Hand
Can't Keep
Save You
All Night
Black, Red, Yellow
Man of the Hour
WWS
Amongst the Waves
Mind Your Manners
Lightning Bolt
Who Ever Said
Comes Then Goes

Best:

Even Flow
Alive
Black
Animal
Daughter
Corduroy
Better Man
Immortality
In My Tree
Present Tense
Given to Fly
Do the Evolution
In Hiding
Nothing as it Seems
Love Boat Captain
I Am Mine
Man of the Hour
Severed Hand
Unemployable
Dance of the Clairvoyants
Quick Escape
Seven O'Clock

I’d have a bit of a different set of songs, but completely agree on the premise.

[Ms Harmless]

There is no meaningful distinction between "favorite" and "best". There is no good way to objectively determine "best".

[stip]

There is no meaningful distinction between "favorite" and "best". There is no good way to objectively determine "best".

that distinction doesn't require an objective referent, though

[Strat]

just another way for RMer's to get to rank things. You people are SICK!