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The Argonaut wrote:Your first sentence is spot-on, but the conclusion from that realization shouldn't be "I hate being white." If you saw a legless person laying on the ground, would you say "I hate that I have legs"? Would you cut your legs off? If you realize that you have benefited from privilege, find a way to use that privilege to fix things. Feeling bad for having privilege is meaningless. No one wants that from youOrpheus wrote:White people realizing they're a product of a nation built on white supremacy and that they have benefited (and continue to benefit) from that in ways both large and small can only be a good thing. This is what a lot of people mean when they say things like "I hate being white." Maybe its not exactly the right sentiment, but it's pretty fucking close.
It is a good point that feeling sorry about it doesn't help. When I have a bad day and tell my wife about it and she says "I'm sorry" , that doesn't change the situation im in.
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tl;dr?verb_to_trust wrote:PHATJ wrote:Lol, so who do you extend that benefit of the doubt to and why? And does your assumption of her intent excuse blatantly racist speech?verb_to_trust wrote:You know that is not what is in her heartPHATJ wrote:verb_to_trust wrote:PHATJ wrote:If this was said by anyone you didn’t walk hand in hand with politically, you would ABSOLUTELY rage at the obvious racism in what she said.verb_to_trust wrote:I will speak for kt by saying that no way would she ever HOPE for a cop to beat on a black man. The feeling that she's trying to communicate is pretty obvious to anyone without a smooth brain. And it's not racism.PHATJ wrote:That gives her the right to hope black men get attacked by cops to suite her white shame needs. Makes a lot of sense, coming from a racist. I just wasn’t sure you were one yet. Obviously you are at least sympathetic to the racism.verb_to_trust wrote:White people should hate themselves broPHATJ wrote:She’s literally said multiple times that she hopes black men get attacked by cops so that she can be a hero. All because she hates herself. That’s some actual, real, racist bullshit.
I can’t even image if Trump had said anything like it. You would want to literally kill him. As you already do.
You want a banning of me, and probably macphisto, and a few others if they said the exact same words she did.
HYPOCRISY. The last few pages are completely filled you leftist hypocrites. And anyone that open reads through it can see that.
I don't even know what knee tunes is saying half the time let alone what her exact politics are.
I've also never advocated for anyone to be banned. Not even when I got doxxed by the clique.![]()
What she said was clearly racist. Even if she “meant well”, her words and desire to have the opportunity to be a hero at the expense of a black man, is pretty much racist as fuck.
Uhh, what?
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Is this...Rand Paul?PHATJ wrote:Your words were racist. We can’t excuse racism.knee tunes wrote:You're right, Phatj , I will instead pretend the world will never again have a scenario in which a white person oppresses or nearly or fully kills a black person for no good reason besides race.
Does that somehow not make me racist now ?
Or does your imagination still say I am?
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A lot of white people have not initiated that conversation with themselves though.The Argonaut wrote:Your first sentence is spot-on, but the conclusion from that realization shouldn't be "I hate being white." If you saw a legless person laying on the ground, would you say "I hate that I have legs"? Would you cut your legs off? If you realize that you have benefited from privilege, find a way to use that privilege to fix things. Feeling bad for having privilege is meaningless. No one wants that from youOrpheus wrote:White people realizing they're a product of a nation built on white supremacy and that they have benefited (and continue to benefit) from that in ways both large and small can only be a good thing. This is what a lot of people mean when they say things like "I hate being white." Maybe its not exactly the right sentiment, but it's pretty fucking close.
And you don't really need to tell me to "do something," I've been doing anti-racist programs in schools for years.
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verb_to_trust wrote:Is this...Rand Paul?PHATJ wrote:Your words were racist. We can’t excuse racism.knee tunes wrote:You're right, Phatj , I will instead pretend the world will never again have a scenario in which a white person oppresses or nearly or fully kills a black person for no good reason besides race.
Does that somehow not make me racist now ?
Or does your imagination still say I am?
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Not you, specifically. The royal you.Orpheus wrote:A lot of white people have not initiated that conversation with themselves though.The Argonaut wrote:Your first sentence is spot-on, but the conclusion from that realization shouldn't be "I hate being white." If you saw a legless person laying on the ground, would you say "I hate that I have legs"? Would you cut your legs off? If you realize that you have benefited from privilege, find a way to use that privilege to fix things. Feeling bad for having privilege is meaningless. No one wants that from youOrpheus wrote:White people realizing they're a product of a nation built on white supremacy and that they have benefited (and continue to benefit) from that in ways both large and small can only be a good thing. This is what a lot of people mean when they say things like "I hate being white." Maybe its not exactly the right sentiment, but it's pretty fucking close.
And you don't really need to tell me to "do something," I've been doing anti-racist programs in schools for years.
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Has that helped ease the pain of your white guilt?Orpheus wrote:A lot of white people have not initiated that conversation with themselves though.The Argonaut wrote:Your first sentence is spot-on, but the conclusion from that realization shouldn't be "I hate being white." If you saw a legless person laying on the ground, would you say "I hate that I have legs"? Would you cut your legs off? If you realize that you have benefited from privilege, find a way to use that privilege to fix things. Feeling bad for having privilege is meaningless. No one wants that from youOrpheus wrote:White people realizing they're a product of a nation built on white supremacy and that they have benefited (and continue to benefit) from that in ways both large and small can only be a good thing. This is what a lot of people mean when they say things like "I hate being white." Maybe its not exactly the right sentiment, but it's pretty fucking close.
And you don't really need to tell me to "do something," I've been doing anti-racist programs in schools for years.
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I don't think you're getting what I'm saying. In that story, your wife is acknowledging your pain and offering you some degree of emotional support. That's nice. In the metaphor, her equivalent response to you saying that you had a bad day would be her saying "I hate that I had a good day." It makes it about her and it does nothing for you.verb_to_trust wrote:It is a good point that feeling sorry about it doesn't help. When I have a bad day and tell my wife about it and she says "I'm sorry" , that doesn't change the situation im in.The Argonaut wrote:Your first sentence is spot-on, but the conclusion from that realization shouldn't be "I hate being white." If you saw a legless person laying on the ground, would you say "I hate that I have legs"? Would you cut your legs off? If you realize that you have benefited from privilege, find a way to use that privilege to fix things. Feeling bad for having privilege is meaningless. No one wants that from youOrpheus wrote:White people realizing they're a product of a nation built on white supremacy and that they have benefited (and continue to benefit) from that in ways both large and small can only be a good thing. This is what a lot of people mean when they say things like "I hate being white." Maybe its not exactly the right sentiment, but it's pretty fucking close.
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Argo is on fire.The Argonaut wrote:I don't think you're getting what I'm saying. In that story, your wife is acknowledging your pain and offering you some degree of emotional support. That's nice. In the metaphor, her equivalent response to you saying that you had a bad day would be her saying "I hate that I had a good day." It makes it about her and it does nothing for you.verb_to_trust wrote:It is a good point that feeling sorry about it doesn't help. When I have a bad day and tell my wife about it and she says "I'm sorry" , that doesn't change the situation im in.The Argonaut wrote:Your first sentence is spot-on, but the conclusion from that realization shouldn't be "I hate being white." If you saw a legless person laying on the ground, would you say "I hate that I have legs"? Would you cut your legs off? If you realize that you have benefited from privilege, find a way to use that privilege to fix things. Feeling bad for having privilege is meaningless. No one wants that from youOrpheus wrote:White people realizing they're a product of a nation built on white supremacy and that they have benefited (and continue to benefit) from that in ways both large and small can only be a good thing. This is what a lot of people mean when they say things like "I hate being white." Maybe its not exactly the right sentiment, but it's pretty fucking close.
Sorry Argo, verb can’t be expected to think outside of himself.
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Teachers say our programs have a noticeable effect on their classrooms and the empathy their students have for each other, which is what i care about. But thanks for your weird question, I guess.PHATJ wrote:Has that helped ease the pain of your white guilt?Orpheus wrote:A lot of white people have not initiated that conversation with themselves though.The Argonaut wrote:Your first sentence is spot-on, but the conclusion from that realization shouldn't be "I hate being white." If you saw a legless person laying on the ground, would you say "I hate that I have legs"? Would you cut your legs off? If you realize that you have benefited from privilege, find a way to use that privilege to fix things. Feeling bad for having privilege is meaningless. No one wants that from youOrpheus wrote:White people realizing they're a product of a nation built on white supremacy and that they have benefited (and continue to benefit) from that in ways both large and small can only be a good thing. This is what a lot of people mean when they say things like "I hate being white." Maybe its not exactly the right sentiment, but it's pretty fucking close.
And you don't really need to tell me to "do something," I've been doing anti-racist programs in schools for years.
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I would take both responses the same way. Personally, I find it annoying when I'm venting and someone just says "I'm sorry". Get mad with me, talk it out with me, don't offer the conciliatory "I'm sorry".The Argonaut wrote:I don't think you're getting what I'm saying. In that story, your wife is acknowledging your pain and offering you some degree of emotional support. That's nice. In the metaphor, her equivalent response to you saying that you had a bad day would be her saying "I hate that I had a good day." It makes it about her and it does nothing for you.verb_to_trust wrote:It is a good point that feeling sorry about it doesn't help. When I have a bad day and tell my wife about it and she says "I'm sorry" , that doesn't change the situation im in.The Argonaut wrote:Your first sentence is spot-on, but the conclusion from that realization shouldn't be "I hate being white." If you saw a legless person laying on the ground, would you say "I hate that I have legs"? Would you cut your legs off? If you realize that you have benefited from privilege, find a way to use that privilege to fix things. Feeling bad for having privilege is meaningless. No one wants that from youOrpheus wrote:White people realizing they're a product of a nation built on white supremacy and that they have benefited (and continue to benefit) from that in ways both large and small can only be a good thing. This is what a lot of people mean when they say things like "I hate being white." Maybe its not exactly the right sentiment, but it's pretty fucking close.
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That’s great. Well done.Orpheus wrote:Teachers say our programs have a noticeable effect on their classrooms and the empathy their students have fir each other, which i what i care about. But thanks for your weird question, I guess.PHATJ wrote:Has that helped ease the pain of your white guilt?Orpheus wrote:A lot of white people have not initiated that conversation with themselves though.The Argonaut wrote:Your first sentence is spot-on, but the conclusion from that realization shouldn't be "I hate being white." If you saw a legless person laying on the ground, would you say "I hate that I have legs"? Would you cut your legs off? If you realize that you have benefited from privilege, find a way to use that privilege to fix things. Feeling bad for having privilege is meaningless. No one wants that from youOrpheus wrote:White people realizing they're a product of a nation built on white supremacy and that they have benefited (and continue to benefit) from that in ways both large and small can only be a good thing. This is what a lot of people mean when they say things like "I hate being white." Maybe its not exactly the right sentiment, but it's pretty fucking close.
And you don't really need to tell me to "do something," I've been doing anti-racist programs in schools for years.
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I just want to clear up this quote from kt. Sure it's a bit clumsy but there's no intent there. In no way is she saying she hopes someone is attacked so she can be a hero. She's saying that if she saw some injustice being carried out she would insert herself into the situation to help the one being unfairly treated.I hope that someday I am given the chance to be the person who pulls the killing cop off the black dude.
Phat, you know this and were taking a cheap shot.
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You just made it about you again.verb_to_trust wrote:I would take both responses the same way. Personally, I find it annoying when I'm venting and someone just says "I'm sorry". Get mad with me, talk it out with me, don't offer the conciliatory "I'm sorry".The Argonaut wrote:I don't think you're getting what I'm saying. In that story, your wife is acknowledging your pain and offering you some degree of emotional support. That's nice. In the metaphor, her equivalent response to you saying that you had a bad day would be her saying "I hate that I had a good day." It makes it about her and it does nothing for you.verb_to_trust wrote:It is a good point that feeling sorry about it doesn't help. When I have a bad day and tell my wife about it and she says "I'm sorry" , that doesn't change the situation im in.The Argonaut wrote:Your first sentence is spot-on, but the conclusion from that realization shouldn't be "I hate being white." If you saw a legless person laying on the ground, would you say "I hate that I have legs"? Would you cut your legs off? If you realize that you have benefited from privilege, find a way to use that privilege to fix things. Feeling bad for having privilege is meaningless. No one wants that from youOrpheus wrote:White people realizing they're a product of a nation built on white supremacy and that they have benefited (and continue to benefit) from that in ways both large and small can only be a good thing. This is what a lot of people mean when they say things like "I hate being white." Maybe its not exactly the right sentiment, but it's pretty fucking close.
Like I said, Argo.
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PHATJ wrote:You just made it about you again.verb_to_trust wrote:I would take both responses the same way. Personally, I find it annoying when I'm venting and someone just says "I'm sorry". Get mad with me, talk it out with me, don't offer the conciliatory "I'm sorry".The Argonaut wrote:I don't think you're getting what I'm saying. In that story, your wife is acknowledging your pain and offering you some degree of emotional support. That's nice. In the metaphor, her equivalent response to you saying that you had a bad day would be her saying "I hate that I had a good day." It makes it about her and it does nothing for you.verb_to_trust wrote:It is a good point that feeling sorry about it doesn't help. When I have a bad day and tell my wife about it and she says "I'm sorry" , that doesn't change the situation im in.The Argonaut wrote:Your first sentence is spot-on, but the conclusion from that realization shouldn't be "I hate being white." If you saw a legless person laying on the ground, would you say "I hate that I have legs"? Would you cut your legs off? If you realize that you have benefited from privilege, find a way to use that privilege to fix things. Feeling bad for having privilege is meaningless. No one wants that from youOrpheus wrote:White people realizing they're a product of a nation built on white supremacy and that they have benefited (and continue to benefit) from that in ways both large and small can only be a good thing. This is what a lot of people mean when they say things like "I hate being white." Maybe its not exactly the right sentiment, but it's pretty fucking close.
Like I said, Argo.
I mean, it was about me sort of.
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Yeah, in this metaphor, verb is the person we care about. duhverb_to_trust wrote:I mean, it was about me sort of.PHATJ wrote:You just made it about you again.verb_to_trust wrote:I would take both responses the same way. Personally, I find it annoying when I'm venting and someone just says "I'm sorry". Get mad with me, talk it out with me, don't offer the conciliatory "I'm sorry".The Argonaut wrote:I don't think you're getting what I'm saying. In that story, your wife is acknowledging your pain and offering you some degree of emotional support. That's nice. In the metaphor, her equivalent response to you saying that you had a bad day would be her saying "I hate that I had a good day." It makes it about her and it does nothing for you.verb_to_trust wrote:It is a good point that feeling sorry about it doesn't help. When I have a bad day and tell my wife about it and she says "I'm sorry" , that doesn't change the situation im in.The Argonaut wrote:Your first sentence is spot-on, but the conclusion from that realization shouldn't be "I hate being white." If you saw a legless person laying on the ground, would you say "I hate that I have legs"? Would you cut your legs off? If you realize that you have benefited from privilege, find a way to use that privilege to fix things. Feeling bad for having privilege is meaningless. No one wants that from youOrpheus wrote:White people realizing they're a product of a nation built on white supremacy and that they have benefited (and continue to benefit) from that in ways both large and small can only be a good thing. This is what a lot of people mean when they say things like "I hate being white." Maybe its not exactly the right sentiment, but it's pretty fucking close.
Like I said, Argo.
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Phat?LetMeSleep wrote:I just want to clear up this quote from kt. Sure it's a bit clumsy but there's no intent there. In no way is she saying she hopes someone is attacked so she can be a hero. She's saying that if she saw some injustice being carried out she would insert herself into the situation to help the one being unfairly treated.I hope that someday I am given the chance to be the person who pulls the killing cop off the black dude.
Phat, you know this and were taking a cheap shot.
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I know that, and I’m making an obvious point that you guys are again conveniently ignoring.LetMeSleep wrote:I just want to clear up this quote from kt. Sure it's a bit clumsy but there's no intent there. In no way is she saying she hopes someone is attacked so she can be a hero. She's saying that if she saw some injustice being carried out she would insert herself into the situation to help the one being unfairly treated.I hope that someday I am given the chance to be the person who pulls the killing cop off the black dude.
Phat, you know this and were taking a cheap shot.
That exact kind of baseless, word twisting, language interpreting, psychout bullshit that the left pull CONSTANTLY. It’s asinine. That’s the damn point. Except when you like who the target is pointed at. Then you are noble and righteous in your cries of racism!
Start owning the fact the the left is at least as hypocritical when it come to things like race, homophobia, sexism, etc. And you are willing to do so here as well, if you like the person or interpret their intent a certain way. Then maybe I’ll stop pointing out page after page of hypocritical bullshit that is said by you guys in here.
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Please. You inflamed a situation with your sideways bullshit.
Slow down. You have some points, some valid points but the rapid fire agro bullshit dilutes them.
Slow down. You have some points, some valid points but the rapid fire agro bullshit dilutes them.