digster wrote:Again, this is where you always seem to get slipped up, PHATJ. The protestors are undoubtedly predominantely on the left side of the dial, but they're able to see past their partisanship in a way that you can't seem to do with yours. Their problem is with Donald Trump and Andrew Cuomo. They don't care as much about the letter after the name as you do. If they did, they'd be taking it easy on the avowed liberal running NYC. It's silly to say their ideology is in the center, but they're not shackled to partisanship in the way that you are.
I’m hardly shackled. I don’t always vote “R”. I’ve voted “I” several times. I actually strongly argued AGAINST Trump before his election. There were several candidates I preferred. This isn’t about political dogma in every respect for me. It’s about truth, reality, and moving forward in the best way possible.
Than I don't really know what your issue would be with protestors. If you're truly independent and not wanting it to be about parties, I'd think you'd find a lot of common ground with the person who wants both Trump and de Blasio to pack their bags. That person at least has shown they're willing to call out their own.
I have zero issue with Trump not being President. I don’t love him at all. I like him a million times better than anybody the Dems have paraded around over the last year. And he’s infinitely better than Biden. But there are plenty of people I’d much rather have the job.
PHATJ wrote:
Mickey wrote:Which, you know, fits a larger pattern of equivocation, a la "I'm not a fan of Trump but he's better than those Democrats." Did you vote for him? Do you post about how he's being mistreated by the media? Sorry bud, but you're a fan, or at least, a supporter. Politics doesn't happen in some imaginary ideal realm.
I’m a supporter for sure. That doesn’t mean I condone or believe all his rhetoric. It means I think he’s better than anything the left has to offer, and there are no other viable choices.
So which is it? Sounds like you have at least one issue.
VinylGuy wrote:its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
Mickey wrote:Which, you know, fits a larger pattern of equivocation, a la "I'm not a fan of Trump but he's better than those Democrats." Did you vote for him? Do you post about how he's being mistreated by the media? Sorry bud, but you're a fan, or at least, a supporter. Politics doesn't happen in some imaginary ideal realm.
I’m a supporter for sure. That doesn’t mean I condone or believe all his rhetoric. It means I think he’s better than anything the left has to offer, and there are no other viable choices.
VinylGuy wrote:its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
Is my hatred of the left due to a personal grievance? Brother, is it ever!
VinylGuy wrote:its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
Imagine ascribing any positive qualities to a man like Donald Trump, let alone making the sweeping declaration that an entire political demographic cannot possibly rise above the sheer perfection that is Trump.
Also being pro-Israel is bad. Encouraging Bibi's settler state is probably one of the most ethically repugnant things Trump has done.
VinylGuy wrote:its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
digster wrote:Again, this is where you always seem to get slipped up, PHATJ. The protestors are undoubtedly predominantely on the left side of the dial, but they're able to see past their partisanship in a way that you can't seem to do with yours. Their problem is with Donald Trump and Andrew Cuomo. They don't care as much about the letter after the name as you do. If they did, they'd be taking it easy on the avowed liberal running NYC. It's silly to say their ideology is in the center, but they're not shackled to partisanship in the way that you are.
I’m hardly shackled. I don’t always vote “R”. I’ve voted “I” several times. I actually strongly argued AGAINST Trump before his election. There were several candidates I preferred. This isn’t about political dogma in every respect for me. It’s about truth, reality, and moving forward in the best way possible.
Than I don't really know what your issue would be with protestors. If you're truly independent and not wanting it to be about parties, I'd think you'd find a lot of common ground with the person who wants both Trump and de Blasio to pack their bags. That person at least has shown they're willing to call out their own.
I have zero issue with Trump not being President. I don’t love him at all. I like him a million times better than anybody the Dems have paraded around over the last year. And he’s infinitely better than Biden. But there are plenty of people I’d much rather have the job.
PHATJ wrote:
Mickey wrote:Which, you know, fits a larger pattern of equivocation, a la "I'm not a fan of Trump but he's better than those Democrats." Did you vote for him? Do you post about how he's being mistreated by the media? Sorry bud, but you're a fan, or at least, a supporter. Politics doesn't happen in some imaginary ideal realm.
I’m a supporter for sure. That doesn’t mean I condone or believe all his rhetoric. It means I think he’s better than anything the left has to offer, and there are no other viable choices.
So which is it? Sounds like you have at least one issue.
Id rather many other republicans be president than Trump. I’d rather Trump than any of the potential Dems. Is that easy enough for you to understand?
digster wrote:Again, this is where you always seem to get slipped up, PHATJ. The protestors are undoubtedly predominantely on the left side of the dial, but they're able to see past their partisanship in a way that you can't seem to do with yours. Their problem is with Donald Trump and Andrew Cuomo. They don't care as much about the letter after the name as you do. If they did, they'd be taking it easy on the avowed liberal running NYC. It's silly to say their ideology is in the center, but they're not shackled to partisanship in the way that you are.
I’m hardly shackled. I don’t always vote “R”. I’ve voted “I” several times. I actually strongly argued AGAINST Trump before his election. There were several candidates I preferred. This isn’t about political dogma in every respect for me. It’s about truth, reality, and moving forward in the best way possible.
Than I don't really know what your issue would be with protestors. If you're truly independent and not wanting it to be about parties, I'd think you'd find a lot of common ground with the person who wants both Trump and de Blasio to pack their bags. That person at least has shown they're willing to call out their own.
I have zero issue with Trump not being President. I don’t love him at all. I like him a million times better than anybody the Dems have paraded around over the last year. And he’s infinitely better than Biden. But there are plenty of people I’d much rather have the job.
PHATJ wrote:
Mickey wrote:Which, you know, fits a larger pattern of equivocation, a la "I'm not a fan of Trump but he's better than those Democrats." Did you vote for him? Do you post about how he's being mistreated by the media? Sorry bud, but you're a fan, or at least, a supporter. Politics doesn't happen in some imaginary ideal realm.
I’m a supporter for sure. That doesn’t mean I condone or believe all his rhetoric. It means I think he’s better than anything the left has to offer, and there are no other viable choices.
So which is it? Sounds like you have at least one issue.
Id rather many other republicans be president than Trump. I’d rather Trump than any of the potential Dems. Is that easy enough for you to understand?
So it IS political dogma, then. Since you’ll never vote democrat.
Let me tell you, Homer Simpson is cock of nothing!
- C. Montgomery Burns
verb_to_trust wrote:Imagine ascribing any positive qualities to a man like Donald Trump, let alone making the sweeping declaration that an entire political demographic cannot possibly rise above the sheer perfection that is Trump.
It’s that bad for the Dems. They’re truly awful. Imagine not seeing that even though it’s blatantly obvious.
digster wrote:Again, this is where you always seem to get slipped up, PHATJ. The protestors are undoubtedly predominantely on the left side of the dial, but they're able to see past their partisanship in a way that you can't seem to do with yours. Their problem is with Donald Trump and Andrew Cuomo. They don't care as much about the letter after the name as you do. If they did, they'd be taking it easy on the avowed liberal running NYC. It's silly to say their ideology is in the center, but they're not shackled to partisanship in the way that you are.
I’m hardly shackled. I don’t always vote “R”. I’ve voted “I” several times. I actually strongly argued AGAINST Trump before his election. There were several candidates I preferred. This isn’t about political dogma in every respect for me. It’s about truth, reality, and moving forward in the best way possible.
Than I don't really know what your issue would be with protestors. If you're truly independent and not wanting it to be about parties, I'd think you'd find a lot of common ground with the person who wants both Trump and de Blasio to pack their bags. That person at least has shown they're willing to call out their own.
I have zero issue with Trump not being President. I don’t love him at all. I like him a million times better than anybody the Dems have paraded around over the last year. And he’s infinitely better than Biden. But there are plenty of people I’d much rather have the job.
PHATJ wrote:
Mickey wrote:Which, you know, fits a larger pattern of equivocation, a la "I'm not a fan of Trump but he's better than those Democrats." Did you vote for him? Do you post about how he's being mistreated by the media? Sorry bud, but you're a fan, or at least, a supporter. Politics doesn't happen in some imaginary ideal realm.
I’m a supporter for sure. That doesn’t mean I condone or believe all his rhetoric. It means I think he’s better than anything the left has to offer, and there are no other viable choices.
So which is it? Sounds like you have at least one issue.
Id rather many other republicans be president than Trump. I’d rather Trump than any of the potential Dems. Is that easy enough for you to understand?
I think we're sad that you still love Trump enough to vote for him. Especially as you put it, you have been known to vote independent. If you hate the two party system, perhaps your vote could be utilized in a ....manner in which i approve
verb_to_trust wrote:Imagine ascribing any positive qualities to a man like Donald Trump, let alone making the sweeping declaration that an entire political demographic cannot possibly rise above the sheer perfection that is Trump.
It’s that bad for the Dems. They’re truly awful. Imagine not seeing that even though it’s blatantly obvious.
How'd you feel about the soaring economy throughout the entirety of Obamas occupancy of the house?
verb_to_trust wrote:Imagine ascribing any positive qualities to a man like Donald Trump, let alone making the sweeping declaration that an entire political demographic cannot possibly rise above the sheer perfection that is Trump.
It’s that bad for the Dems. They’re truly awful. Imagine not seeing that even though it’s blatantly obvious.
How'd you feel about the soaring economy throughout the entirety of Obamas occupancy of the house?
digster wrote:Again, this is where you always seem to get slipped up, PHATJ. The protestors are undoubtedly predominantely on the left side of the dial, but they're able to see past their partisanship in a way that you can't seem to do with yours. Their problem is with Donald Trump and Andrew Cuomo. They don't care as much about the letter after the name as you do. If they did, they'd be taking it easy on the avowed liberal running NYC. It's silly to say their ideology is in the center, but they're not shackled to partisanship in the way that you are.
I’m hardly shackled. I don’t always vote “R”. I’ve voted “I” several times. I actually strongly argued AGAINST Trump before his election. There were several candidates I preferred. This isn’t about political dogma in every respect for me. It’s about truth, reality, and moving forward in the best way possible.
Than I don't really know what your issue would be with protestors. If you're truly independent and not wanting it to be about parties, I'd think you'd find a lot of common ground with the person who wants both Trump and de Blasio to pack their bags. That person at least has shown they're willing to call out their own.
I have zero issue with Trump not being President. I don’t love him at all. I like him a million times better than anybody the Dems have paraded around over the last year. And he’s infinitely better than Biden. But there are plenty of people I’d much rather have the job.
PHATJ wrote:
Mickey wrote:Which, you know, fits a larger pattern of equivocation, a la "I'm not a fan of Trump but he's better than those Democrats." Did you vote for him? Do you post about how he's being mistreated by the media? Sorry bud, but you're a fan, or at least, a supporter. Politics doesn't happen in some imaginary ideal realm.
I’m a supporter for sure. That doesn’t mean I condone or believe all his rhetoric. It means I think he’s better than anything the left has to offer, and there are no other viable choices.
So which is it? Sounds like you have at least one issue.
Id rather many other republicans be president than Trump. I’d rather Trump than any of the potential Dems. Is that easy enough for you to understand?
So it IS political dogma, then. Since you’ll never vote democrat.
Didn’t say that. And I have voted Dem before. I said Trump is better than anything the Dems are offering at this point. But there are absolutely Republicans and independents I’d prefer.
verb_to_trust wrote:Imagine ascribing any positive qualities to a man like Donald Trump, let alone making the sweeping declaration that an entire political demographic cannot possibly rise above the sheer perfection that is Trump.
It’s that bad for the Dems. They’re truly awful. Imagine not seeing that even though it’s blatantly obvious.
How'd you feel about the soaring economy throughout the entirety of Obamas occupancy of the house?
You mean the economy that he promised wouldn’t recover when he left office. The one he admitted was a mess and said Trump didn’t have a magic wand to fix?
digster wrote:Again, this is where you always seem to get slipped up, PHATJ. The protestors are undoubtedly predominantely on the left side of the dial, but they're able to see past their partisanship in a way that you can't seem to do with yours. Their problem is with Donald Trump and Andrew Cuomo. They don't care as much about the letter after the name as you do. If they did, they'd be taking it easy on the avowed liberal running NYC. It's silly to say their ideology is in the center, but they're not shackled to partisanship in the way that you are.
I’m hardly shackled. I don’t always vote “R”. I’ve voted “I” several times. I actually strongly argued AGAINST Trump before his election. There were several candidates I preferred. This isn’t about political dogma in every respect for me. It’s about truth, reality, and moving forward in the best way possible.
Than I don't really know what your issue would be with protestors. If you're truly independent and not wanting it to be about parties, I'd think you'd find a lot of common ground with the person who wants both Trump and de Blasio to pack their bags. That person at least has shown they're willing to call out their own.
I have zero issue with Trump not being President. I don’t love him at all. I like him a million times better than anybody the Dems have paraded around over the last year. And he’s infinitely better than Biden. But there are plenty of people I’d much rather have the job.
PHATJ wrote:
Mickey wrote:Which, you know, fits a larger pattern of equivocation, a la "I'm not a fan of Trump but he's better than those Democrats." Did you vote for him? Do you post about how he's being mistreated by the media? Sorry bud, but you're a fan, or at least, a supporter. Politics doesn't happen in some imaginary ideal realm.
I’m a supporter for sure. That doesn’t mean I condone or believe all his rhetoric. It means I think he’s better than anything the left has to offer, and there are no other viable choices.
So which is it? Sounds like you have at least one issue.
Id rather many other republicans be president than Trump. I’d rather Trump than any of the potential Dems. Is that easy enough for you to understand?
Starting to sound like you actually have *many* issues with Trump not being president.
VinylGuy wrote:its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
