Election 2020

[Rob]

Imagine ascribing any positive qualities to a man like Donald Trump, let alone making the sweeping declaration that an entire political demographic cannot possibly rise above the sheer perfection that is Trump.

It’s that bad for the Dems. They’re truly awful. Imagine not seeing that even though it’s blatantly obvious.

Imagine not seeing how obvious it is when your (less than) half of the country can't see how blatantly obvious it is that your side has become a one-trick pony (own the libs).

[Mickey]

Imagine how bad it is for the Dems that they cannot get me, a self-professed conservative, to vote for an anti-conservative candidate!

[wease]

Again, this is where you always seem to get slipped up, PHATJ. The protestors are undoubtedly predominantely on the left side of the dial, but they're able to see past their partisanship in a way that you can't seem to do with yours. Their problem is with Donald Trump and Andrew Cuomo. They don't care as much about the letter after the name as you do. If they did, they'd be taking it easy on the avowed liberal running NYC. It's silly to say their ideology is in the center, but they're not shackled to partisanship in the way that you are.

I’m hardly shackled. I don’t always vote “R”. I’ve voted “I” several times. I actually strongly argued AGAINST Trump before his election. There were several candidates I preferred. This isn’t about political dogma in every respect for me. It’s about truth, reality, and moving forward in the best way possible.

Than I don't really know what your issue would be with protestors. If you're truly independent and not wanting it to be about parties, I'd think you'd find a lot of common ground with the person who wants both Trump and de Blasio to pack their bags. That person at least has shown they're willing to call out their own.

I have zero issue with Trump not being President. I don’t love him at all. I like him a million times better than anybody the Dems have paraded around over the last year. And he’s infinitely better than Biden. But there are plenty of people I’d much rather have the job.

Which, you know, fits a larger pattern of equivocation, a la "I'm not a fan of Trump but he's better than those Democrats." Did you vote for him? Do you post about how he's being mistreated by the media? Sorry bud, but you're a fan, or at least, a supporter. Politics doesn't happen in some imaginary ideal realm.

I’m a supporter for sure. That doesn’t mean I condone or believe all his rhetoric. It means I think he’s better than anything the left has to offer, and there are no other viable choices.

So which is it? Sounds like you have at least one issue.

Id rather many other republicans be president than Trump. I’d rather Trump than any of the potential Dems. Is that easy enough for you to understand?

So it IS political dogma, then. Since you’ll never vote democrat.

Didn’t say that. And I have voted Dem before. I said Trump is better than anything the Dems are offering at this point. But there are absolutely Republicans and independents I’d prefer.

But your hatred for all things liberal/left/democrat would preclude your voting for anyone that ascribes themselves as such.

[Strat]

Imagine ascribing any positive qualities to a man like Donald Trump, let alone making the sweeping declaration that an entire political demographic cannot possibly rise above the sheer perfection that is Trump.

It’s that bad for the Dems. They’re truly awful. Imagine not seeing that even though it’s blatantly obvious.

How'd you feel about the soaring economy throughout the entirety of Obamas occupancy of the house?

You mean the economy that he promised wouldn’t recover when he left office. The one he admitted was a mess and said Trump didn’t have a magic wand to fix?

I believe his comments were that the economy doesnt work for everyone. That is correct. And trump hasn't fixed that.

Again, how did you feel about the soaring economy over the 8 years he was in office?

You are everything you accuse us of, J. You really are. You are a blind team follower and trump regurgitation machine.

[wease]

Imagine ascribing any positive qualities to a man like Donald Trump, let alone making the sweeping declaration that an entire political demographic cannot possibly rise above the sheer perfection that is Trump.

It’s that bad for the Dems. They’re truly awful. Imagine not seeing that even though it’s blatantly obvious.

How'd you feel about the soaring economy throughout the entirety of Obamas occupancy of the house?

You mean the economy that he promised wouldn’t recover when he left office. The one he admitted was a mess and said Trump didn’t have a magic wand to fix?

I believe his comments were that the economy doesnt work for everyone. That is correct. And trump hasn't fixed that.

Again, how did you feel about the soaring economy over the 8 years he was in office?

You are everything you accuse us of, J. You really are. You are a blind team follower and trump regurgitation machine.

What? You mean the economy didn’t go from Bush to Trump?

[PHATJ]

Again, this is where you always seem to get slipped up, PHATJ. The protestors are undoubtedly predominantely on the left side of the dial, but they're able to see past their partisanship in a way that you can't seem to do with yours. Their problem is with Donald Trump and Andrew Cuomo. They don't care as much about the letter after the name as you do. If they did, they'd be taking it easy on the avowed liberal running NYC. It's silly to say their ideology is in the center, but they're not shackled to partisanship in the way that you are.

I’m hardly shackled. I don’t always vote “R”. I’ve voted “I” several times. I actually strongly argued AGAINST Trump before his election. There were several candidates I preferred. This isn’t about political dogma in every respect for me. It’s about truth, reality, and moving forward in the best way possible.

Than I don't really know what your issue would be with protestors. If you're truly independent and not wanting it to be about parties, I'd think you'd find a lot of common ground with the person who wants both Trump and de Blasio to pack their bags. That person at least has shown they're willing to call out their own.

I have zero issue with Trump not being President. I don’t love him at all. I like him a million times better than anybody the Dems have paraded around over the last year. And he’s infinitely better than Biden. But there are plenty of people I’d much rather have the job.

Which, you know, fits a larger pattern of equivocation, a la "I'm not a fan of Trump but he's better than those Democrats." Did you vote for him? Do you post about how he's being mistreated by the media? Sorry bud, but you're a fan, or at least, a supporter. Politics doesn't happen in some imaginary ideal realm.

I’m a supporter for sure. That doesn’t mean I condone or believe all his rhetoric. It means I think he’s better than anything the left has to offer, and there are no other viable choices.

So which is it? Sounds like you have at least one issue.

Id rather many other republicans be president than Trump. I’d rather Trump than any of the potential Dems. Is that easy enough for you to understand?

Starting to sound like you actually have *many* issues with Trump not being president.

No, I don’t care about that at all. Like I clearly said, I do have issues with who would replace him.

[PHATJ]

Imagine ascribing any positive qualities to a man like Donald Trump, let alone making the sweeping declaration that an entire political demographic cannot possibly rise above the sheer perfection that is Trump.

It’s that bad for the Dems. They’re truly awful. Imagine not seeing that even though it’s blatantly obvious.

Imagine not seeing how obvious it is when your (less than) half of the country can't see how blatantly obvious it is that your side has become a one-trick pony (own the libs).

I mean, stop doing 5hings that get you “owned” constantly. *shrug*

[Rob]

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You are everything you accuse us of, J. You really are.

They are always 10x worse with whatever they accuse the other side of.

[PHATJ]

Again, this is where you always seem to get slipped up, PHATJ. The protestors are undoubtedly predominantely on the left side of the dial, but they're able to see past their partisanship in a way that you can't seem to do with yours. Their problem is with Donald Trump and Andrew Cuomo. They don't care as much about the letter after the name as you do. If they did, they'd be taking it easy on the avowed liberal running NYC. It's silly to say their ideology is in the center, but they're not shackled to partisanship in the way that you are.

I’m hardly shackled. I don’t always vote “R”. I’ve voted “I” several times. I actually strongly argued AGAINST Trump before his election. There were several candidates I preferred. This isn’t about political dogma in every respect for me. It’s about truth, reality, and moving forward in the best way possible.

Than I don't really know what your issue would be with protestors. If you're truly independent and not wanting it to be about parties, I'd think you'd find a lot of common ground with the person who wants both Trump and de Blasio to pack their bags. That person at least has shown they're willing to call out their own.

I have zero issue with Trump not being President. I don’t love him at all. I like him a million times better than anybody the Dems have paraded around over the last year. And he’s infinitely better than Biden. But there are plenty of people I’d much rather have the job.

Which, you know, fits a larger pattern of equivocation, a la "I'm not a fan of Trump but he's better than those Democrats." Did you vote for him? Do you post about how he's being mistreated by the media? Sorry bud, but you're a fan, or at least, a supporter. Politics doesn't happen in some imaginary ideal realm.

I’m a supporter for sure. That doesn’t mean I condone or believe all his rhetoric. It means I think he’s better than anything the left has to offer, and there are no other viable choices.

So which is it? Sounds like you have at least one issue.

Id rather many other republicans be president than Trump. I’d rather Trump than any of the potential Dems. Is that easy enough for you to understand?

So it IS political dogma, then. Since you’ll never vote democrat.

Didn’t say that. And I have voted Dem before. I said Trump is better than anything the Dems are offering at this point. But there are absolutely Republicans and independents I’d prefer.

But your hatred for all things liberal/left/democrat would preclude your voting for anyone that ascribes themselves as such.

I don’t hate liberals or democrats. My girlfriend is a democrat. She is a political consultant and a campaign manager for Democrats. Very successful too. And we get along beautifully. And as I just said a few posts back, I’ve voted for both independents and Democrats in the past. So, you are just completely wrong.

[Mickey]

Again, this is where you always seem to get slipped up, PHATJ. The protestors are undoubtedly predominantely on the left side of the dial, but they're able to see past their partisanship in a way that you can't seem to do with yours. Their problem is with Donald Trump and Andrew Cuomo. They don't care as much about the letter after the name as you do. If they did, they'd be taking it easy on the avowed liberal running NYC. It's silly to say their ideology is in the center, but they're not shackled to partisanship in the way that you are.

I’m hardly shackled. I don’t always vote “R”. I’ve voted “I” several times. I actually strongly argued AGAINST Trump before his election. There were several candidates I preferred. This isn’t about political dogma in every respect for me. It’s about truth, reality, and moving forward in the best way possible.

Than I don't really know what your issue would be with protestors. If you're truly independent and not wanting it to be about parties, I'd think you'd find a lot of common ground with the person who wants both Trump and de Blasio to pack their bags. That person at least has shown they're willing to call out their own.

I have zero issue with Trump not being President. I don’t love him at all. I like him a million times better than anybody the Dems have paraded around over the last year. And he’s infinitely better than Biden. But there are plenty of people I’d much rather have the job.

Which, you know, fits a larger pattern of equivocation, a la "I'm not a fan of Trump but he's better than those Democrats." Did you vote for him? Do you post about how he's being mistreated by the media? Sorry bud, but you're a fan, or at least, a supporter. Politics doesn't happen in some imaginary ideal realm.

I’m a supporter for sure. That doesn’t mean I condone or believe all his rhetoric. It means I think he’s better than anything the left has to offer, and there are no other viable choices.

So which is it? Sounds like you have at least one issue.

Id rather many other republicans be president than Trump. I’d rather Trump than any of the potential Dems. Is that easy enough for you to understand?

Starting to sound like you actually have *many* issues with Trump not being president.

No, I don’t care about that at all. Like I clearly said, I do have issues with who would replace him.

But you can't waive a wand and put Mitt Romney or Marco Rubio in charge, bud. Which is fine--everyone here thinks you're a Trump supporter. You're the only one trying to tap-dance around this question by being like "well, I do not condone xyz, there are actually folks I prefer." No, there aren't--not among the set of people who have a viable chance of becoming president in the actual timeline of history, and not given your behavior on this board, which is constantly in support of your big wet boy. "I actually argued against Trump" doesn't account for much other than what I called it originally--equivocation.

[wease]

LOL at Mickey thinking J would ever like Romney. Romney’s anti-Trump!

[PHATJ]

Imagine ascribing any positive qualities to a man like Donald Trump, let alone making the sweeping declaration that an entire political demographic cannot possibly rise above the sheer perfection that is Trump.

It’s that bad for the Dems. They’re truly awful. Imagine not seeing that even though it’s blatantly obvious.

How'd you feel about the soaring economy throughout the entirety of Obamas occupancy of the house?

You mean the economy that he promised wouldn’t recover when he left office. The one he admitted was a mess and said Trump didn’t have a magic wand to fix?

I believe his comments were that the economy doesnt work for everyone. That is correct. And trump hasn't fixed that.

Again, how did you feel about the soaring economy over the 8 years he was in office?

You are everything you accuse us of, J. You really are. You are a blind team follower and trump regurgitation machine.

I did not see a “soaring” economy with Obama. I saw one with some of the most modest economic growth in recent history and massive unemployment numbers, especially amongst minorities. I saw that get exponentially better during Trumps first three years.

[Strat]

Again, this is where you always seem to get slipped up, PHATJ. The protestors are undoubtedly predominantely on the left side of the dial, but they're able to see past their partisanship in a way that you can't seem to do with yours. Their problem is with Donald Trump and Andrew Cuomo. They don't care as much about the letter after the name as you do. If they did, they'd be taking it easy on the avowed liberal running NYC. It's silly to say their ideology is in the center, but they're not shackled to partisanship in the way that you are.

I’m hardly shackled. I don’t always vote “R”. I’ve voted “I” several times. I actually strongly argued AGAINST Trump before his election. There were several candidates I preferred. This isn’t about political dogma in every respect for me. It’s about truth, reality, and moving forward in the best way possible.

Than I don't really know what your issue would be with protestors. If you're truly independent and not wanting it to be about parties, I'd think you'd find a lot of common ground with the person who wants both Trump and de Blasio to pack their bags. That person at least has shown they're willing to call out their own.

I have zero issue with Trump not being President. I don’t love him at all. I like him a million times better than anybody the Dems have paraded around over the last year. And he’s infinitely better than Biden. But there are plenty of people I’d much rather have the job.

Which, you know, fits a larger pattern of equivocation, a la "I'm not a fan of Trump but he's better than those Democrats." Did you vote for him? Do you post about how he's being mistreated by the media? Sorry bud, but you're a fan, or at least, a supporter. Politics doesn't happen in some imaginary ideal realm.

I’m a supporter for sure. That doesn’t mean I condone or believe all his rhetoric. It means I think he’s better than anything the left has to offer, and there are no other viable choices.

So which is it? Sounds like you have at least one issue.

Id rather many other republicans be president than Trump. I’d rather Trump than any of the potential Dems. Is that easy enough for you to understand?

So it IS political dogma, then. Since you’ll never vote democrat.

Didn’t say that. And I have voted Dem before. I said Trump is better than anything the Dems are offering at this point. But there are absolutely Republicans and independents I’d prefer.

But your hatred for all things liberal/left/democrat would preclude your voting for anyone that ascribes themselves as such.

I don’t hate liberals or democrats. My girlfriend is a democrat. She is a political consultant and a campaign manager for Democrats. Very successful too. And we get along beautifully. And as I just said a few posts back, I’ve voted for both independents and Democrats in the past. So, you are just completely wrong.

One night you did have some very choice words about liberals and democrats though. some violent things came out of your fingers calling us all sorts of names. Perhaps you just had 5 too many IPA's.

[wease]

Again, this is where you always seem to get slipped up, PHATJ. The protestors are undoubtedly predominantely on the left side of the dial, but they're able to see past their partisanship in a way that you can't seem to do with yours. Their problem is with Donald Trump and Andrew Cuomo. They don't care as much about the letter after the name as you do. If they did, they'd be taking it easy on the avowed liberal running NYC. It's silly to say their ideology is in the center, but they're not shackled to partisanship in the way that you are.

I’m hardly shackled. I don’t always vote “R”. I’ve voted “I” several times. I actually strongly argued AGAINST Trump before his election. There were several candidates I preferred. This isn’t about political dogma in every respect for me. It’s about truth, reality, and moving forward in the best way possible.

Than I don't really know what your issue would be with protestors. If you're truly independent and not wanting it to be about parties, I'd think you'd find a lot of common ground with the person who wants both Trump and de Blasio to pack their bags. That person at least has shown they're willing to call out their own.

I have zero issue with Trump not being President. I don’t love him at all. I like him a million times better than anybody the Dems have paraded around over the last year. And he’s infinitely better than Biden. But there are plenty of people I’d much rather have the job.

Which, you know, fits a larger pattern of equivocation, a la "I'm not a fan of Trump but he's better than those Democrats." Did you vote for him? Do you post about how he's being mistreated by the media? Sorry bud, but you're a fan, or at least, a supporter. Politics doesn't happen in some imaginary ideal realm.

I’m a supporter for sure. That doesn’t mean I condone or believe all his rhetoric. It means I think he’s better than anything the left has to offer, and there are no other viable choices.

So which is it? Sounds like you have at least one issue.

Id rather many other republicans be president than Trump. I’d rather Trump than any of the potential Dems. Is that easy enough for you to understand?

So it IS political dogma, then. Since you’ll never vote democrat.

Didn’t say that. And I have voted Dem before. I said Trump is better than anything the Dems are offering at this point. But there are absolutely Republicans and independents I’d prefer.

But your hatred for all things liberal/left/democrat would preclude your voting for anyone that ascribes themselves as such.

I don’t hate liberals or democrats. My girlfriend is a democrat. She is a political consultant and a campaign manager for Democrats. Very successful too. And we get along beautifully. And as I just said a few posts back, I’ve voted for both independents and Democrats in the past. So, you are just completely wrong.

“I’m not a racist. I have a black friend.”

[Strat]

Imagine ascribing any positive qualities to a man like Donald Trump, let alone making the sweeping declaration that an entire political demographic cannot possibly rise above the sheer perfection that is Trump.

It’s that bad for the Dems. They’re truly awful. Imagine not seeing that even though it’s blatantly obvious.

How'd you feel about the soaring economy throughout the entirety of Obamas occupancy of the house?

You mean the economy that he promised wouldn’t recover when he left office. The one he admitted was a mess and said Trump didn’t have a magic wand to fix?

I believe his comments were that the economy doesnt work for everyone. That is correct. And trump hasn't fixed that.

Again, how did you feel about the soaring economy over the 8 years he was in office?

You are everything you accuse us of, J. You really are. You are a blind team follower and trump regurgitation machine.

I did not see a “soaring” economy with Obama. I saw one with some of the most modest economic growth in recent history and massive unemployment numbers, especially amongst minorities. I saw that get exponentially better during Trumps first three years.

https://www.factcheck.org/2017/09/obamas-final-numbers/

Lots of good stuff in there.

[PHATJ]

Again, this is where you always seem to get slipped up, PHATJ. The protestors are undoubtedly predominantely on the left side of the dial, but they're able to see past their partisanship in a way that you can't seem to do with yours. Their problem is with Donald Trump and Andrew Cuomo. They don't care as much about the letter after the name as you do. If they did, they'd be taking it easy on the avowed liberal running NYC. It's silly to say their ideology is in the center, but they're not shackled to partisanship in the way that you are.

I’m hardly shackled. I don’t always vote “R”. I’ve voted “I” several times. I actually strongly argued AGAINST Trump before his election. There were several candidates I preferred. This isn’t about political dogma in every respect for me. It’s about truth, reality, and moving forward in the best way possible.

Than I don't really know what your issue would be with protestors. If you're truly independent and not wanting it to be about parties, I'd think you'd find a lot of common ground with the person who wants both Trump and de Blasio to pack their bags. That person at least has shown they're willing to call out their own.

I have zero issue with Trump not being President. I don’t love him at all. I like him a million times better than anybody the Dems have paraded around over the last year. And he’s infinitely better than Biden. But there are plenty of people I’d much rather have the job.

Which, you know, fits a larger pattern of equivocation, a la "I'm not a fan of Trump but he's better than those Democrats." Did you vote for him? Do you post about how he's being mistreated by the media? Sorry bud, but you're a fan, or at least, a supporter. Politics doesn't happen in some imaginary ideal realm.

I’m a supporter for sure. That doesn’t mean I condone or believe all his rhetoric. It means I think he’s better than anything the left has to offer, and there are no other viable choices.

So which is it? Sounds like you have at least one issue.

Id rather many other republicans be president than Trump. I’d rather Trump than any of the potential Dems. Is that easy enough for you to understand?

Starting to sound like you actually have *many* issues with Trump not being president.

No, I don’t care about that at all. Like I clearly said, I do have issues with who would replace him.

But you can't waive a wand and put Mitt Romney or Marco Rubio in charge, bud. Which is fine--everyone here thinks you're a Trump supporter. You're the only one trying to tap-dance around this question by being like "well, I do not condone xyz, there are actually folks I prefer." No, there aren't--not among the set of people who have a viable chance of becoming president in the actual timeline of history, and not given your behavior on this board, which is constantly in support of your big wet boy. "I actually argued against Trump" doesn't account for much other than what I called it originally--equivocation.

I hate Romney. I’d never vote for him and never would. Undecided on Rubio.

And I have also said I am a Trump supporter. That’s mostly because of circumstance and not desire. I know you can’t imagine anyone having thought processes that don’t mimic the mental retardation that it takes to be a Marxist, but I assure you it’s possible. It’s possible to vote for Trump, say he sucks and says idiotic things all the time, and still absolutely know he’s infinitely better than the far leftist politics that the Dems offer.

[PHATJ]

Again, this is where you always seem to get slipped up, PHATJ. The protestors are undoubtedly predominantely on the left side of the dial, but they're able to see past their partisanship in a way that you can't seem to do with yours. Their problem is with Donald Trump and Andrew Cuomo. They don't care as much about the letter after the name as you do. If they did, they'd be taking it easy on the avowed liberal running NYC. It's silly to say their ideology is in the center, but they're not shackled to partisanship in the way that you are.

I’m hardly shackled. I don’t always vote “R”. I’ve voted “I” several times. I actually strongly argued AGAINST Trump before his election. There were several candidates I preferred. This isn’t about political dogma in every respect for me. It’s about truth, reality, and moving forward in the best way possible.

Than I don't really know what your issue would be with protestors. If you're truly independent and not wanting it to be about parties, I'd think you'd find a lot of common ground with the person who wants both Trump and de Blasio to pack their bags. That person at least has shown they're willing to call out their own.

I have zero issue with Trump not being President. I don’t love him at all. I like him a million times better than anybody the Dems have paraded around over the last year. And he’s infinitely better than Biden. But there are plenty of people I’d much rather have the job.

Which, you know, fits a larger pattern of equivocation, a la "I'm not a fan of Trump but he's better than those Democrats." Did you vote for him? Do you post about how he's being mistreated by the media? Sorry bud, but you're a fan, or at least, a supporter. Politics doesn't happen in some imaginary ideal realm.

I’m a supporter for sure. That doesn’t mean I condone or believe all his rhetoric. It means I think he’s better than anything the left has to offer, and there are no other viable choices.

So which is it? Sounds like you have at least one issue.

Id rather many other republicans be president than Trump. I’d rather Trump than any of the potential Dems. Is that easy enough for you to understand?

So it IS political dogma, then. Since you’ll never vote democrat.

Didn’t say that. And I have voted Dem before. I said Trump is better than anything the Dems are offering at this point. But there are absolutely Republicans and independents I’d prefer.

But your hatred for all things liberal/left/democrat would preclude your voting for anyone that ascribes themselves as such.

I don’t hate liberals or democrats. My girlfriend is a democrat. She is a political consultant and a campaign manager for Democrats. Very successful too. And we get along beautifully. And as I just said a few posts back, I’ve voted for both independents and Democrats in the past. So, you are just completely wrong.

One night you did have some very choice words about liberals and democrats though. some violent things came out of your fingers calling us all sorts of names. Perhaps you just had 5 too many IPA's.

Perhaps

[wease]

Imagine ascribing any positive qualities to a man like Donald Trump, let alone making the sweeping declaration that an entire political demographic cannot possibly rise above the sheer perfection that is Trump.

It’s that bad for the Dems. They’re truly awful. Imagine not seeing that even though it’s blatantly obvious.

How'd you feel about the soaring economy throughout the entirety of Obamas occupancy of the house?

You mean the economy that he promised wouldn’t recover when he left office. The one he admitted was a mess and said Trump didn’t have a magic wand to fix?

I believe his comments were that the economy doesnt work for everyone. That is correct. And trump hasn't fixed that.

Again, how did you feel about the soaring economy over the 8 years he was in office?

You are everything you accuse us of, J. You really are. You are a blind team follower and trump regurgitation machine.

I did not see a “soaring” economy with Obama. I saw one with some of the most modest economic growth in recent history and massive unemployment numbers, especially amongst minorities. I saw that get exponentially better during Trumps first three years.

https://www.factcheck.org/2017/09/obamas-final-numbers/

Lots of good stuff in there.

You realize he’ll never open that and will just wave it off as libtard propaganda, right?

[wease]

Again, this is where you always seem to get slipped up, PHATJ. The protestors are undoubtedly predominantely on the left side of the dial, but they're able to see past their partisanship in a way that you can't seem to do with yours. Their problem is with Donald Trump and Andrew Cuomo. They don't care as much about the letter after the name as you do. If they did, they'd be taking it easy on the avowed liberal running NYC. It's silly to say their ideology is in the center, but they're not shackled to partisanship in the way that you are.

I’m hardly shackled. I don’t always vote “R”. I’ve voted “I” several times. I actually strongly argued AGAINST Trump before his election. There were several candidates I preferred. This isn’t about political dogma in every respect for me. It’s about truth, reality, and moving forward in the best way possible.

Than I don't really know what your issue would be with protestors. If you're truly independent and not wanting it to be about parties, I'd think you'd find a lot of common ground with the person who wants both Trump and de Blasio to pack their bags. That person at least has shown they're willing to call out their own.

I have zero issue with Trump not being President. I don’t love him at all. I like him a million times better than anybody the Dems have paraded around over the last year. And he’s infinitely better than Biden. But there are plenty of people I’d much rather have the job.

Which, you know, fits a larger pattern of equivocation, a la "I'm not a fan of Trump but he's better than those Democrats." Did you vote for him? Do you post about how he's being mistreated by the media? Sorry bud, but you're a fan, or at least, a supporter. Politics doesn't happen in some imaginary ideal realm.

I’m a supporter for sure. That doesn’t mean I condone or believe all his rhetoric. It means I think he’s better than anything the left has to offer, and there are no other viable choices.

So which is it? Sounds like you have at least one issue.

Id rather many other republicans be president than Trump. I’d rather Trump than any of the potential Dems. Is that easy enough for you to understand?

Starting to sound like you actually have *many* issues with Trump not being president.

No, I don’t care about that at all. Like I clearly said, I do have issues with who would replace him.

But you can't waive a wand and put Mitt Romney or Marco Rubio in charge, bud. Which is fine--everyone here thinks you're a Trump supporter. You're the only one trying to tap-dance around this question by being like "well, I do not condone xyz, there are actually folks I prefer." No, there aren't--not among the set of people who have a viable chance of becoming president in the actual timeline of history, and not given your behavior on this board, which is constantly in support of your big wet boy. "I actually argued against Trump" doesn't account for much other than what I called it originally--equivocation.

I hate Romney. I’d never vote for him and never would. Undecided on Rubio.

And I have also said I am a Trump supporter. That’s mostly because of circumstance and not desire. I know you can’t imagine anyone having thought processes that don’t mimic the mental retardation that it takes to be a Marxist, but I assure you it’s possible. It’s possible to vote for Trump, say he sucks and says idiotic things all the time, and still absolutely know he’s infinitely better than the far leftist politics that the Dems offer.

Does that include your girlfriend’s employer?

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Again, this is where you always seem to get slipped up, PHATJ. The protestors are undoubtedly predominantely on the left side of the dial, but they're able to see past their partisanship in a way that you can't seem to do with yours. Their problem is with Donald Trump and Andrew Cuomo. They don't care as much about the letter after the name as you do. If they did, they'd be taking it easy on the avowed liberal running NYC. It's silly to say their ideology is in the center, but they're not shackled to partisanship in the way that you are.

I’m hardly shackled. I don’t always vote “R”. I’ve voted “I” several times. I actually strongly argued AGAINST Trump before his election. There were several candidates I preferred. This isn’t about political dogma in every respect for me. It’s about truth, reality, and moving forward in the best way possible.

Than I don't really know what your issue would be with protestors. If you're truly independent and not wanting it to be about parties, I'd think you'd find a lot of common ground with the person who wants both Trump and de Blasio to pack their bags. That person at least has shown they're willing to call out their own.

I have zero issue with Trump not being President. I don’t love him at all. I like him a million times better than anybody the Dems have paraded around over the last year. And he’s infinitely better than Biden. But there are plenty of people I’d much rather have the job.

Which, you know, fits a larger pattern of equivocation, a la "I'm not a fan of Trump but he's better than those Democrats." Did you vote for him? Do you post about how he's being mistreated by the media? Sorry bud, but you're a fan, or at least, a supporter. Politics doesn't happen in some imaginary ideal realm.

I’m a supporter for sure. That doesn’t mean I condone or believe all his rhetoric. It means I think he’s better than anything the left has to offer, and there are no other viable choices.

So which is it? Sounds like you have at least one issue.

Id rather many other republicans be president than Trump. I’d rather Trump than any of the potential Dems. Is that easy enough for you to understand?

So it IS political dogma, then. Since you’ll never vote democrat.

Didn’t say that. And I have voted Dem before. I said Trump is better than anything the Dems are offering at this point. But there are absolutely Republicans and independents I’d prefer.

But your hatred for all things liberal/left/democrat would preclude your voting for anyone that ascribes themselves as such.

I don’t hate liberals or democrats. My girlfriend is a democrat. She is a political consultant and a campaign manager for Democrats. Very successful too. And we get along beautifully. And as I just said a few posts back, I’ve voted for both independents and Democrats in the past. So, you are just completely wrong.

“I’m not a racist. I have a black friend.”

So, now just openly calling me racist for no reason whatsoever, based on nothing I’ve ever said is appropriate? And you wonder why I could have possibly said something negative about you in the past? Hypocrite.