Lightning Bolt: the official album thread

General Pearl Jam discussion.
Post Reply

Rank Lightning Bolt

5 stars
1
1%
4 stars
4
5%
3 stars
29
37%
2 stars
30
38%
1 star
14
18%
 
Total votes: 78

User avatar
harmless
10Club Complaint Department
Posts: 17337
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 2:41 pm

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Post by harmless »

These tracks are MYM trying to sound like pop songs trying to sound like MYM.
RisingTides wrote:There is more kindness on the internet than we would care to admit to ourselves. Sometimes we are so afraid of falling victim to a ruse, we miss out on actual opportunities.
User avatar
Django Butterworth
likes rhythmic things that butt up against each other
Posts: 505
Joined: Tue September 10, 2013 7:30 pm
Location: Omaha

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Post by Django Butterworth »

LTRP has grown on me. Even thought he chorus is still a little "Charles in Charge", the guitar playing is phenomenal and that alone is worth a listen.
User avatar
Lounge Lizard
AnalLog
Posts: 1843
Joined: Tue July 23, 2013 6:51 am

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Post by Lounge Lizard »

harmless wrote:Tbf, MYM was a very different song to all of these, and it wasn't representative at all.
Really?

I feel differently. I think MYM is a close relative of all these. OK, it's punk rawk and all that but it's mostly in a major key and has this happy upbeat atmosphere in it's melody.
Image Image
Lostdog
Yeah Yeah Yeah
Posts: 83
Joined: Sat September 14, 2013 2:26 pm

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Post by Lostdog »

they're really great great songs. what about ed voice? mike solos? for me it has nothing to do with Backspacer, sounds much more solid. :peace:
User avatar
harmless
10Club Complaint Department
Posts: 17337
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 2:41 pm

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Post by harmless »

Lounge Lizard wrote:
harmless wrote:Tbf, MYM was a very different song to all of these, and it wasn't representative at all.
Really?

I feel differently. I think MYM is a close relative of all these. OK, it's punk rawk and all that but it's mostly in a major key and has this happy upbeat atmosphere in it's melody.
Not sure about that, I wouldn't call it 'happy' even if it's upbeat. The riff isn't half as 'happy' as these are. It's not claw-your-face-off aggressive but it's more hard-hitting than these.
RisingTides wrote:There is more kindness on the internet than we would care to admit to ourselves. Sometimes we are so afraid of falling victim to a ruse, we miss out on actual opportunities.
User avatar
Lounge Lizard
AnalLog
Posts: 1843
Joined: Tue July 23, 2013 6:51 am

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Post by Lounge Lizard »

harmless wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:
harmless wrote:Tbf, MYM was a very different song to all of these, and it wasn't representative at all.
Really?

I feel differently. I think MYM is a close relative of all these. OK, it's punk rawk and all that but it's mostly in a major key and has this happy upbeat atmosphere in it's melody.
Not sure about that, I wouldn't call it 'happy' even if it's upbeat. The riff isn't half as 'happy' as these are. It's not claw-your-face-off aggressive but it's more hard-hitting than these.
Naturally.
But to me it's hard hitting in the same shiny mood with the others.
Image Image
User avatar
HardTI
AnalLog
Posts: 1459
Joined: Fri February 22, 2013 5:59 pm

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Post by HardTI »

@SkitchP wrote:Basically these songs sound like Pearl Jam trying to sound like Pearl Jam.
I expect Pearl Jam to sound like Pearl Jam. There is some new stuff in these songs that I haven't heard them try before and that's all I ask of them.
You have to shave your nipples if you want to be with me.
User avatar
Django Butterworth
likes rhythmic things that butt up against each other
Posts: 505
Joined: Tue September 10, 2013 7:30 pm
Location: Omaha

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Post by Django Butterworth »

HardTI wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:Basically these songs sound like Pearl Jam trying to sound like Pearl Jam.
I expect Pearl Jam to sound like Pearl Jam. There is some new stuff in these songs that I haven't heard them try before and that's all I ask of them.
Nail meet head.
User avatar
harmless
10Club Complaint Department
Posts: 17337
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 2:41 pm

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Post by harmless »

Lounge Lizard wrote:
harmless wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:
harmless wrote:Tbf, MYM was a very different song to all of these, and it wasn't representative at all.
Really?

I feel differently. I think MYM is a close relative of all these. OK, it's punk rawk and all that but it's mostly in a major key and has this happy upbeat atmosphere in it's melody.
Not sure about that, I wouldn't call it 'happy' even if it's upbeat. The riff isn't half as 'happy' as these are. It's not claw-your-face-off aggressive but it's more hard-hitting than these.
Naturally.
But to me it's hard hitting in the same shiny mood with the others.
We can agree there, absolutely. I think the track fits with these fine, I just meant that before we had these, we might have expected them to be different, leading some to be even more disappointed that they weren't. MYM was "OK" to some of the haters, but if other songs had been in a more similar vein, that "OK" could've become really good. But then not everyone agrees with me that a song can be lifted or brought down by its context.
RisingTides wrote:There is more kindness on the internet than we would care to admit to ourselves. Sometimes we are so afraid of falling victim to a ruse, we miss out on actual opportunities.
User avatar
harmless
10Club Complaint Department
Posts: 17337
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 2:41 pm

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Post by harmless »

Django Butterworth wrote:
HardTI wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:Basically these songs sound like Pearl Jam trying to sound like Pearl Jam.
I expect Pearl Jam to sound like Pearl Jam. There is some new stuff in these songs that I haven't heard them try before and that's all I ask of them.
Nail meet head.
RisingTides wrote:There is more kindness on the internet than we would care to admit to ourselves. Sometimes we are so afraid of falling victim to a ruse, we miss out on actual opportunities.
User avatar
WtOB?
Rank This Poster
Posts: 4837
Joined: Thu January 31, 2013 7:03 am
Twitter: https://twitter.com/humdinger_dman
Location: by the ocean
Contact:

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Post by WtOB? »

don't worry about it guys, skitch is a huge douche bag.
Dev wrote:i love listening to the leaked pj song "last word".
Thenews15
Yeah Yeah Yeah
Posts: 94
Joined: Tue July 02, 2013 4:37 am

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Post by Thenews15 »

Django Butterworth wrote:I find I am much happier if I take each new record as a separate piece and don't try to compare it stuff they have done previously.

Given that, I am enjoying the shit out of these.

Exactly how I feel. Why compare to 90's PJ? I'm not an angst filled, over emotional teenager anymore so I don't expect the band to be. If I heard "Black" for the first time now that I'm in my mid 30's I'd think it was an overreaction to a high school relationship type song. Would not appeal to me and my life now. I'd probably think, "Why are these guys trying to over dramatize an end of a relationship?" Shit happens.

I think these songs are solid songs. They are upbeat and happy, I can live with it. Jeff sounds great in these and I'm surprised how go Ed sounds.
User avatar
Lounge Lizard
AnalLog
Posts: 1843
Joined: Tue July 23, 2013 6:51 am

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Post by Lounge Lizard »

harmless wrote:But then not everyone agrees with me that a song can be lifted or brought down by its context.
Oh yes it can, there is no doubt about that.
But there are songs and there are songs.
Some are self sufficient to a degree of not needing any sort of context at all.
Image Image
User avatar
Lounge Lizard
AnalLog
Posts: 1843
Joined: Tue July 23, 2013 6:51 am

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Post by Lounge Lizard »

WtOB? wrote:don't worry about it guys, skitch is a huge douche bag.
Damn, so he's overweight too.
Image Image
User avatar
harmless
10Club Complaint Department
Posts: 17337
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 2:41 pm

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Post by harmless »

Lounge Lizard wrote:
harmless wrote:But then not everyone agrees with me that a song can be lifted or brought down by its context.
Oh yes it can, there is no doubt about that.
But there are songs and there are songs.
Some are self sufficient to a degree of not needing any sort of context at all.
Yup.
RisingTides wrote:There is more kindness on the internet than we would care to admit to ourselves. Sometimes we are so afraid of falling victim to a ruse, we miss out on actual opportunities.
keeponjammin89
Yeah Yeah Yeah
Posts: 78
Joined: Thu August 29, 2013 11:55 am

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Post by keeponjammin89 »

Im loving these songs :-) Pearl Jam has not let down. They still got it after 22 years there still growing.
User avatar
WtOB?
Rank This Poster
Posts: 4837
Joined: Thu January 31, 2013 7:03 am
Twitter: https://twitter.com/humdinger_dman
Location: by the ocean
Contact:

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Post by WtOB? »

if anything, some of these songs are pearl jam trying to be something they're not.
Dev wrote:i love listening to the leaked pj song "last word".
User avatar
WtOB?
Rank This Poster
Posts: 4837
Joined: Thu January 31, 2013 7:03 am
Twitter: https://twitter.com/humdinger_dman
Location: by the ocean
Contact:

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Post by WtOB? »

Lounge Lizard wrote:
WtOB? wrote:don't worry about it guys, skitch is a huge douche bag.
Damn, so he's overweight too.
he's super unattractive.
Dev wrote:i love listening to the leaked pj song "last word".
User avatar
harmless
10Club Complaint Department
Posts: 17337
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 2:41 pm

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Post by harmless »

WtOB? wrote:if anything, some of these songs are pearl jam trying to be something they're not.
Or progressing into something you don't like. I think anyone pushing forward could be said to be being 'who they're not'.
RisingTides wrote:There is more kindness on the internet than we would care to admit to ourselves. Sometimes we are so afraid of falling victim to a ruse, we miss out on actual opportunities.
User avatar
Lounge Lizard
AnalLog
Posts: 1843
Joined: Tue July 23, 2013 6:51 am

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Post by Lounge Lizard »

WtOB? wrote:if anything, some of these songs are pearl jam trying to be something they're not.
This must be referring LTRP
Image Image
Post Reply