Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism

[Iholdthepain]

I can't believe some of you are STILL getting trolled by the tree account.

Maybe some of us don't mind? Pretty obvious what he's been doing.

Have fun then, buddy...

been there, done that!

[B]

It's interesting that in the broad spectrum of black voices in publishing or media, tree_ most likes the voice that NO black organization has endorsed and who has a message that, "white people are doing just fine, nothing to see here."

Because their messages are about getting over the whole race thing and not dwelling on it and navel gazing to the point of absurdity.

You're misusing "navel gazing." It means you contemplate yourself at the expense of a wider view. Everyone else in this thread is discussing a societal issues that spans the US, maybe the globe. BLA in this thread, and you'll find everyone having the same discussions on every issue in this forum.

[tree_]

And of course when questioning whether or not religion exists I'm drawn to Sam Harris and Christopher Hitchens because they ask the questions to which believers don't end up having actual answers, just that they have faith.

[tree_]

It's interesting that in the broad spectrum of black voices in publishing or media, tree_ most likes the voice that NO black organization has endorsed and who has a message that, "white people are doing just fine, nothing to see here."

Because their messages are about getting over the whole race thing and not dwelling on it and navel gazing to the point of absurdity.

You're misusing "navel gazing." It means you contemplate yourself at the expense of a wider view. Everyone else in this thread is discussing a societal issues that spans the US, maybe the globe. BLA in this thread, and you'll find everyone having the same discussions on every issue in this forum.

You're right I misused it but you know what I mean.

[tree_]

I can't believe some of you are STILL getting trolled by the tree account.

Maybe some of us don't mind? Pretty obvious what he's been doing.

Have fun then, buddy...

been there, done that!

What are you referring to? Did we get into it before? Sorry but I don't recall.

[Rob]

https://www.benjerry.com/whats-new/2016 ... sm-is-real

Here, tree_, here's something for you to read. I realize this is 4 years old and from a couple dudes who make ice cream, but I promise it's laid out well and there's 20-25 links in this, from reputable sources, that should help you out. You tell me who is being religious after checking it out.

[tree_]

https://www.benjerry.com/whats-new/2016 ... sm-is-real

Here, tree_, here's something for you to read. I realize this is 4 years old and from a couple dudes who make ice cream, but I promise it's laid out well and there's 20-25 links in this, from reputable sources, that should help you out. You tell me who is being religious after checking it out.

I will check it out. Thanks.

[Self]

Guys, it's not proof tree wants. It's confirmation that what he believes is right.

[tree_]

Guys, it's not proof tree wants. It's confirmation that what he believes is right.

I don't have a belief on this subject, I have a lack of belief. Big difference.

[wease]

https://www.benjerry.com/whats-new/2016 ... sm-is-real

Here, tree_, here's something for you to read. I realize this is 4 years old and from a couple dudes who make ice cream, but I promise it's laid out well and there's 20-25 links in this, from reputable sources, that should help you out. You tell me who is being religious after checking it out.

He will not read that. And if, by some miracle he does, he’ll say that it provides no proof at all. Actually, he’ll probably just say that and not even bother with the link.

C’mon, stop feeding the troll.

[epilogue]

It's interesting that in the broad spectrum of black voices in publishing or media, tree_ most likes the voice that NO black organization has endorsed and who has a message that, "white people are doing just fine, nothing to see here."

Because their messages are about getting over the whole race thing and not dwelling on it and navel gazing to the point of absurdity.

I'm not interesting it "getting over the whole race thing." And I'm not interested in anyone who is interested in that kind nonsense.

You want an example of systematic racism? Read your quote above. You literally just posted a great example of it.

[epilogue]

I can't believe some of you are STILL getting trolled by the tree account.

Maybe some of us don't mind? Pretty obvious what he's been doing.

I think tree just reminds me of some friends who have undergone a similar thing. It could be scripted out pretty much to the word; someone says that they've seen the light, and transcended party or partisanship, and look down on the lefty sheeple! who are extremely close-minded. We just need to have more of an open mind, and when they start talking, it's basically a Ben Shapiro transcript.

It's not the adherence to a certain way of thinking that's fascinating; it's more than, almost without fail, there's this completely lack of awareness that they've traded one set of talking points for another.

Nah. But I like that you're kind enough to give him that much credit. Tree isn't interested in these ideas. He's only interested in co-opting a thread and making it about himself. He know exactly what he's doing and he's really fucking good at it.

[B]

George Floyd's family wishes that Derek Chauvin had gotten over the whole race thing.

[Rob]

Guys, it's not proof tree wants. It's confirmation that what he believes is right.

Of course. But he asked for evidence, someone should give him some.

C’mon, stop feeding the troll.

This place gets slow mid-afternoon.

[McParadigm]

My favorite part of this was when he pointed out that wealth gaps exist among almost every “out“ group...as part of an argument that we’ve achieved nominal societal equality?

[epilogue]

My favorite part of this was when he pointed out that wealth gaps exist among almost every “out“ group...as part of an argument that we’ve achieved nominal societal equality?

Prove it though

[tree_]

It's interesting that in the broad spectrum of black voices in publishing or media, tree_ most likes the voice that NO black organization has endorsed and who has a message that, "white people are doing just fine, nothing to see here."

Because their messages are about getting over the whole race thing and not dwelling on it and navel gazing to the point of absurdity.

I'm not interesting it "getting over the whole race thing." And I'm not interested in anyone who is interested in that kind nonsense.

You want an example of systematic racism? Read your quote above. You literally just posted a great example of it.

What I mean is that I want race to not be a factor. And it doesn't have to be. In my mind, believe it or not, I think of all humans as inherently equal, no matter what race or gender etc. Yes I know the "I don't see color" trope has somehow become a taboo. But my god isn't that the right goal?

[E.H. Ruddock]

Guys, it's not proof tree wants. It's confirmation that what he believes is right.

I don't have a belief on this subject, I have a lack of belief. Big difference.

You don't believe systemic racism exists, clearly. That is a belief, pal

[tree_]

My favorite part of this was when he pointed out that wealth gaps exist among almost every “out“ group...as part of an argument that we’ve achieved nominal societal equality?

Prove it though

I don't think perfectly equal outcomes in every field between every group should be expected because of many factors. To assume it's racism or sexism or whatever without proof is jumping to conclusions.

[tree_]

Guys, it's not proof tree wants. It's confirmation that what he believes is right.

I don't have a belief on this subject, I have a lack of belief. Big difference.

You don't believe systemic racism exists, clearly. That is a belief, pal

I'm telling you that I haven't seen proof yet but will believe it if I see it.