Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism

[Strat]

But it's a perceived and self-fulfilling experience. Did you read the washington post rebuttal I posted in full at your request?

Being a cop is difficult. If done correctly, you are prepared for the worst, but don't misjudge the situation.

Yes. It was compelling. I'm going to re-read it and get more facts.

There is the idea of the "chicken or the egg" that's interesting to think about. It's hard to know which comes first.

If you knew a goddamn thing about racism in this country you would understand this is not a difficult question. For fucks sake, tree.

Please educate me.

We've all fucking tried but you are here to troll so....no.

[tree_]

But it's a perceived and self-fulfilling experience. Did you read the washington post rebuttal I posted in full at your request?

Being a cop is difficult. If done correctly, you are prepared for the worst, but don't misjudge the situation.

Yes. It was compelling. I'm going to re-read it and get more facts.

There is the idea of the "chicken or the egg" that's interesting to think about. It's hard to know which comes first.

If you knew a goddamn thing about racism in this country you would understand this is not a difficult question. For fucks sake, tree.

Please educate me.

We've all fucking tried but you are here to troll so....no.

No.. again, not an argument.

[tree_]

You might want to read this, Strat

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/03 ... igion.html

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can we just ban tree

he doesnt even add a minuscule of formative thought to any thread he posts in

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[Mickey]

I'd never foe'd someone before but I'm a big fan of this feature now.

[B]

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Yeah so you didn't have an open mind at all. You're just a racist fucking troll

SOMEbody's been telling you this all along!!!

[tree_]

Let me just clear this up. If white people and black people switched roles in the history of America, I have no doubt white people would be in the same socioeconomic situation blacks are in now, if not worse. Probably worse, because with sheer talent, black people broke through in music, for example, in a way I can't imagine white people would have, faced with insurmountable opposition. I don't think white people are inherently better than any other race. That's silly. That would actually be racism. There is history of slavery and racism in America that lead the black community to where they are now. The question is, are the police holding them down today? When it comes to the chicken or the egg idea, are police responsible for keeping the black community relatively poor and in prisons? It's hard to answer that question. I'm sure it's not completely obvious, like so many of you are pretending today.

[B]

Probably worse, because with sheer talent, black people broke through in music, for example, in a way I can't imagine white people would have, faced with insurmountable opposition.

It's funny that within your defense of your racist opinions, you introduce entirely new racist concepts.

[tree_]

Probably worse, because with sheer talent, black people broke through in music, for example, in a way I can't imagine white people would have, faced with insurmountable opposition.

It's funny that within your defense of your racist opinions, you introduce entirely new racist concepts.

I think black people produced undeniably great music. Even when people are racists, they had to love the music. I think it's more undeniably good and influential than the music white people produced. Is this actually racist or just me being a fan?

[tree_]

No, I don't think we're identical culturally or genetically. But we are inherently equal and should be treated as such.

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Probably worse, because with sheer talent, black people broke through in music, for example, in a way I can't imagine white people would have, faced with insurmountable opposition.

It's funny that within your defense of your racist opinions, you introduce entirely new racist concepts.

I think black people produced undeniably great music. Even when people are racists, they had to love the music. I think it's more undeniably good and influential than the music white people produced. Is this actually racist or just me being a fan?

You said yourself, "even when people are racists, they had to love the music", so obviously it's racist.

[tree_]

Probably worse, because with sheer talent, black people broke through in music, for example, in a way I can't imagine white people would have, faced with insurmountable opposition.

It's funny that within your defense of your racist opinions, you introduce entirely new racist concepts.

I think black people produced undeniably great music. Even when people are racists, they had to love the music. I think it's more undeniably good and influential than the music white people produced. Is this actually racist or just me being a fan?

You said yourself, "even when people are racists, they had to love the music", so obviously it's racist.

What I mean is that, in a time when black people are being held down, they still managed to break through in certain fields, with sheer, undeniable talent.

[Self]

Probably worse, because with sheer talent, black people broke through in music, for example, in a way I can't imagine white people would have, faced with insurmountable opposition.

It's funny that within your defense of your racist opinions, you introduce entirely new racist concepts.

I think black people produced undeniably great music. Even when people are racists, they had to love the music. I think it's more undeniably good and influential than the music white people produced. Is this actually racist or just me being a fan?

You said yourself, "even when people are racists, they had to love the music", so obviously it's racist.

What I mean is that, in a time when black people are being held down, they still managed to break through in certain fields, with sheer, undeniable talent.

I think B's point was that you said that white people couldn't have done the same thing...because they're white. You're ascribing an inequality based on race.

[B]

Probably worse, because with sheer talent, black people broke through in music, for example, in a way I can't imagine white people would have, faced with insurmountable opposition.

It's funny that within your defense of your racist opinions, you introduce entirely new racist concepts.

I think black people produced undeniably great music. Even when people are racists, they had to love the music. I think it's more undeniably good and influential than the music white people produced. Is this actually racist or just me being a fan?

You said yourself, "even when people are racists, they had to love the music", so obviously it's racist.

What I mean is that, in a time when black people are being held down, they still managed to break through in certain fields, with sheer, undeniable talent.

I think B's point was that you said that white people couldn't have done the same thing...because they're white. You're ascribing an inequality based on race.

Maybe he'd be smart enough to figure it out if he was Asian.

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Probably worse, because with sheer talent, black people broke through in music, for example, in a way I can't imagine white people would have, faced with insurmountable opposition.

It's funny that within your defense of your racist opinions, you introduce entirely new racist concepts.

I think black people produced undeniably great music. Even when people are racists, they had to love the music. I think it's more undeniably good and influential than the music white people produced. Is this actually racist or just me being a fan?

You said yourself, "even when people are racists, they had to love the music", so obviously it's racist.

What I mean is that, in a time when black people are being held down, they still managed to break through in certain fields, with sheer, undeniable talent.

I think B's point was that you said that white people couldn't have done the same thing...because they're white. You're ascribing an inequality based on race.

Maybe he'd be smart enough to figure it out if he was Asian.

But no, he's Jimmy the Greek.

[tree_]

Probably worse, because with sheer talent, black people broke through in music, for example, in a way I can't imagine white people would have, faced with insurmountable opposition.

It's funny that within your defense of your racist opinions, you introduce entirely new racist concepts.

I think black people produced undeniably great music. Even when people are racists, they had to love the music. I think it's more undeniably good and influential than the music white people produced. Is this actually racist or just me being a fan?

You said yourself, "even when people are racists, they had to love the music", so obviously it's racist.

What I mean is that, in a time when black people are being held down, they still managed to break through in certain fields, with sheer, undeniable talent.

I think B's point was that you said that white people couldn't have done the same thing...because they're white. You're ascribing an inequality based on race.

Maybe I took it too far in the opposite direction because I'm white and it might convince you that because I'm white, I couldn't be racist if I denigrate my own race... You all seem to be thinking so illogically and unfairly... Who's to say how history would turn out changing things around jfc

[tree_]

I hope you all are enjoying throwing racist stones. You are bullies.

[B]

I hope you all are enjoying throwing racist stones. You are bullies.

If all I did today was bully a racist for being racist. I'm ok with that.

[Strat]

You should also maybe start studying black people and them becoming "successful" in music.