Lightning Bolt: the official album thread

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Rank Lightning Bolt

5 stars
1
1%
4 stars
4
5%
3 stars
29
37%
2 stars
30
38%
1 star
14
18%
 
Total votes: 78

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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Please... lets not have a drummer debate. Dime you troll :lol:
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Juvenal wrote:Please... lets not have a drummer debate. Dime you troll :lol:

You gotta know we'll never let it go
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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E.H. Ruddock wrote:Lots of outrageous claims being made about songs only listened to for two days.
Are they more outrageous if they're positive?
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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E.H. Ruddock wrote:Lots of outrageous claims being made about songs only listened to for two days.
Same happened with CC an LIR. Reality should kick in around feb.
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LetMeSleep wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Lots of outrageous claims being made about songs only listened to for two days.
Same happened with CC an LIR. Reality should kick in around feb.
It hasn't yet for those songs :lol:
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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harmless wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Lots of outrageous claims being made about songs only listened to for two days.
Are they more outrageous if they're positive?
I just mean people saying they are better than established PJ songs after two days is outrageous. Not in bad way, just, outrageous.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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E.H. Ruddock wrote:
harmless wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Lots of outrageous claims being made about songs only listened to for two days.
Are they more outrageous if they're positive?
I just mean people saying they are better than established PJ songs after two days is outrageous. Not in bad way, just, outrageous.

I dont want to be part of an internet that isn't outrageous. You know?
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Strat wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
harmless wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Lots of outrageous claims being made about songs only listened to for two days.
Are they more outrageous if they're positive?
I just mean people saying they are better than established PJ songs after two days is outrageous. Not in bad way, just, outrageous.

I dont want to be part of an internet that isn't outrageous. You know?
I haven't really compared these songs to any past ones, I find it pointless. But comparing Matt's drum tone and playing to Riot Act more than Backspacer is easy.
RisingTides wrote:There is more kindness on the internet than we would care to admit to ourselves. Sometimes we are so afraid of falling victim to a ruse, we miss out on actual opportunities.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Fuck tone.

(Fucktone. Great name for a band)

But yeah. His playing has finally found a place in Pj. Or they've made room for his playing.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Fuck tone? Tone is a massive part of what's put me off him as a drummer. Not everything, but important.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Matt Cameron or Burst.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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E.H. Ruddock wrote:Lots of outrageous claims being made about songs only listened to for two days.
These are the best 4 songs we have got from this band since the Boy album
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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harmless wrote:
Strat wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
harmless wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Lots of outrageous claims being made about songs only listened to for two days.
Are they more outrageous if they're positive?
I just mean people saying they are better than established PJ songs after two days is outrageous. Not in bad way, just, outrageous.

I dont want to be part of an internet that isn't outrageous. You know?
I haven't really compared these songs to any past ones, I find it pointless. But comparing Matt's drum tone and playing to Riot Act more than Backspacer is easy.
I agree on all accounts. I won't "compare" these to past songs. They are different and new. They were written by minds that have changed and grown and evolved throughout every album since ten. In some ways that is good and in some ways not so good but they are what they are and I judge them solely based on their own constructs....that being said. GETAWAY IS MY JAM BABY YEAH!! Maybe its the Agnostic in me....maybe its the music lover jamming out to the groovy rhythm of the track and the rockin buildup of it all. Maybe its eddies delivery of the lyrics...or the whole damn thing.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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harmless wrote:Fuck tone? Tone is a massive part of what's put me off him as a drummer. Not everything, but important.

Is tone in drums where the snare sounds too right and sharp vs it being looser/relaxed?
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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harmless wrote:Fuck tone? Tone is a massive part of what's put me off him as a drummer. Not everything, but important.
His drumming has never been a issue I love it on alot of songs, but as much as I enjoy Backspacer I can not stand his snap and pop on that record this is more like his earlier tones which I like alot.
His tone on backspacer reminds me alot of Topper Headon's tone which I like when Topper is playing, but I like Matt's tone more reserved this fits the bill really well. I think he is playing really cool stuff in Swallowed Whole.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Walker Bait wrote:
harmless wrote:
Strat wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
harmless wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Lots of outrageous claims being made about songs only listened to for two days.
Are they more outrageous if they're positive?
I just mean people saying they are better than established PJ songs after two days is outrageous. Not in bad way, just, outrageous.

I dont want to be part of an internet that isn't outrageous. You know?
I haven't really compared these songs to any past ones, I find it pointless. But comparing Matt's drum tone and playing to Riot Act more than Backspacer is easy.
I agree on all accounts. I won't "compare" these to past songs. They are different and new. They were written by minds that have changed and grown and evolved throughout every album since ten. In some ways that is good and in some ways not so good but they are what they are and I judge them solely based on their own constructs....that being said. GETAWAY IS MY JAM BABY YEAH!! Maybe its the Agnostic in me....maybe its the music lover jamming out to the groovy rhythm of the track and the rockin buildup of it all. Maybe its eddies delivery of the lyrics...or the whole damn thing.
How you summed up Getaway is how I feel :D
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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MC is in Pj 15 years and he's still the new guy. That's weird.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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dimejinky99 wrote:MC is in Pj 15 years and he's still the new guy. That's weird.
I think we count Ed's hairplugs tho.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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dimejinky99 wrote:MC is in Pj 15 years and he's still the new guy. That's weird.
This means they are all very old guys.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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harmless wrote:Matt doesn't do nearly enough on MYM to put fire in my loins.

But on everything else, he's good. His drum tone and the feel of his playing (especially the "groove" he has found on Getaway) reminds me quite a lot of Riot Act. There's more "Can't Keep" in his playing than S/T or Backspacer, for sure. I don't think he's finally found a groove that works with PJ, he's got back a bit of what worked during Binaural and Riot Act.

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