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I fall more in line with this. The first 2-3 seasons have their moments, but they don't the hit the same way those other shows do.durdencommatyler wrote:I do not care for Arrested Development. It's not my taste at all.Jorge wrote:The original run of Arrested Development is better than all these shows
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Michael becomes lovable. But it's a long road. Giving him some identifiable humanity and making him good at his job are big parts of what makes the show work, I think. And again that's largely because it's earned over time.VinylGuy wrote:i was angry because in the original, the main guy is a horrible guy. And in the american version he is lovable.
The creators have talked about the conscious decision to make those changes for an American audience. I think they were right. But it is very American. So it makes a degree of sense that it's harder for you to relate.
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No thank you. Y'all can keep all of it. I can't think of a popular comedy that I dislike as much as Arrested Development.VinylGuy wrote:first three seasons are untouchable. Forth season is a weird mix. I couldnt finish the last one.durdencommatyler wrote:I do not care for Arrested Development. It's not my taste at all.Jorge wrote:The original run of Arrested Development is better than all these shows
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Wow. It's like I don't even know you.
VinylGuy wrote:its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
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Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
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Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
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You are literally the only one talking about styles of comedy; Joe asserted "The Office is the GOAT half-hour sitcom," and i countered "Arrested Development is a better half-hour sitcom." The above is completely irrelevant.tragabigzanda wrote:Jorge wrote:Also who was talking about "styles of comedy"? Joe said half-hour sitcomsThese posts go hand-in-hand, I think, because those other four shows are very much comfort shows: Easily likable characters, pretty low stakes, and broad comedy that frequently references pop culture and other ephemera in an effort to bring in as many viewers as possible.Jorge wrote:It's my girlfriend's go-to comfort show. She watches an episode almost every day.
Arrested Development is the opposite of that: It's patently absurdist, insular comedy that requires longterm viewing for certain jokes to land. It's not about pop culture references, and while still a comedy, the stakes also include hands being bitten off, prison, incest, mental impairment...I absolutely love the first run of AD, but it's a completely different animal than what we're talking about here.
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Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
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Arrested Development pushed the boundaries of the half-hour form much further than The Office, doing a ton of things that are now common-practice in shows like P&R.
VinylGuy wrote:its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
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It's not "out of nowhere" if the conversation was about half-hour sitcoms, which it was. Now if Joe had said "The Office is the GOAT half-hour sitcom with likable characters, pretty low stakes, and broad comedy that frequently references pop culture and other ephemera in an effort to bring in as many viewers as possible" you'd have a point, but he didn't so this is just you trying to take control of the conversation. You should stop that, it's annoyingtragabigzanda wrote:I don't think it's accidental that those four comedies were lumped together by multiple posters in thus conversation, and that you dragged in AD seemingly out of nowhere. You are wrong!Jorge wrote:You are literally the only one talking about styles of comedy; Joe asserted "The Office is the GOAT half-hour sitcom," and i countered "Arrested Development is a better half-hour sitcom." The above is completely irrelevant.tragabigzanda wrote:Jorge wrote:Also who was talking about "styles of comedy"? Joe said half-hour sitcomsThese posts go hand-in-hand, I think, because those other four shows are very much comfort shows: Easily likable characters, pretty low stakes, and broad comedy that frequently references pop culture and other ephemera in an effort to bring in as many viewers as possible.Jorge wrote:It's my girlfriend's go-to comfort show. She watches an episode almost every day.
Arrested Development is the opposite of that: It's patently absurdist, insular comedy that requires longterm viewing for certain jokes to land. It's not about pop culture references, and while still a comedy, the stakes also include hands being bitten off, prison, incest, mental impairment...I absolutely love the first run of AD, but it's a completely different animal than what we're talking about here.
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Guys, can we all acknowledge how these shows directly influenced the greatest show available on Netflix, Fuller House?
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Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
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Really feel like I won this one
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jesus joe, The Office is no difficult to relate at all. Do you even know something about Argentina?durdencommatyler wrote:Michael becomes lovable. But it's a long road. Giving him some identifiable humanity and making him good at his job are big parts of what makes the show work, I think. And again that's largely because it's earned over time.VinylGuy wrote:i was angry because in the original, the main guy is a horrible guy. And in the american version he is lovable.
The creators have talked about the conscious decision to make those changes for an American audience. I think they were right. But it is very American. So it makes a degree of sense that it's harder for you to relate.
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Good Lord. I just wanted to talk about a stupid lava show and you guys buried that real fast. Here is the only right opinion. The Office (U.S.), parks and rec, and to a lesser degree 30 rock are way overrated. First three seasons of AD are pure genius but they take jumped the shark coming back. Like, bad. Now STFU and talk about braindead game shows that make you dumber by watching
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I saw that lava show. Did they steal that idea from community?E.H. Ruddock wrote:Good Lord. I just wanted to talk about a stupid lava show and you guys buried that real fast. Here is the only right opinion. The Office (U.S.), parks and rec, and to a lesser degree 30 rock are way overrated. First three seasons of AD are pure genius but they take jumped the shark coming back. Like, bad. Now STFU and talk about braindead game shows that make you dumber by watching
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Perhaps that was poor wording. My apologies.VinylGuy wrote:jesus joe, The Office is no difficult to relate at all. Do you even know something about Argentina?durdencommatyler wrote:Michael becomes lovable. But it's a long road. Giving him some identifiable humanity and making him good at his job are big parts of what makes the show work, I think. And again that's largely because it's earned over time.VinylGuy wrote:i was angry because in the original, the main guy is a horrible guy. And in the american version he is lovable.
The creators have talked about the conscious decision to make those changes for an American audience. I think they were right. But it is very American. So it makes a degree of sense that it's harder for you to relate.
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THEY STOLE THE IDEA FROM EVERY KID IN THE WORLD STRATStrat wrote:I saw that lava show. Did they steal that idea from community?E.H. Ruddock wrote:Good Lord. I just wanted to talk about a stupid lava show and you guys buried that real fast. Here is the only right opinion. The Office (U.S.), parks and rec, and to a lesser degree 30 rock are way overrated. First three seasons of AD are pure genius but they take jumped the shark coming back. Like, bad. Now STFU and talk about braindead game shows that make you dumber by watching
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I talked about it! It's boring as fuck, Ruddo!E.H. Ruddock wrote:Good Lord. I just wanted to talk about a stupid lava show and you guys buried that real fast. Here is the only right opinion. The Office (U.S.), parks and rec, and to a lesser degree 30 rock are way overrated. First three seasons of AD are pure genius but they take jumped the shark coming back. Like, bad. Now STFU and talk about braindead game shows that make you dumber by watching
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