Lightning Bolt: the official album thread

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Rank Lightning Bolt

5 stars
1
1%
4 stars
4
5%
3 stars
29
37%
2 stars
30
38%
1 star
14
18%
 
Total votes: 78

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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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We need to stop pretending any of these guys don't like pop music.

Even The Who, "Tommy", "rock opera" = pop music. How do we not know this?
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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harmless wrote:Lounge, listen to the other tracks before you've decided Pearl Jam are dead. We have the logical extension of Backspacer but it's only 4/5 songs so far.
That's what's holding me in :thumbsup:

I love them too much to just sorta slam the door...
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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It would be interesting to have seen people's reaction to Let The Records Play had it been on Moonlander. I wonder how our expectations differ.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Lounge Lizard wrote:
harmless wrote:Lounge, listen to the other tracks before you've decided Pearl Jam are dead. We have the logical extension of Backspacer but it's only 4/5 songs so far.
That's what's holding me in :thumbsup:

I love them too much to just sorta slam the door...
How happy would you be with these 4/5 if they turn out to be connective tissue?
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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iceagecoming wrote:It would be interesting to have seen people's reaction to Let The Records Play had it been on Moonlander. I wonder how our expectations differ.
Considering how everyone tends to drool over Moonlander in general, something I will probably never understand...
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harmless wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:
harmless wrote:Lounge, listen to the other tracks before you've decided Pearl Jam are dead. We have the logical extension of Backspacer but it's only 4/5 songs so far.
That's what's holding me in :thumbsup:

I love them too much to just sorta slam the door...
How happy would you be with these 4/5 if they turn out to be connective tissue?
This depends entirely on what they are connecting.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Lounge Lizard wrote:
harmless wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:
harmless wrote:Lounge, listen to the other tracks before you've decided Pearl Jam are dead. We have the logical extension of Backspacer but it's only 4/5 songs so far.
That's what's holding me in :thumbsup:

I love them too much to just sorta slam the door...
How happy would you be with these 4/5 if they turn out to be connective tissue?
This depends entirely on what they are connecting.
Totally.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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stip wrote:
stupidmop wrote:I need a Jeff or stone interview. I feel like they'd be the least likely to be down with all this pop nonsense (i made this up based on nothing). Jeff needs to lock bob in a box, and egg eds house, get him good and cranky again.
Stone wrote let the records play
Im willing to bet cold hard monopoly money that stone wrote the bluesy parts of the song and either BoB suggested or ed just shoehorned that crap in the middle in. I'll give you park avenue and all my fucking hotels too.

Honestly stones voice lends a weird sarcastic quality to all of his songs, it probably would have worked better. But I'd have probably listened to it the same amount of time I did moonlander, exactly half a time. Still ain't finished it.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Mirella wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:Getaway aside, I'm having trouble placing any of these in the context of a pj live set list.

And btw, they all become much more fun if you just imagine ed dancing along to them.
Or scary depending on your view of his moves :)
That is how my bf judges it: very danceable.

groetjes,
Mirella :)

That's a really good way to judge new songs.

Writing rock songs that are danceable really is difficult.
First time I think pj have really managed it.
Calibrate your enthusiasm
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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stupidmop wrote:
stip wrote:
stupidmop wrote:I need a Jeff or stone interview. I feel like they'd be the least likely to be down with all this pop nonsense (i made this up based on nothing). Jeff needs to lock bob in a box, and egg eds house, get him good and cranky again.
Stone wrote let the records play
Im willing to bet cold hard monopoly money that stone wrote the bluesy parts of the song and either BoB suggested or ed just shoehorned that crap in the middle in.

What do you do to your Monopoly money?
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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But seriously, would it hurt them to write riff driven songs again?
Look at MYM -- a simple riff but it makes the song stand out... Even though it's punk (which I consider one of the more primitive sub genres of rock music), but it makes the song stand out!
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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If "Let the Records Play" had been on Moonlander I reckon I'd regard it similarly to "Witch Doctor"-- that is "feh, whatever, I'll probably never listen to it again". But it falters and falls down under the added weight of Eddie's voice and the band's patronage.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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harmless wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:
harmless wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:
harmless wrote:Lounge, listen to the other tracks before you've decided Pearl Jam are dead. We have the logical extension of Backspacer but it's only 4/5 songs so far.
That's what's holding me in :thumbsup:

I love them too much to just sorta slam the door...
How happy would you be with these 4/5 if they turn out to be connective tissue?
This depends entirely on what they are connecting.
Totally.
This has been (assuming the other half of the record has a different feel) an interesting exercise in the potential dangers of only listening to half of a finished product
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Lounge Lizard wrote:But seriously, would it hurt them to write riff driven songs again?
Look at MYM -- a simple riff but it makes the song stand out... Even though it's punk (which I consider one of the more primitive sub genres of rock music), but it makes the song stand out!
Isn't getaway a riff driven song?
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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dimejinky99 wrote:Writing rock songs that are danceable really is difficult.
First time I think pj have really managed it.
Glorified G always moved me in a similar way. Makes you wanna move your feet :)
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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dimejinky99 wrote:
Mirella wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:Getaway aside, I'm having trouble placing any of these in the context of a pj live set list.

And btw, they all become much more fun if you just imagine ed dancing along to them.
Or scary depending on your view of his moves :)
That is how my bf judges it: very danceable.

groetjes,
Mirella :)

That's a really good way to judge new songs.

Writing rock songs that are danceable really is difficult.
First time I think pj have really managed it.
100% that.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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dimejinky99 wrote:
Mirella wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:Getaway aside, I'm having trouble placing any of these in the context of a pj live set list.

And btw, they all become much more fun if you just imagine ed dancing along to them.
Or scary depending on your view of his moves :)
That is how my bf judges it: very danceable.

groetjes,
Mirella :)

That's a really good way to judge new songs.

Writing rock songs that are danceable really is difficult.
First time I think pj have really managed it.
200% that.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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stip wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:But seriously, would it hurt them to write riff driven songs again?
Look at MYM -- a simple riff but it makes the song stand out... Even though it's punk (which I consider one of the more primitive sub genres of rock music), but it makes the song stand out!
Isn't getaway a riff driven song?
Yes, and I like it. But MYM is better/
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Lounge Lizard wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:Writing rock songs that are danceable really is difficult.
First time I think pj have really managed it.
Glorified G always moved me in a similar way. Makes you wanna move your feet :)
Actually yeah, that one too.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Lounge Lizard wrote:
stip wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:But seriously, would it hurt them to write riff driven songs again?
Look at MYM -- a simple riff but it makes the song stand out... Even though it's punk (which I consider one of the more primitive sub genres of rock music), but it makes the song stand out!
Isn't getaway a riff driven song?
Yes, and I like it. But MYM is better/
MYM is a riff-driven song, but the riff is just passable. I'm just not sure if they're that inclined anymore. Does Stone write huge chunky riffs for his own songs? I don't think so.
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