Lightning Bolt: the official album thread

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Rank Lightning Bolt

5 stars
1
1%
4 stars
4
5%
3 stars
29
37%
2 stars
30
38%
1 star
14
18%
 
Total votes: 78

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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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harmless wrote:
hlniv wrote:
stip wrote:the thing about songs with more prominent hooks and melodies is that even if they aren't my favorites they won't feel like work to listen to, and a lot of the other 3 star songs in the catalog just get skipped after a while because, unless I haven't heard it in a while and want to revisit it, it kinda feels like work to listen and that's time I could be listening to something else.

If Pearl Jam writes a great song I'd probably (usually) rather it be a bit darker and serious, or have the dramatic cathartic sweep that something like lightning bolt has (if you had told me after the first time I heard the wrigley version I would be in love with the studio track I never would have believed you), because the extra gravity elevates the song. So I am still expecting/hoping that something like Pendulum or Infallible will be my favorite song on the record. But if it's going to be one of the 'pretty good' songs that I put towards the bottom of an album I'd rather they sound like this.

I think Backspacer has a bunch of really strong songs (GSMF and Force of Nature are my favorites) but what is so appealing about that record is that really nothing is a chore to listen to. Other than the 4-5 songs that I love on each record Binaural and Riot Act feel like work.
That's just lazy. Your like of backspacer makes sense now. It's caused by laziness

I have a 2yo, so you cant just say its the new baby.
What a lazy argument. Sunbathing by the pool is "lazy" compared to climbing a rock face.
What a lazy rebuttal.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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harmless wrote:
hlniv wrote:
stip wrote:the thing about songs with more prominent hooks and melodies is that even if they aren't my favorites they won't feel like work to listen to, and a lot of the other 3 star songs in the catalog just get skipped after a while because, unless I haven't heard it in a while and want to revisit it, it kinda feels like work to listen and that's time I could be listening to something else.

If Pearl Jam writes a great song I'd probably (usually) rather it be a bit darker and serious, or have the dramatic cathartic sweep that something like lightning bolt has (if you had told me after the first time I heard the wrigley version I would be in love with the studio track I never would have believed you), because the extra gravity elevates the song. So I am still expecting/hoping that something like Pendulum or Infallible will be my favorite song on the record. But if it's going to be one of the 'pretty good' songs that I put towards the bottom of an album I'd rather they sound like this.

I think Backspacer has a bunch of really strong songs (GSMF and Force of Nature are my favorites) but what is so appealing about that record is that really nothing is a chore to listen to. Other than the 4-5 songs that I love on each record Binaural and Riot Act feel like work.
That's just lazy. Your like of backspacer makes sense now. It's caused by laziness

I have a 2yo, so you cant just say its the new baby.
What a lazy argument. Sunbathing by the pool is "lazy" compared to climbing a rock face.
well, to be fair, sunbathing by the pool is lazy compared to most things...
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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McParadigm wrote:There's so much "most stip posts" fodder going on right now.
that thread's not going to fill itself
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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McParadigm wrote:
hlniv wrote:
ishot_JFK wrote:
hlniv wrote:
Walker Bait wrote:I'm gonna say it...I think I'm going to enjoy this album more out of the gate than any since.... Vitalogy....yep I said it, so what! I hated No Code (at first) Yield was another change from that which took some getting used to though I enjoyed it. Binaural was dark and a grower, Riot Act was a grower, ST and Backspacer....I enjoyed but never reached the point of the prior records with me. What I've heard so far from Lightning Bolt has me litterally dancing around drinking whiskey and clapping my fucking hands....CLAPPING MY HANDS!!! WTF?!..I'm not one to normally do that....ever. lol
This

At least the whiskey part. The rest is hard to digest because of that.

But really, this. I am finding myself thinking the same
This?*

2 PARTS Rye Whiskey
1 PART St-Germain
¾ PART Freshly Squeezed Lime Juice
TOP WITH Ginger Beer
2 DASHES Angostura Bitters

METHOD: Shake first three ingredients in an ice filled shaker and strain into an ice filled Collins glass. Top with Ginger beer & 2 dashes of Angostura bitters to garnish.

*also goes good with a "big sandwich"*
No. This.

1 glass
4 ice cubes
Fill glass with woodford reserve

Some people make shit so complicated
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Hard alcohols are for sipping, not mixing.
Some are for sipping. Some are for sterilizing wounds. In fact, most are only good for sterilizing wounds. Really only good bourbons, and great tequilas, are good for sipping.

There is no in between

And swallowed whole>getaway> the rest of LB we've heard. Just to stay on topic
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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You know what else is lazy? Telling somebody ELSE to "getthisoffamyplate."

What is this guy, six?
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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McParadigm wrote:
harmless wrote:
hlniv wrote:
stip wrote:the thing about songs with more prominent hooks and melodies is that even if they aren't my favorites they won't feel like work to listen to, and a lot of the other 3 star songs in the catalog just get skipped after a while because, unless I haven't heard it in a while and want to revisit it, it kinda feels like work to listen and that's time I could be listening to something else.

If Pearl Jam writes a great song I'd probably (usually) rather it be a bit darker and serious, or have the dramatic cathartic sweep that something like lightning bolt has (if you had told me after the first time I heard the wrigley version I would be in love with the studio track I never would have believed you), because the extra gravity elevates the song. So I am still expecting/hoping that something like Pendulum or Infallible will be my favorite song on the record. But if it's going to be one of the 'pretty good' songs that I put towards the bottom of an album I'd rather they sound like this.

I think Backspacer has a bunch of really strong songs (GSMF and Force of Nature are my favorites) but what is so appealing about that record is that really nothing is a chore to listen to. Other than the 4-5 songs that I love on each record Binaural and Riot Act feel like work.
That's just lazy. Your like of backspacer makes sense now. It's caused by laziness

I have a 2yo, so you cant just say its the new baby.
What a lazy argument. Sunbathing by the pool is "lazy" compared to climbing a rock face.
What a lazy rebuttal.
What a lazy rebuttal criticism.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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hlniv wrote:Some are for sipping. Some are for sterilizing wounds. In fact, most are only good for sterilizing wounds. Really only good bourbons, and great tequilas, are good for sipping.

There is no in between

And swallowed whole>getaway> the rest of LB we've heard. Just to stay on topic
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harmless wrote:Quick, someone collate it!
I thought about creating a L-bolt thread greatest hits thread. I was about 50 pages into the thread when I realized I had missed 'harmless' first post in the thread', which I figured was something we should have preserved. Then I decided 'to hell with it' and gave up.

Then I put on Backspacer
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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McParadigm wrote:You know what else is lazy? Telling somebody ELSE to "getthisoffamyplate."

What is this guy, six?
What the hell is wrong with that line? Should he be saying "Fuck off before I stab your eyeballs with a spade?"
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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harmless wrote:
Mirella wrote:
harmless wrote:
Mirella wrote:What I miss in this discussion is how the fade-outs can be actually useful for this record. You will hear it when you have the whole album. Or not ;). I know the quality is different, but at least I really liked how Getaway got into Mind Your Manners, but even more, Lightning Bolt into Infallible. And people who dismiss Future Days in advance, should really wait to hear the studio version and how it is different. Same for Sleeping By Myself. I am *so* looking forward to seeing the reactions that that one! :lol:

groetjes,
Mirella :)
There is allegedly a missing track from this leak... Is that Infallible? A track begins as one ends.
I saw someone write missing one was MYM on that 5 song promo, which would make sense if it is for the MLB.

groetjes,
Mirella :)
Hmm... it doesn't start with the same abruptness, sounds more like a rising atmospheric thing. But it's only on for two seconds. Were there any instrumental connectors between these songs?
Yes, but that only makes sense on the album where Infallible is the next track. What you hear at the end is like an intro to Infallible. I think they just picked the songs for the promo without bothering about how they would sound after each other.

groetjes,
Mirella :)
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well, that would have been unexpected
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Mirella wrote:
harmless wrote:
Mirella wrote:
harmless wrote:
Mirella wrote:What I miss in this discussion is how the fade-outs can be actually useful for this record. You will hear it when you have the whole album. Or not ;). I know the quality is different, but at least I really liked how Getaway got into Mind Your Manners, but even more, Lightning Bolt into Infallible. And people who dismiss Future Days in advance, should really wait to hear the studio version and how it is different. Same for Sleeping By Myself. I am *so* looking forward to seeing the reactions that that one! :lol:

groetjes,
Mirella :)
There is allegedly a missing track from this leak... Is that Infallible? A track begins as one ends.
I saw someone write missing one was MYM on that 5 song promo, which would make sense if it is for the MLB.

groetjes,
Mirella :)
Hmm... it doesn't start with the same abruptness, sounds more like a rising atmospheric thing. But it's only on for two seconds. Were there any instrumental connectors between these songs?
Yes, but that only makes sense on the album where Infallible is the next track. What you hear at the end is like an intro to Infallible. I think they just picked the songs for the promo without bothering about how they would sound after each other.

groetjes,
Mirella :)
Ah, OK I see what you mean. Thanks.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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harmless wrote:
McParadigm wrote:You know what else is lazy? Telling somebody ELSE to "getthisoffamyplate."

What is this guy, six?
What the hell is wrong with that line? Should he be saying "Fuck you before I stab your eyeballs with a spade?"
He just needs to lead in to it by petulantly shouting "DADDDDDYYYYYYYY"

And then maybe fit the word "broccoli" in after "this."

But maybe I'm just thinkin' with my different brain
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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harmless wrote:
hlniv wrote:
stip wrote:the thing about songs with more prominent hooks and melodies is that even if they aren't my favorites they won't feel like work to listen to, and a lot of the other 3 star songs in the catalog just get skipped after a while because, unless I haven't heard it in a while and want to revisit it, it kinda feels like work to listen and that's time I could be listening to something else.

If Pearl Jam writes a great song I'd probably (usually) rather it be a bit darker and serious, or have the dramatic cathartic sweep that something like lightning bolt has (if you had told me after the first time I heard the wrigley version I would be in love with the studio track I never would have believed you), because the extra gravity elevates the song. So I am still expecting/hoping that something like Pendulum or Infallible will be my favorite song on the record. But if it's going to be one of the 'pretty good' songs that I put towards the bottom of an album I'd rather they sound like this.

I think Backspacer has a bunch of really strong songs (GSMF and Force of Nature are my favorites) but what is so appealing about that record is that really nothing is a chore to listen to. Other than the 4-5 songs that I love on each record Binaural and Riot Act feel like work.
That's just lazy. Your like of backspacer makes sense now. It's caused by laziness

I have a 2yo, so you cant just say its the new baby.
What a lazy argument. Sunbathing by the pool is "lazy" compared to climbing a rock face.
Yep. You are correct. Sunbathing is quite lazy, and this was a lazy argument. Can't argue with you there

Guess I should have included the LOL tag that the kids do these days
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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hlniv wrote:
stip wrote:the thing about songs with more prominent hooks and melodies is that even if they aren't my favorites they won't feel like work to listen to, and a lot of the other 3 star songs in the catalog just get skipped after a while because, unless I haven't heard it in a while and want to revisit it, it kinda feels like work to listen and that's time I could be listening to something else.

If Pearl Jam writes a great song I'd probably (usually) rather it be a bit darker and serious, or have the dramatic cathartic sweep that something like lightning bolt has (if you had told me after the first time I heard the wrigley version I would be in love with the studio track I never would have believed you), because the extra gravity elevates the song. So I am still expecting/hoping that something like Pendulum or Infallible will be my favorite song on the record. But if it's going to be one of the 'pretty good' songs that I put towards the bottom of an album I'd rather they sound like this.

I think Backspacer has a bunch of really strong songs (GSMF and Force of Nature are my favorites) but what is so appealing about that record is that really nothing is a chore to listen to. Other than the 4-5 songs that I love on each record Binaural and Riot Act feel like work.
That's just lazy. Your like of backspacer makes sense now. It's caused by laziness

I have a 2yo, so you cant just say its the new baby.
There's nothing lazy about it, it's just a matter of taste.

Really the big dividing line in Pearl Jams fans seems to be people who love Ten/Vs against people who love Binaural/Riot Act. Unfortunately for me I fall into the Binaural/Riot act group and haven't been all that pleased with their post-RA output, but that doesn't mean it's bad. I'm happy for the people that really enjoy the newer material and can see why they like most of it, it's just not my thing.

If anything I'm envious of them - I really wish I liked it. Pearl Jam have been a huge part of my life and it is sad and disappointing to see them go in a direction I don't care for, which I think is why you see such strong opinions from people who don't like the newer stuff.
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McParadigm wrote:
hlniv wrote:Some are for sipping. Some are for sterilizing wounds. In fact, most are only good for sterilizing wounds. Really only good bourbons, and great tequilas, are good for sipping.

There is no in between

And swallowed whole>getaway> the rest of LB we've heard. Just to stay on topic
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McParadigm wrote:
harmless wrote:
McParadigm wrote:You know what else is lazy? Telling somebody ELSE to "getthisoffamyplate."

What is this guy, six?
What the hell is wrong with that line? Should he be saying "Fuck you before I stab your eyeballs with a spade?"
He just needs to lead in to it by petulantly shouting "DADDDDDYYYYYYYY"

And then maybe fit the word "broccoli" in after "this."

But maybe I'm just thinkin' with my different brain
Or 'Waiter', or dinner party host. He's not lazy if he's being served something and it's fucking disgusting.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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McParadigm wrote:
harmless wrote:
McParadigm wrote:You know what else is lazy? Telling somebody ELSE to "getthisoffamyplate."

What is this guy, six?
What the hell is wrong with that line? Should he be saying "Fuck you before I stab your eyeballs with a spade?"
He just needs to lead in to it by petulantly shouting "DADDDDDYYYYYYYY"

And then maybe fit the word "broccoli" in after "this."

But maybe I'm just thinkin' with my different brain
Double post... I wish this didn't happen here so often. It's a bug.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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hlniv wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
hlniv wrote:Some are for sipping. Some are for sterilizing wounds. In fact, most are only good for sterilizing wounds. Really only good bourbons, and great tequilas, are good for sipping.

There is no in between

And swallowed whole>getaway> the rest of LB we've heard. Just to stay on topic
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red rover red rover send bourbon on over
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harmless wrote:Double post... I wish this didn't happen here so often. It's a bug.
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