Lightning Bolt: the official album thread

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5 stars
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1%
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5%
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29
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30
38%
1 star
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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dimejinky99 wrote:That's a bit scary. Pink floyd is the most ego bloated pompous music possibly ever. Can't stand them. Hope it's not too noticeable if Pj have gone there.
Though these songs seem to have been crafted like Townshend/REM/Springsteen and done well so they will probably nail the PF vibe too.

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I quite like the Floyd but I don't want a blatant rip off. 'Nothing As it Seems' (great) and 'Inside Job' (awful) are close enough to Floyd for me. They'll get closer to the Floyd 'vibe' with BOB's production, no doubt.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Lounge Lizard wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:That's a bit scary. Pink floyd is the most ego bloated pompous music possibly ever. Can't stand them. Hope it's not too noticeable if Pj have gone there.
Though these songs seem to have been crafted like Townshend/REM/Springsteen and done well so they will probably nail the PF vibe too.

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I'm completely unafraid od a song sounding like PF.
It's those other ones that scare me shitless
Why?
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harmless wrote:Caleb Followill said about the new song "Don't Matter" that it was inspired by QOTSA. It made me cringe to hear him deliberately compare the song to another band, but mostly I was cringing because PJ do that all the time and it's really horrible. You don't give away your secrets like that...
I tend to dislike when musicians do that. "We were trying to write a song in the vein of..." . 10+ points for candidness I guess, but -15 points for pulling the curtain back and demystifying the process.
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harmless wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:That's a bit scary. Pink floyd is the most ego bloated pompous music possibly ever. Can't stand them. Hope it's not too noticeable if Pj have gone there.
Though these songs seem to have been crafted like Townshend/REM/Springsteen and done well so they will probably nail the PF vibe too.

Bugger
I'm completely unafraid od a song sounding like PF.
It's those other ones that scare me shitless
Why?
Why "Why"? You just said u liked PF too
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theplatypus wrote:
harmless wrote:Caleb Followill said about the new song "Don't Matter" that it was inspired by QOTSA. It made me cringe to hear him deliberately compare the song to another band, but mostly I was cringing because PJ do that all the time and it's really horrible. You don't give away your secrets like that...
I tend to dislike when musicians do that. "We were trying to write a song in the vein of..." . 10+ points for candidness I guess, but -15 points for pulling the curtain back and demystifying the process.
Absolutely. PJ are the kings of this demystification and I'm sure nearly everything would've been less embarrassing and anger-inducing if they weren't.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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PJ never really had the confidence to just admit they sounded like PJ.
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How come no one's utilised the "thinking with our different brains" meme yet?
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harmless wrote:PJ never really had the confidence to just admit they sounded like PJ.
They did.
But then someone added something about alienating people.
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harmless wrote:How come no one's utilised the "thinking with our different brains" meme yet?
I'm so lazy today
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Lounge Lizard wrote:
harmless wrote:PJ never really had the confidence to just admit they sounded like PJ.
They did.
But then someone added something about alienating people.
Na, Eddie was banging on about The Who / Roger Daltrey / Neil Young / Floyd, etc. and Mike was singing the praises of KISS, Deep Purple, Motorhead, long before BO'B's influence overtook. Ed just struggled with any confidence to see himself as a great musician. He was always deferring the reputation to someone else, like someone always handing over their achievements to God. Nothing's changed on that front. It used to be charming though.
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harmless wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:
harmless wrote:PJ never really had the confidence to just admit they sounded like PJ.
They did.
But then someone added something about alienating people.
Na, Eddie was banging on about The Who / Roger Daltrey / Neil Young / Floyd, etc. and Mike was singing the praises of KISS, Deep Purple, Motorhead, long before BO'B's influence overtook. Ed just struggled with any confidence to see himself as a great musician. He was always deferring the reputation to someone else, like someone always handing over their achievements to God. Nothing's changed on that front. It used to be charming though.
now it calls for a fish slap
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theplatypus wrote:
What kind of person is a fan of that kind of thing, Jorge?
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Lounge Lizard wrote:
harmless wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:
harmless wrote:PJ never really had the confidence to just admit they sounded like PJ.
They did.
But then someone added something about alienating people.
Na, Eddie was banging on about The Who / Roger Daltrey / Neil Young / Floyd, etc. and Mike was singing the praises of KISS, Deep Purple, Motorhead, long before BO'B's influence overtook. Ed just struggled with any confidence to see himself as a great musician. He was always deferring the reputation to someone else, like someone always handing over their achievements to God. Nothing's changed on that front. It used to be charming though.
now it calls for a fish slap
Yep. The only way they'll ever become the Great All-American Rock Band they want to (let's be honest, it's too late really) is by stamping out their own identity. Instead they ape the identities of others. So the songs remain sometimes very enjoyable but have an instant cap on their originality or impact.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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harmless wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:
harmless wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:
harmless wrote:PJ never really had the confidence to just admit they sounded like PJ.
They did.
But then someone added something about alienating people.
Na, Eddie was banging on about The Who / Roger Daltrey / Neil Young / Floyd, etc. and Mike was singing the praises of KISS, Deep Purple, Motorhead, long before BO'B's influence overtook. Ed just struggled with any confidence to see himself as a great musician. He was always deferring the reputation to someone else, like someone always handing over their achievements to God. Nothing's changed on that front. It used to be charming though.
now it calls for a fish slap
Yep. The only way they'll ever become the Great All-American Rock Band they want to (let's be honest, it's too late really) is by stamping out their own identity. Instead they ape the identities of others. So the songs remain sometimes very enjoyable but have an instant cap on their originality or impact.
Wait, wait... Didn't you contradict me on everything I said about needing an identity today or yesterday?
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Lounge Lizard wrote:
harmless wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:
harmless wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:
harmless wrote:PJ never really had the confidence to just admit they sounded like PJ.
They did.
But then someone added something about alienating people.
Na, Eddie was banging on about The Who / Roger Daltrey / Neil Young / Floyd, etc. and Mike was singing the praises of KISS, Deep Purple, Motorhead, long before BO'B's influence overtook. Ed just struggled with any confidence to see himself as a great musician. He was always deferring the reputation to someone else, like someone always handing over their achievements to God. Nothing's changed on that front. It used to be charming though.
now it calls for a fish slap
Yep. The only way they'll ever become the Great All-American Rock Band they want to (let's be honest, it's too late really) is by stamping out their own identity. Instead they ape the identities of others. So the songs remain sometimes very enjoyable but have an instant cap on their originality or impact.
Wait, wait... Didn't you contradict me on everything I said about needing an identity today or yesterday?
I don't think so. I think I just contradicted your implication that it made PJ any more rubbish now than it always did. The only thing that's changed is that they're older and have slightly more conservative tastes now. They were always filthy rip off merchants and their flirtation with originality was just that.
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PJ don't need an identity now any more or less than they always did.
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harmless wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:
harmless wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:
harmless wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:
harmless wrote:PJ never really had the confidence to just admit they sounded like PJ.
They did.
But then someone added something about alienating people.
Na, Eddie was banging on about The Who / Roger Daltrey / Neil Young / Floyd, etc. and Mike was singing the praises of KISS, Deep Purple, Motorhead, long before BO'B's influence overtook. Ed just struggled with any confidence to see himself as a great musician. He was always deferring the reputation to someone else, like someone always handing over their achievements to God. Nothing's changed on that front. It used to be charming though.
now it calls for a fish slap
Yep. The only way they'll ever become the Great All-American Rock Band they want to (let's be honest, it's too late really) is by stamping out their own identity. Instead they ape the identities of others. So the songs remain sometimes very enjoyable but have an instant cap on their originality or impact.
Wait, wait... Didn't you contradict me on everything I said about needing an identity today or yesterday?
I don't think so. I think I just contradicted your implication that it made PJ any more rubbish now than it always did. The only thing that's changed is that they're older and have slightly more conservative tastes now. They were always filthy rip off merchants and their flirtation with originality was just that.
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harmless wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
What kind of person is a fan of that kind of thing, Jorge?
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Lounge Lizard wrote:
harmless wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:
harmless wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:
harmless wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:
harmless wrote:PJ never really had the confidence to just admit they sounded like PJ.
They did.
But then someone added something about alienating people.
Na, Eddie was banging on about The Who / Roger Daltrey / Neil Young / Floyd, etc. and Mike was singing the praises of KISS, Deep Purple, Motorhead, long before BO'B's influence overtook. Ed just struggled with any confidence to see himself as a great musician. He was always deferring the reputation to someone else, like someone always handing over their achievements to God. Nothing's changed on that front. It used to be charming though.
now it calls for a fish slap
Yep. The only way they'll ever become the Great All-American Rock Band they want to (let's be honest, it's too late really) is by stamping out their own identity. Instead they ape the identities of others. So the songs remain sometimes very enjoyable but have an instant cap on their originality or impact.
Wait, wait... Didn't you contradict me on everything I said about needing an identity today or yesterday?
I don't think so. I think I just contradicted your implication that it made PJ any more rubbish now than it always did. The only thing that's changed is that they're older and have slightly more conservative tastes now. They were always filthy rip off merchants and their flirtation with originality was just that.
u are exceptionally cruel tonight
I'm just tellin' it like it is, brah.

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