Lightning Bolt: the official album thread

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Rank Lightning Bolt

5 stars
1
1%
4 stars
4
5%
3 stars
29
37%
2 stars
30
38%
1 star
14
18%
 
Total votes: 78

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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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ABNorman wrote:
harmless wrote:People need to stop equating "poppy" with "bad" just because they're embarrassed by the word "pop". That's juvenile. When I say "poppy" I don't mean Britney Spears, I mean something with a generally broader, more commercial appeal. Do you think "pop music" only started when they invented computers? The Beatles were a pop band.
"Toxic" is a cracker of a song.
I really love all of that shit; I'm just using it for argument's sake. So is the one with Will.I.Am.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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A majority of Pearl Jam music has been pretty damn poppy.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Thejambi wrote:Toxic is all right in my book.
Honestly, that's an amazingly produced album. I've listened to it way too much.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Some observations after a weekend of listening.


These songs are GROWERS. The last 2 albums have been great on first listen for me and then their appeal has reduced. Historically, PJ albums that have been the most rewarding have been the ones that have taken time to get into. I was a bit apathetic about these 4 songs on Friday, I'm not now. This is a very good sign.

Getaway and Swallowed Whole are amazing songs.

They are trying too hard with LTRP. It sounds like they've copied The Black Keys sound and added a mincy chorus. I still like it though I feel this should be B Side material.

Lightning Bolt is better on record, love the instrumentals. Ed's trying to overdo it near the end and it don't sound pretty.

Ja Ja Drown, Drown Drown... Is my favourite part of the album so far.

Mike is sounding great on everything.

Unfortunately, Ed's vocals and lyrics may now be the weakest part of the band.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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harmless wrote:People need to stop equating "poppy" with "bad" just because they're embarrassed by the word "pop". That's juvenile. When I say "poppy" I don't mean Britney Spears, I mean something with a generally broader, more commercial appeal. Do you think "pop music" only started when they invented computers? The Beatles were a pop band.
By people, do you mean keeponjammin89? Who else is doing this?
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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CupidStunt wrote:It sounds like they've copied The Black Keys sound and added a mincy chorus.
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Glam.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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McParadigm wrote:
harmless wrote:People need to stop equating "poppy" with "bad" just because they're embarrassed by the word "pop". That's juvenile. When I say "poppy" I don't mean Britney Spears, I mean something with a generally broader, more commercial appeal. Do you think "pop music" only started when they invented computers? The Beatles were a pop band.
By people, do you mean keeponjammin89? Who else is doing this?
It seems to be a pejorative term around here.
see Brendan O' Brien conversations.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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harmless wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:Everyone has missed the different brains joke.

How do we know god is a woman?
Gave man two brains but only enough blood to run one at a time.

That's what I took him to be saying.
Also, I feel there's a parallel between the "different brains" (speaking of gender) and "making love like the lizards", because some lizards (like the Mourning Gecko) are "parthenogenetic", meaning they can change sex and fertilise their own eggs. So, sex and gender, maybe Ed is alluding to the several genders humans in fact have, and also the fact that the"male" and "female" binary is inessential for love to take place.

And Kevin Davis needs to consider this stuff too.
Hey, anything to get more of those lizards into the mix.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Thejambi wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
harmless wrote:People need to stop equating "poppy" with "bad" just because they're embarrassed by the word "pop". That's juvenile. When I say "poppy" I don't mean Britney Spears, I mean something with a generally broader, more commercial appeal. Do you think "pop music" only started when they invented computers? The Beatles were a pop band.
By people, do you mean keeponjammin89? Who else is doing this?
It seems to be a pejorative term around here.
see Brendan O' Brien conversations.
Somebody whose username I can't remember (the people who are down on this material are just blurring into one for me) insisted that he wouldn't classify anything here as "pop" because it didn't sound like Michael Jackson. There are people around here who are literally offended by the idea that PJ should be allowed to play pop music.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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What does pop even mean? Everyone has their own definition.

Absolutely everything PJ have ever put out could be bundled into a a large box labelled "pop".
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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harmless wrote:(the people who are down on this material are just blurring into one for me)
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Yup, and a classical music aficionado would do.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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McParadigm wrote:
harmless wrote:(the people who are down on this material are just blurring into one for me)
:wave:

The people down on this material
Are just blurring into one for me,
And his name is McP.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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What is wrong with just calling it rock? It does not always have to be loud to still fit into the genre. The Beatles were a rock band too, in my opinion. With many great pop songs. Or just call it 'music' ;).

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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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I just dont feel that this album is gonna turn out any different then any other album commercial wise.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Yup. Plus Ten was very popular so that is automatically PJ's poppiest album. :D
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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All these terms are interchangeable, that's my point really.

No Pearl Jam album is going to blow up now because the music mainstream culture won't elevate it up there. I don't know if BO'B realises this :lol:
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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harmless wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
harmless wrote:(the people who are down on this material are just blurring into one for me)
:wave:

The people down on this material
Are just blurring into one for me,
And his name is McP.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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McParadigm wrote:
harmless wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
harmless wrote:(the people who are down on this material are just blurring into one for me)
:wave:

The people down on this material
Are just blurring into one for me,
And his name is McP.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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I'll be the first to admit when i use poppy in a derogatory manner im using it to mean bland, light, vaguley uplifting and clean and shiny. Or lasers. I know its wrong, but im lazy and unarticulate so y'all gonna have to deal.
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